Beyond Wonderland 2013 (socal)

[nick5745]

http://beyondwonderland.com/

March 16th, San Manuel amphitheater and grounds

Confirmed so far:



Rebelrave tour with: Damian Lazarus, Art Department, Maceo Plex, Maya Jane Coles, Subb-an





Hospital Records tour with: ? (probably high contrast, netsky, camo & krooked)

[nick5745]

actually it's a new venue, San Manuel amphitheater and grounds

http://beyondwonderland.com/

[Kurowski]

Anyone have an idea of how many stages will be there? I know a lot of people are pissed about the venue change but I'm kinda excited to see the new venue I've never been there

[Kurowski]

Tickets went on sale today $80 with service fees first round, kinda pricey but Pasquale said there will be multiple stages so, cant wait for the lineup

[tmac]

4 stages. 2 in the OP

[fatbastard]

L.A. rave promoter moving concert to Devore

The shift of Beyond Wonderland brings criticism from new venue's neighbors. Insomniac Inc. denies allegations that it's moving because of poor relations with San Bernardino.

By Rong-Gong Lin II and Paul Pringle, Los Angeles Times

February 6, 2013





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After complaints about drug use and noise, a Los Angeles-based rave company is moving one of its annual concerts from its longtime home in San Bernardino to Devore, but some neighbors of the new venue are angry about the change.

Insomniac Inc. decided to shift the Beyond Wonderland rave from the National Orange Show Events Center near downtown San Bernardino to the San Bernardino County-owned San Manuel Amphitheater after tensions with Police Chief Robert Handy and residents. It stages at least two other raves a year at the events center.

Handy said the raves have been marred by increases in crime, along with drug and alcohol abuse among concertgoers. He said undercover officers who attend the raves are routinely offered drugs for sale.

In September, an officer was injured while trying to arrest a suspected Ecstasy dealer at an Insomniac rave, the chief added. He also said Insomniac refused a police request to lower the music volume at an October rave after neighbors complained.

"That's where we reached the impasse," Handy said. "They said, 'We will do what we have to do to continue to make a profit,' " Handy said.

Insomniac spokeswoman Jennifer Forkish denied that the company is relocating Beyond Wonderland because of poor relations with the city. She said in an email response to questions that Handy's statements about the October concert were "categorically untrue."

"We are left to believe that the police chief must have been misinformed," Forkish said. "His comments are his personal perspective based upon secondhand information [that] in no way reflects what occurs at our festivals."

The county Board of Supervisors voted 3 to 2 last week to allow raves at the amphitheater for the first time. County officials said the venue manager, Live Nation Entertainment Inc., the Beverly Hills-based concert and ticketing giant, and the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department would deploy extra security staff and sheriff's deputies to keep the concert safe and orderly.

That didn't satisfy Supervisor Janice Rutherford, who voted against the raves and said many Devore residents would not welcome them. "They are just a horrible public safety concern, certainly for the young people who attend," she said. "It's not fair to just transfer the impact."

Rutherford said she was troubled by a Los Angeles Times article about raves that was published Sunday. Citing coroners' and law enforcement records, the article disclosed that at least 14 people who attended raves produced by Insomniac and another L.A.-based company have died in circumstances involving drugs since 2006. Two people fatally overdosed at Insomniac raves in San Bernardino, in 2006 and 2009, according to coroners' reports.

Devore resident Darcee Klapp, 51, said she was unhappy about the prospect of raves held less than two miles from her home. "If it doesn't work in one area, why would you jam it down another area's throat and say it'll work here?" Klapp said.

Supervisor Josie Gonzales, who supported the prospect of raves at the amphitheater (formerly called the Glen Helen Pavilion), said in a statement: "By increasing security and limiting the events to those over the age of 18, we can make these events as safe as any other concert we have at the amphitheater. If that proves not to be the case for the first concert, I will urge the Board of Supervisors to join me in banning future events like this."

San Bernardino City Atty. James Penman, who is pushing for an end to raves at the events center, said the move to Devore was not a solution.

"I'm very disappointed that the Board of Supervisors made the decision that they made," Penman said. "The focus ought to be the illegal drug activity that's going on there — that's what caused the deaths."

Forkish, the Insomniac spokeswoman, said in her email that the city attorney's perspective "does not reflect reality."

"We look forward to having a discussion with him and educating him on the issues," she said.

Beyond Wonderland will be held March 16.

ron.lin@latimes.com

paul.pringle@latimes.com


Copyright © 2013, Los Angeles Times

[cigabrette]

Pasquale instagrammed a picture today saying lineup and website are gonna be up tomorrow. Plus he said that there will be five stages, free parking, and grass fields. I'll be curious to see how many stages are on grass.....hopefully all!

[nick5745]

dont care much about much of this but live stage should have TEED and some other good names

source: http://beyondwonderland.com/BW_2012/...s.php?news=717

[tmac]

god damn umek is at every fucking insomniac event

[guedita]

god damn umek is at every fucking insomniac event

SHUT UP HE'S SUCH A GOOD GET GOD

[hangthedj112]

SHUT UP HE'S SUCH A GOOD GET GOD

YEAH HOW CAN YOU HATE ON INSOMNIAC'S AUTHENTIC UNDERGROUND TECHNO BOOKINGS

[nick5745]

it's not like coachella's techno bookings are much rarer

[Ross1492]

no, they're not.

they've done little more than scoop up the safe house/techno names that insomniac has been booking for a few years, w/ a few notable exceptions

[guedita]

the joke being, of course, that Insomniac has multiple events per year with the same names.

[guedita]

Well, besides the other joke. the one where neither I nor hangthedj have ever seriously touted Coachella's techno lineup as impressive.

[nick5745]

I would guess that Goldenvoice would probably book some of the same people if they through the same number of events year round

and yes, agreed but at least it's better than last year's sahara

no, they're not.

they've done little more than scoop up the safe house/techno names that insomniac has been booking for a few years, w/ a few notable exceptions

[sexualamandakiss]

I hope Richie Hawtin is there so that I wouldn't feel bad about missing him at Coachella

[SepaGroove]

Art Department and Maceo Plex will be dope, not interested in anything else on that lineup though.

[tmac]

richie will not be there

[suprefan]

Anyone have an idea of how many stages will be there? I know a lot of people are pissed about the venue change but I'm kinda excited to see the new venue I've never been there

You dont want go there. Theres room for 4 stages at the most. Also, its going to feel pretty empty on the lawn for this event. The venue can hold almost 70,000 people. I wonder if the rave safe people or whatever are going to police
Everone laying on fucking grass.

[scole11]

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That is a blah lineup for sure. Definitely won't be making the trip down from the Bay.

[tmac]

the rebel rave stage is awesome, but high contrast is the only act not on that stage worth seeing

[GuyInTucson]

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That is a blah lineup for sure. Definitely won't be making the trip down from the Bay.

Gross.

[brando4n82]

the joke being, of course, that Insomniac has multiple events per year with the same names.

Your jokes suck

[guedita]

They're on par with Insomniac events, I'll grant you that.

[guedita]

http://soundbleed.com/2013/02/insomn...-theyre-worse/

[GuyInTucson]

http://soundbleed.com/2013/02/insomn...-theyre-worse/

That only goes back to the mid-2000's too.

This is from Nocturnal Wonderland 2001.

http://iepolitics.net/2010/03/18/iep...havasu-lake-2/

[lt.roast.a.botch]

That article just reminds me how god awful LA people are.