2014 Rumors/Confirmations/Whatever/Etc.

[thelastgreatman]

sure, if you're going to add 'a 20+ year career as a headliner' sigur ros doesn't stack up. my point was that scope of appeal and on-stage prowess are not mutually inclusive. the difference between the bands is not their ability to put on a fantastic show. NIN simply appeals to a wider audience. the reasons don't particularly matter.

That and the fact that they have, you know, like 10 times as many fans. There's that thing.

[TickleMeElmo]

Actually what I'm beginning to wonder is where did the Muse rumor come from? Same for the NIN rumor? I haven't kept up too much with rumors this year.

Muse hinted at playing a festival in 2014 in California in a interview. There are technically zero rumors about NIN playing, just a big gap and their tour and a promise to come back to the US at some point.

Man, you guys like arguing about shit that's not going to happen quite a bit.

[orangejulius]

It's a serious question though. Can Outkast perform for 90 minutes? What would be a realistic setlist to keep a crowd entertained for that long?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outkast_discography

They have around 10-15 singles alone that charted well according to wiki sources. They could just play a history of singles like Soundgarden did at Lolla, or Dre/Snoopat Coachella and be well received. Guest appearances are probable as well, Sleepy Brown possibly making an appearance.

If we are going by years since a last album, it has been a long 13 years since Stankonia, 10 since Speakerboxx/The Love Below, and 7 since the less well received Idlewild. (5.7 million US for Boxx vs. 1 million sales US for Idle) Either way, they reached a level of popularity in the mid 90's to early 2000s that few hip hop groups could match or exceed.

I'm sure I'll be attacked for even posting a thoughtful comment. Please, insult my intelligence again, it's so endearing.

[Bumblebee]

The first page of this thread has the Muse evidence. NIN, I think, is just guesswork based on a tour gap, them playing a lot of festivals, and Reznor being an LA guy?

Did the "NIN was book right after HTDA played Coachella" rumour come from a reliable source?

Trent said he will play the US in 2014, yet it's either this or late summer. In Early 2013 Adrian Belew mentioned that NIN had already roughly booked 18 months of dates.

NIN have very expensive production bills, so it seems odd they have month off.

[Boourns]

I'll say it again: NIN cruise. That would be perfect.

[kvnty]

If NIN and Muse co-headline, Muse should sub for NIN, just like they did for RATM at LA Rising. That was lineup/scheduling perfection by GV right there.

[captncrzy]

Is an advert for this forum posted on a bulliten board at The School for the Biggest Fucking Idiots on Planet Earth?

[orangejulius]

For comparison, at Outside Lands, NIN headlined the main stage while Phoenix played a smaller stage. It's hard for me to imagine them sub-headlining Coachella.

This is probably one of the better points. They were also billed 4th, above Phoenix at Lolla this year, but below the Killers, Cure and Mumford. Don't ask me why the Killers still command that high a spot. We won't even talk about Mumford. I can see NIN billed with Muse, as the two audiences are somewhat intertwined, but playing an 11-something to 1AM set doesn't seem likely for a band as big as Nine Inch Nails. They aren't a cheap band and have a much larger US following than Blur and the Stone Roses, so starting them near midnight would be a bit of a waste for GV. I'd not oppose it though, as it would be pretty cool to see a late night NIN set.

[Bumblebee]

If NIN and Muse co-headline, Muse should sub for NIN, just like they did for RATM at LA Rising. That was lineup/scheduling perfection by GV right there.

Muse sold 4 times as many tickets in the LA market compared to NIN in 2013.

This is probably one of the better points. They were also billed 4th, above Phoenix at Lolla this year, but below the Killers, Cure and Mumford. Don't ask me why the Killers still command that high a spot. We won't even talk about Mumford. I can see NIN billed with Muse, as the two audiences are somewhat intertwined, but playing an 11-something to 1AM set doesn't seem likely for a band as big as Nine Inch Nails. They aren't a cheap band and have a much larger US following than Blur and the Stone Roses, so starting them near midnight would be a bit of a waste for GV. I'd not oppose it though, as it would be pretty cool to see a late night NIN set.

In 2010 they had Muse at 9:35-11:05 and Tiesto at 11:40-1:00.
http://www.robotevix.com/images/coac...10/2010sat.jpg

AFAIK, excluding EDM closers, the longest a "rock" subheadliner got playing before another rock act was MBV getting 75 minutes before Cure.

[mrhand]

We are working on new show elements for these dates

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[kvnty]

Muse sold 4 times as many tickets in the LA market compared to NIN in 2013.

... but how would you rate NIN vs. RATM or Muse vs. RATM? need record sales, box office reports, your educated projection on how RATM fares with current audiences, if this is relevant to a potential Muse-NIN co-headliner spot at Coachella and other information and statistics you deem necessary to carry on this conversation for another three or four more pages. I mean, we do have page counts to answer to.

[alec111]

^likes hearing Hey Ya on the radio, thinks he knows what the fuck is up without OutKast.

Try having some knowledge on the bs you choose to open your ignorant pie hole about, before you open said hole.
or be ignorant. Ur guud at it

If the argument is "they have one hit but the rest of their catalogue is awesome" than nobody should be bitching about the Stone Roses or Blur headlining. For that matter, for next year, noone should complain if the headliners turned out to be Faith No More, Gary Numan, and The Cars (well, they had more than one hit, but really only one or two that people remember).

[Boourns]

The new show element for The Knife will be Eddie Murphy appearing as Richard Simmons.

[mrhand]

The new show element for The Knife will be Eddie Murphy appearing as Richard Simmons.

Just watch them blow away all expectations with something amazing like legwarmers, better syncing on the lip syncing, or louder backing tracks.

[Boourns]

Just wait until you see what they do with spirit fingers.

[santasutt]

If the argument is "they have one hit but the rest of their catalogue is awesome" than nobody should be bitching about the Stone Roses or Blur headlining. For that matter, for next year, noone should complain if the headliners turned out to be Faith No More, Gary Numan, and The Cars (well, they had more than one hit, but really only one or two that people remember).

Off the top of our drunken heads:



"Just What I Needed"

"My Best Friend's Girl"

"Let's Go"

"it's All I Can Do"

"Touch and Go"

"Shake It Up"

"Since You're Gone"

"You Might Think"

"Drive"

"Magic"

"Why Can't I Have You"

"Hello Again"

"Tonight She Comes"

"You Are The Girl"

[alec111]

Off the top of our drunken heads:



"Just What I Needed"

"My Best Friend's Girl"

"Let's Go"

"it's All I Can Do"

"Touch and Go"

"Shake It Up"

"Since You're Gone"

"You Might Think"

"Drive"

"Magic"

"Why Can't I Have You"

"Hello Again"

"Tonight She Comes"

"You Are The Girl"

how many of those could you sing along to? I certainly don't think the average coachella goer knows more than two of those.

[Phantasma Del Mar]

I think the average attendee would start singing Gary Numas "Cars" if you asked them for a melody for a song by The Cars.

[santasutt]

how many of those could you sing along to? I certainly don't think the average coachella goer knows more than two of those.

Yeah. All of these. But my singing is a crime.

Kinda like the last third of that list.

They released a lot of shit at the end of their run.

[Mike Litoris]

Sunday is going to go as follows:
Beck> TV on the Radio>Outkast

You heard it here first

[Bumblebee]

how many of those could you sing along to? I certainly don't think the average coachella goer knows more than two of those.

Irony being that at Coachella Chromeo would draw a crowd 3-4 times bigger than the Cars.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Irony being that at Coachella Chromeo would draw a crowd 3-4 times bigger than the Cars.

Maybe 4.5 times bigger

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Irony being that at Coachella Chromeo would draw a crowd 3-4 times bigger than the Cars.

Also, can you provide some statistics on irony?

[heart cooks brain]

what does chromeo have to do with anything

[dillycup]

It's a serious question though. Can Outkast perform for 90 minutes? What would be a realistic setlist to keep a crowd entertained for that long?

They do. In fact 90 minutes won't be enough.

On a more serious note, I'd like to issue you a challenge to be more of a jackass.
I'm talking a papa roach level of jackassery.
I think you have it in you.

[Phantasma Del Mar]

Theklein is going to be next generations Slow Motion Apocalypse.

[theklein25]

Outkast are like a woman going through menopause. They can't produce anymore but need to build the hype somehow through a "reunion" to still be loved.

Is that what you wanted me to say.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Personally, I wanted you to say something more clever.

[heart cooks brain]

what is the ''reunion'' in the menopause metaphor?

[algunz]

Outkast are like a woman going through menopause. They can't produce anymore but need to build the hype somehow through a "reunion" to still be loved.

Is that what you wanted me to say.