I like it.
I have been to concerts. I will go to concerts in the future.
You didn't like Saturday? FU, grisch.
Things like this are either going to make this problem worse, or a whole lot better. I'm betting on worse. I would imagine niche festivals will grow, but any across the board type festivals will suffer majorly.
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It's been bugging me for weeks, since this thread was started: The thread title is egregiously, annoyingly passive-aggressive. "Some say for the worse". Not "I say it's worse", not "These people say it's worse". No. "Some" say it's worse. Fucking coward bullshit.
Go fuck yourself, OP.
In some ways it's worse, in other ways it's better. If you have lots of money to spend, it's better.
Most of the changes they have made (sans lineup) have been for the better. Since you haven't been since 2009 I think there would be enough you are unfamiliar with (Car Camping, Camping activities, the terrace, craft beer gardens, Heineken House, Yuma Tent, the Do Lab's location and size) for it to feel somewhat new again. I personally loved the lineup this year and 2014 ended up being one of my most memorable and favorite years out of the 8 years I have attended. I was extremely concerned about how the whole experience would go for me given the fact that it was my wife's first year going, but it was awesome.
I have grown to accept what type of crowd it brings in and from what all you guys say about other festivals (whether it's DEMF, Glasto, dB, Primavera, etc.), it seems like running into large intolerable groups of people is inevidible at any festival. Crowd experience has been subjective the last few years anyway. This year's crowd was insufferably bad but I somehow managed to ignore it. If you can deal with how much the festival has grown in both attendance and space (as well as the lineup), I suggest making the trip back.
Blur, the Stone Roses, Grinderman, Johnny Marr, Jello Biafra, New Order, the Descendents, Violent Femmes, Franz Ferdinand, Spiritualized, Dropkick Murphys, the Selecter, NIck Cave, Dead Can Dance, Social Distortion, Dinosaur Jr., OMD, the Three O'Clock......and that's just Old-Chella!
Are you sure you meant 2013, Grich?
I agree with you totally..the festival isnt the same as when I first experienced it! Now you have everybody wanting to go to Coachella and people scalping tickets way high on craiglist and such..its gone completely mainstream and the crowd is different too! Most people dont know whos performing and give bad vibes off! I hope it will return to its true state in the future but for now I guess we have to live partying with bros lol
Come a long long, come a long long way
Nowadays people attend Coachella just to say they've been. The crowd is definitely filled with a lot if bad apples.
An honest discussion about how algunz has changed. Some say for the worse.
I think that's unanimous.
It's also ubiquitous.
| Sonic Mania 8/14 | Summer Sonic Tokyo 8/15 | Hostess Club w/ Thom Yorke's Tomorrow's Modern Boxes, Spiritualized, Jon Hopkins, Matthew Herbert, etc 8/15 | Danny Howells @ It'll Do 10/17
Come a long long, come a long long way
I have been attending Coachella for past 2 years. I have gone back and looked at all the lineups from every year and there was always something from each year that i liked. I grew up listening to the Pixies, Jesus Lizard, SuperChunk, Ministry, Violent Femmes, NIN, etc and i love going and hearing new music that is on the up and up and sounds good like: Mona, WHite Lies, Future Islands, and so on.I love MUsic and there will always be something for me at Coachella regardless of change, and even if i do not know any bands, i will research them and find some that i like. How awesome was it to have Motorhead rockin out? That now opens the door for bands like Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and so on. There may not be artists with the same names or labels as there were 10 years ago, however there is still a lot of great music to see without watching someone push a button, however you just have to dig a little to find it.
Overcrowding is the biggest downfall. Watching shows from far away or feeling like you can be crushed is the number one reason coachella is not what it once was. Small fests are now winning at this . Go to some small fests and I think you'll be surprised at how much better it makes the experience. If I'm going to a monster fest like Coachella it's only to get to watch shows at a discount. If I'm not getting a discount compared to what I'd get to see at standard venues it's honestly not really worth it anymore. I once believed in that festival "magic" and bringing us music fanatics was worth it. Now the average attendee doesn't even know anything besides the radio bands or the EDC DJs. Hanging out with these crowds is not enjoyable. Adding craft beer is great , but being in a nice venue with a full bar and superior sound watching a complete set from your favorite band is definitely a better show. Coachella is trying to hang on to its roots , but the almighty dollar has taken control. It has sold its soul for money , and corporations never go back from making more money. It WAS once better and that's just a fact. Adding 40000 idiots doesn't come without a cost. It is still a great event , it just isn't a 10/10 experience anymore. We used to like the Sahara . How many really go into the Yuma? Mainstage? Most of us are watching shows that wouldn't cost a lot. Is the 600 700 1000 were dropping really worth it. We could buy up to 50 shows with that cash.
In my eyes every Coachella has been different and to be honest, that's why I love it. There has always been ass-holes and there always will be at every concert. You just have to look out for them or stick your foot out as they push into an already packed crowd. But that's no big deal when it comes to deciding to attend Coachella. I plan my year around it. To me it's the best place to watch new acts that never come to Phoenix and old acts I've always wanted to see. I love the people watching and the chance to make new friends. If I use the links posted for all the acts it's easy to plan out a great time of music and dancing. It's simple to avoid acts I'm not interested in seeing since it's so hard to get to all they ones I want to see.
Yes Coachella has changed but I think of it as growing better every year. I see things running much smoother now compared to standing in line outside the gates for an hours in the heat waiting to get searched. Paying to much for water and crappy food vendors. Now we get in in a heart beat, eat good food and enjoy a great weekend away from all the problems of the world as long as it's planned it right.
It's an experience that never grows old, it's always well thought out by GV and gives me the opportunity to pass out a few free t-shirts I make each year along with laminated photo art from the previous year.
I missed 2004 due to a scheduling mistake on my part when the dates were announced 2 weeks later than the previous year. I had already purchased non refundable plane tickets and paid for 3 weeks in Amsterdam. A mistake I will never do again. I don't plan anything in April until I know the dates for Coachella.
So yes Coachella has changed, but for the better and that's all there is to it for me. No 2 years have ever been the same or it would be boring
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Dancing In The Desert and Loving Every Minute of Coachella!
Check out my Coachella pictures at Flickr.com under AJVaughn.com. Other art work there also!
There are multiple Coachella sets on Flickr.
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It's definitely changed. I went in 08 and 09 and went last year and am attending this year. I feel like the amount of people that suck has increased, but with that, i've honestly had a better time. Not because of the shit people but because now more of my friends can go and I love the group dynamic of it. We always seem to meet some cool people, ignore the shit ones and have a good time.
My first year was great but I think 2009 was probably my best - last year before car camping started and before 25,000 more of my closest friends showed up.
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