can we get back to trashing lana's fans?
UNDERWORLD - 2015 - THE PRODIGY
OK Tuscon, care to supply any evidence? My argument at least comes with supporting information not solely opinion or conjecture.
Telling me "everyone disagrees with you" is pointless, lots of people agreed with Hitler, doesn't make them right.
The fact that you have to hold on to your position as the only possible proper evaluation of a situation is obtuse, small minded and arrogant. People have critiqued art throughout history with credible critics having wildly different views on a artists.
Living in a world of single right and wrong is rather boring and frankly makes arguing with you a pointless effort.
You have a bias based on your opinion. I only formed my opinion after viewing the performance live and judging it based solely on its merit. If your argument is that Lorde has the pipes to sing on her own without the production tricks, than provide evidence supporting that.
And, I appreciate the compliment Drewski
I mean you post a list of rules that every artist must follow or you don't like them, and then you call someone else small-minded? How fucking stupid is that? Real fucking stupid. Go fuck yourself.
Pile on. The scotch smells wonderful and I'm ready.
If I gave a shit what people on forums thought of me I'd have killed myself long ago. If you micro penis really bothers you that much why dont you go to the doctor and have it looked at.
The fact is that we are all a bunch of keyboard cowboys taking out our sexual frustrations by pounding our chests.
You don't know me. Now you're just projecting. You're pathetic.
2) Lorde's voice was only helped by the backing tracks in choruses. It was only "assisted" during parts of the song where more than one voice is utlized. Throughout the entirety of her set, when she sang the individual verses, it was pretty close to spectacular. She sang most of her set without any sort of assistance whatsoever and was on key with a powerful voice and delivery that allowed her voice to project well. I don't get why the focus of your criticism is regarding the "assistance" she received in sparse portions of her set when she was able to perform with nothing more than her voice, a backing band and her ridiculous seizure-like dance moves.
Saying "Lots of people agreed with Hitler" is quite possibly the dumbest reference you could make in this situation. Comparing a festival performance with one of the most vile men in the history of the world is not only a stretch, but completely off base. You are literally the first person I have spoken with who has the opinion you have about Lorde's performance. You continue say "Lorde doesn't have the pipes" and say that's your "evidence" to your claim.
You stated, "My argument at least comes with supporting information not solely opinion or conjecture," but saying a vocalist -- who clearly has a strong voice -- doesn't have the pipes to put forth a strong performance is clearly both opinion and conjecture.
Yes Tom, I am dumb as fuck, thank you for pointing that out. I should have known by all the mouth breathing but sometimes I'm slow, as you can probably understsand.
I have bad taste because I think Lorde cant produce a live performance in line with her studio material and should focus on producing a live performance of equal merit vs trying to replicate something that clearly has some studio / engineer effort to produce?
OK, sounds reasonable...
My PREFERENCES are my PREFERENCES. They have to do with me personally and what I believe denotes quality music. The same is the case in visual art, etc. I have a feel that is based off of certain criteria. They dont have to be your criteria or the only criteria, they are mine. If they dont work for you, then so be it, I'm not trying to convert you. You can believe that an artist can be evaluated under different guidelines and I'm ok with that. You and others however seem to love the idea of calling people dipshits if they have their own criteria and that someone disagrees with yours. Jesus, do you even lift?
The point is that complete agreement doesn't constitute fact or truth. There is plenty of of situational bias here, likely on both sides.
I came in unclear if Lorde could reproduce the same strong sound from the album in a live environment. I walked it looking to critique the set and answer my own questions.
Using Tennis Court as a point of evaluation I thought it was weak. I thought she really started to let the track take over, even in the verses, later in the song and the chorus' were all weak in my opinion. There is something to be said for using it as a back up and something entirely different to be said for acting as a backup to the track. Around the 11:00 mark in the above referenced video she clearly let the recording come first and dropped in some vocals with it. People attacked Andre 3000 for the same sort of half ass bullshit on WK1 and its no different here. No matter how much you want to like the girl and have situation bias because of it, that doesnt remove the fact when you review the track.
In your support, nearly every video I cant find anywhere of Royals is strong. She clearly is comfortable with that track. However, if you view the Letterman performance of Tennis Court she has the same issues (IMHO) and the fact may be that that particular song isnt easy to reproduce live because of the studio work done on the track.
Would you guys like to start taking cracks at my SAT scores, pigeon toedness, white trash upbringing or the fact that I was a complete dork in 2nd - 5th grade, come on, bring the insults.
Debating with you Is like arguing with a deaf, drunk retard.
While I hate to contribute to the thread getting off topic (Lana fans ARE terrible), I do have some Lorde opinions.
I watched Lorde's performance via feed weekend 1 and really enjoyed it (not really a fan of her recorded music), and I am very impressed by her stage presence and ambition. I think she still has a long way to go in terms of developing her delivery and performance, but SHE'S 17! What she's accomplished thus far is incredible for a teenager and I think she is really going to blossom artistically as she grows up and gains experience. She displays an incredible emotional and intellectual maturity that is at this time far more impressive than the actual music, so I look forward to seeing where she goes next.
Watching the feed, I did find myself wanting there to be real backup singers there with her, as this would go a long way to fleshing out her studio creations. More of a band would also be great, but I don't fault them for this right now because they really are just getting off the ground and I'm sure they will add a lot more to their live show in the coming years. You have to keep in mind that a year ago, people really didn't know who she was at all. Things have blown up for her in a massive way and that takes some getting used to. Regardless, I am proud of her for what she is doing. She is a very talented, driven young woman with a unique voice (both in terms of singing and what she wants to express) and I for one really want to see her succeed in the long-term.
I used to like this thread.
This ain't no middle of the mall shit.
You camped out in the LDR thread in order to have a debate about a different artists. Kudos on the performance art.
The point is that there is no point about debating LDR's lack of talent because its not debatable, its entirely factual.
Drew, thank you so much for the award.
Craig ONeil - Dumbest Piece of Shit to Date.
My mom said I would never amount to anything, so I cant wait to call her and rub her nose in this one.
This ain't no middle of the mall shit.