To be fair every year ppl say this is worst year yet. The first year I went was in 2010 and everyone was complaining that Jay-Z was a headliner and that a) he was too mainstream b) rappers can't put on good shows c)Coachella is ruined
Now that year is looked upon as a golden year, a few have said one of the best. Even last year's lineup got tons of complaints (Some justified) but most on here seem to look back at it fondly.
At the end of the day I think a lot of ppl get set up by their own expectations of who they want and if Coachella doesn't give them that then it sucks. I'd be lying if I said there wasn't ppl I was disappointed didn't make the lineup or that I'm 100% in love with all the picks. But there's so much great stuff on there and I know it'll be an amazing time. Plus Coachella can only do so many mind blowing reunions, there's only so many bands left that haven't reunited that would be exciting and not all of them want to. For me Outkast reuniting was mind blowing and super excited to see them.
At the end of the day if you're so disappointed in this lineup or even Coachella's lineups the last few years why are you on here still? You're welcome to criticize but why stay here if there's so many other festivals out there?
Major festival/promoters have turned into fucking record labels. They pretty much dictate on what people will be go out and listen to now. If you get billed on a festival list, consider yourself as "making it" because artist don't sell records anymore. Coachella has become a big business...nothing you can do about it except turn your head if you don't like it anymore.
I don't know what ppl want, to me the only real competition Coachella has in the US is Bonnaroo. Sasquatch also ways seems meh to me, the Governor's Ball is essentially a combination of ppl who were either at Coachella this year or last, Lollapalooza is WAY more mainstream (Ppl cried about RHCP but at least it wasn't Lady Gaga), Ultra seems even more recycled, Firefly sucks (Do ppl think that's a great lineup?) and Summerfest's lineup so far is a joke
What? A festival thats been going on for over a decade, and booking hundred of acts each year has a lot of repeats? How dare they!
Been every year since ’09 (very sorry I missed the earlier years) and I’ve loved the festival each time ('11 was the best overall for me so far, while ’12 was the least interesting to me music-wise, but I still had plenty of fun).
I get a lot of the criticism here, I do, but it seems to me I’ve heard bitching about the lineup like this every year I’ve gone.
Sure, I’d like to see, say, Fuck Buttons or Oneohtrix Point Never (love ‘em, haven’t caught either live yet) and hell yeah! Neil Young as a headliner (he’s been fantastic every time I’ve caught him live, and I think he’d be one of the best “old guard” headliners ever at Coachella, maybe the best) but because GV didn’t procure them doesn’t mean I’m not going to enjoy a ton of music at Coachella 2014 anyway.
YMMV, of course, and people have made some interesting bitch cases here (on a BITCH thread, duh) on why they’re disappointed.
I love a lot of today’s music (as more-or-less represented by the Coachella acts I’ve caught over the past years) though not stuff like Imagine Dragons or Nicky Minaj or Pitbull and the like. In my long experience good music today compares more than favorably with the “good old days” (no, I don’t actually think they were the “good old days” or the “golden years” of music or any such thing. I see them more as the “dawn time”).
Or maybe I’m like HotHamWater and I’m just easy to please.
I think you have every right to be excited. There is plenty on the lineup to be excited about. A lot of people tend to focus on things they don't like as opposed to what they do like. Either that or they have had numerous opportunities and dedicated lots of time to seeing these acts live. For me, someone whose free time comes in spurts, I don't have the capability (financially or physically) to fly to different cities and see live music. We get some good shows in Tucson, but the combined cost of seeing all these acts separately would far surpass what I spend at Coachella. Add to the fact that Tucson isn't exactly a Mecca for Techno or House music, so I don't get to see Cajmere, Art Department or Maceo Plex as often as someone that lives in, say, San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Detroit or Los Angeles.
I've been on these boards now for four years. Outkast, The Knife, The Replacements, Neko Case, Bonobo, The Afghan Whigs, Queens of the Stone Age, Pet Shop Boys, Beck, and Neutral Milk hotel are all acts that have either never played festival before or have gone at least a decade since last playing and every last one of those acts are ones that people have been clamoring for over the past several years. I'm personally not a fan of every last one of those acts, but there are about 6 or 7 that I really want to see. That's just the rare acts. That doesn't include other acts like Nas, Broken Bells, Ty Segall, CHVRCHES, Trombone Shorty, Lorde and numerous others I'm pretty excited to see.
What I find to be a little silly is the argument that the festival has drastically changed. I understand certain aspects have changed (car-camping, more people, ins and outs, no single day passes. etc.), but their approach to the lineup hasn't really changed as much as people want to tell themselves and especially not since they went to a three-day format in 2007. That was the year where everyone should have realized that repeats were going to increase dramatically. As much as the festival likes to cater to all sorts of demographics and love / have to sell 150,000 tickets, they aren't going after bands and artists that wouldn't fit (i.e., they haven't booked rock like Nickleback or Creed, "punk" like Blink 182 or utter shit like Linkin Park; even though all of those bands would move tickets fast.). Since they are limiting themselves (to an extent) with what they book, you are going to get a shitload of performers that have played the festival before when you have to book 140-170 acts to fill 5-6 stages for eight straight years.
I understand if people have moved on from the festival scene or at least festivals the size of Coachella, Bonnaroo, Glastonbury, etc. The notion of going just isn't as appealing as it once was. I was at that point myself for several years in my mid-20's. I just can't see this magical change in styles of lineup everyone else sees.
Go back to 2007. Three repeat headliners. Acts like Tiesto, KOL, Paul Van Dyk, Jack's Mannequin, Against Me!, Girl Talk, David Guetta. I mean, there are a lot of uninspired choices on that lineup. You can get the same thing going through any lineup. The key for me is finding 20-30 acts that I really enjoy to occupy my time with and I have never found that to be much of an issue.
What I see this year is a lineup with Outkast, Arcade Fire, Beck, Pet Shop Boys, Nas, Flume, Ty Segall, Trombone Shorty, Motorhead, CHVRCHES, Solange, Lorde, Bonobo, Blood Orange, The Jon Spence Bluers Explosion, Disclosure, Dixon, Cajmere, Littler Dragon, Classixx, Factory Floor... and that's just the tip of the iceberg for me. Because of all that, I am able to ignore Skrillex, Alesso, Zedd, Dillon Francis, Calvin Harris, Cage The Elephant or any other act / repeat I have no desire to see.
I also get to see lots of friends I rarely get to see at a beautiful venue with high level production.
Spend a little time researching the bands and you'll find worth within
I too was hoping for better headliners
Arcade Fire wasn't great the last time they were here....the hype was the bouncing balls they had...
Muse is good
OutKast - I hate rap ...so it'll never interest me
I found a lot of bands to make my 3 days full of fun....so I have nothing to complain about.
I love me some Coachella
Cage the Elephant is AWESOME!!!! I BECAME a fan of them at Coachella 2 years ago. They toured with Foo Fighters and just put out a new album. They are my #1 band on the poster for me this year.
I would have liked to seen Reignwolf back again at a much bigger spot...he's blowing the world up nuclear style. His popularity is going beyond amazingly fast....and it's well deserved. He's good enough that he could headline and everyone watching would be blown away. Bring Jordan Cook aka Reignwolf back. He's playing at Hangout fest.
As one sprite Roo attendee in an I <3 DUBSTEP screamed in my ear after elbowing me in the face, "I JUST WANT THAT WOMP WOMP, YA'LL!"
5/22: Move D, Reaganz, Sassmouth @ Monarch
5/28: Refused, White Lung @ GAMH
5/29: Spoon @ The Fox Theater, Oakland
5/29: Max Cooper EMERGENCE @ PW
5/30: Neutral Milk Hotel @ Pappy & Harriet's
6/2: Kiasmos ft. Olafur Arnalds, Rival Consoles @ The Independent
6/6: Matthew Dear, Daniel Bortz @ Public Works
6/12: Christian Loeffler @ TBA
6/17: Clap Your Hands Say Yeah @ The Independent
6/21: Underworld, Jungle @ The Hollywood Bowl
6/25: Until the Ribbon Breaks @ The Rickshaw Stop
we all want the womp womp
I only went last year and most of the LN sets were pretty great. That 2012 LN schedule looks bad though.
2013 was the best the late nights have been since 2010. the rza superjam was 2 hours of fire. r. kelly shit show, yim yames superjam was by all accounts the best superjam of all time, though i ate bad drugs and went to bed.
Apart from all else that I could muster in defense of Coachella, they are the major American festival that does the most each year to book meaningful legacy acts in punk, indie, and alternative rock. That more than anything is their niche, and that more than anything is what will keep me coming back.
Holy shit, a good, positive, insightful post from Guy in Tucson? Is this April Fool's Day?
That's more like it! Know your place in the world!
Everyone complaining is just trolling right? Or have you all not bothered to listen to any of the acts? I'm guessing the former.
This lineup is amazingly good, I couldn't be more excited. The only complaint is that they haven't extended the end time to 4am so there can be fewer conflicts.