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    Trying to divide up the definition of "pop stars" into different sub-segments of pop stardom doesn't change my opinion at all that he's a weird substitution if GV was pop conscious.

    You can make the same arguments about Beyonce and being borderline R&B at times, that make her even closer to The Weeknd than JT.

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    The other question is who he would've been replacing. I recall reading that Eminem was a late booking; who knows when they booked The Weeknd. Justin + Beyonce might not've been any more overload than Beyonce + Weeknd (you could make the counter argument that Bey + Weekend are both R&B oriented pop and thus more similar than Justin/Beyonce). Beyonce + Weeknd + Justin would've absolutely been overload. And if you have the choice of those three, you're splitting up Justin & Beyonce, simply because those are megaheadliners on a scale The Weeknd isn't.

    Ultimately though who knows. Could be they had Justin booked, Beyonce had to delay, and Justin offered to bounce back a year (to give her the spotlight? to focus the spotlight on himself? because he just wanted to play Coachella and didn't care when?). Who knows.

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    I don’t think he was ever considered to be a replacement for Beyoncé. Paul had made it very clear that it was always going to have been female. That said, I 100% think he was booked for last year and simply agreed to delay it a year. If you ask me it’s a win for everybody. Timberlake will be a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver06 View Post
    So the only thing that makes sense to me is #2, saving him to be "the main attraction" at Coachella 2019. If that's so, it would probably be the most disappointing "main attraction" for a Coachella weekend since 2013. Definitely wouldn't get the buzz of Beyonce's 2018 comeback, Gaga's 2017 scrambled replacement, GnR's reunion in 2016, or Outkast's in 2014. AC/DC's 2015 comeback was more interesting in my eyes than Timberlake ending a tour for a mediocre album.
    Agreed. Even 2013 and Blur/Stone Roses, which obviously wasn't a huge draw but was still newsworthy.

    I'm holding out hope he's not the "main attraction" and will be more of an Eminem to someone else's Beyonce next year. We'll see I guess.

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    IIRC, there was a specific recent year he wasn’t available and I want to say it was actually 2018 but I might be wrong on that. If so, Beyoncé bump or not, he may not have been in play for 2018 at all despite how his tour dates turned out. It’s possible he wanted to do the Man of the Woods tour and Coachella wanted a unique set so he said no for 2018 but that’s just me guessing.

    Also, no way is Katy Perry or P!nk on JT’s level. Taylor Swift is close but JT is a bigger cultural icon and has a more established media presence IMO.

    Oh and Launchpad on Inforoo said no Stones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo View Post
    Oh and Launchpad on Inforoo said no Stones.
    Where did The Rolling Stones rumor come from? They used to be a yearly rumor until Desert Trip happened. Why do so many people seem to think they're in play for 2019?

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    I’ve sort of assumed it’s a “they played DT, there aren’t many of those kinds of classic rock acts left that haven’t played, and they’re not gonna be around much longer, so they’ve gotta play one of these years” rumor. No basis in reality necessarily.

    That said, didn’t Launchpad have one of the headliners wrong last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coachella Bound View Post
    I don’t think he was ever considered to be a replacement for Beyoncé. Paul had made it very clear that it was always going to have been female. That said, I 100% think he was booked for last year and simply agreed to delay it a year. If you ask me it’s a win for everybody. Timberlake will be a blast.
    That is not true. PT said they weren’t specifically looking for the replacement to be female. It just happened.

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    Kind of insane to think how powerful this thread is.
    I miss talking to TomAz.

    We all do. I live in the same city as him (unless he relocated) and rumor has it that at 3:15am if you listen closely and its really really quiet you can hear him telling you to go fuck yourself.

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    If I say Catherine Wheel are coming enough does that make it truth?
    I miss talking to TomAz.

    We all do. I live in the same city as him (unless he relocated) and rumor has it that at 3:15am if you listen closely and its really really quiet you can hear him telling you to go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver06 View Post
    You can make the same arguments about Beyonce and being borderline R&B at times, that make her even closer to The Weeknd than JT.
    Yes that's literally what I'm saying. Beyonce and The Weeknd were already close enough last year (although such "closeness" would have been avoided if '17 went as planned), no need to add any more "closeness" by booking JT. Which is why pushing him to '19 makes sense if he was considered last year. Any combination with 2/3 names is manageable, but 3/3 is too much.

    Were all just speculating at this point. But I think the mere fact that we have discussed many "plausible" options for how this went down, supports the theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo View Post

    Also, no way is Katy Perry or P!nk on JT’s level. Taylor Swift is close but JT is a bigger cultural icon and has a more established media presence IMO.
    Of all the pop/female acts that have been discussed as headliners, Katy probably moves the needle the least at this point. Probably still an acceptable headliner nonetheless but I don't see it happening this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyTheLongFace View Post
    That is not true. PT said they weren’t specifically looking for the replacement to be female. It just happened.
    https://www.billboard.com/articles/b...n-inside-story

    Its been confirmed that it wasn't mandated, but still extremely important.

    It was important to AEG that Beyoncé be replaced by a female singer, sources tell Billboard, and after some consideration and inquiries about both Adele and Gaga, Coachella founder Paul Tollett rang up Creative Artists Agency and booked Gaga for the top slot.

    Part of the reason for the choice was history. While Coachella regularly features female acts, Gaga will be the first woman to headline the festival in a decade, and only the second ever. (Björk topped the bill in 2002 and 2007.) That's an important factor for the kind of cultural event the festival has become, spanning two three-day weekends with five stages and dozens of public art installations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo View Post

    Also, no way is Katy Perry on JT’s level.

    You're right. She has 9 #1 songs in the last 10 years, and he's had 1.
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    It's hard to argue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroir Noir View Post
    You're right. She has 9 #1 songs in the last 10 years, and he's had 1.
    With that logic, she’s bigger than Beyoncé!
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    She also has more Twitter followers than anyone on earth, is currently being paid $25 million to judge on a top ten rated TV show, and has performed Super Bowl halftime and every other cultural event imaginable.

    But please feel free to move the goalposts to something else.
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    It's hard to argue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroir Noir View Post
    She also has more Twitter followers than anyone on earth, is currently being paid $25 million to judge on a top ten rated TV show, and has performed Super Bowl halftime and every other cultural event imaginable.

    But please feel free to move the goalposts to something else.
    She's undeniably bigger than pretty much every other pop star we've thrown out as a possible headliner but her music is also pretty shallow compared to a Rihanna or a JT so people don't want to admit it.

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    If that's the argument -- "her music is not as good to me, music geek, as other pop music is" -- then people should say so. But it's transparently false to say that Katy Perry is less popular or "culturally relevant" than Beyonce or Justin Timberlake.
    Quote Originally Posted by canexplain View Post
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    It's hard to argue with that.

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    I'd support Katy.
    I miss talking to TomAz.

    We all do. I live in the same city as him (unless he relocated) and rumor has it that at 3:15am if you listen closely and its really really quiet you can hear him telling you to go fuck yourself.

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    Even though her videos are somewhat satanic.
    I miss talking to TomAz.

    We all do. I live in the same city as him (unless he relocated) and rumor has it that at 3:15am if you listen closely and its really really quiet you can hear him telling you to go fuck yourself.

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    There is zero chance of Katy Perry ever headlining this festival.

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    Didn't Katy Perry's last album flop? (Commercially and critically)
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    I don't know or care if she'd headline fucking Coachella. I was only responding to the "no way is she on JT's level" claim.
    Quote Originally Posted by canexplain View Post
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    It's hard to argue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyTheLongFace View Post
    Didn't Katy Perry's last album flop? (Commercially and critically)
    Almost as bigly as JT's did.
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    It's hard to argue with that.

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    I think we could simplify this argument by just creating a caliber of artist that are big enough to do the halftime show. Most, if not all, of those artists could headline Coachella.

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    Chiming in to add that the idea that Taylor Swift is not on JT's level is also dumb.

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    Taylor Swift also has Satanic videos.
    I miss talking to TomAz.

    We all do. I live in the same city as him (unless he relocated) and rumor has it that at 3:15am if you listen closely and its really really quiet you can hear him telling you to go fuck yourself.

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    Katy and JT taking such big Ls makes me think neither happen until their comeback albums

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coachella Bound View Post
    I think we could simplify this argument by just creating a caliber of artist that are big enough to do the halftime show. Most, if not all, of those artists could headline Coachella.
    Yup. Definitively yup.

    Doesn't mean any/all of them WILL, but anyone who did the Super Bowl is absolutely able to put on a headliner-caliber show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slinkybutt View Post
    Katy and JT taking such big Ls makes me think neither happen until their comeback albums
    Yeah, I think it's a really odd play for GV to have him next year, when everyone who is interested in him, saw him, and the album bombed. If he pushed back voluntarily, I'd imagine they'd have outs in the contract to just cancel him, but maybe they really have admitted the "best headliners" are pop stars.

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