"How long will this last, this delicious feeling of being alive, of having penetrated the veil which hides beauty and the wonders of celestial vistas? It doesn't matter, as there can be nothing but gratitude for even a glimpse of what exists for those who can become open to it."
Don't go, stop posting, problem solved.
8/8 - Xavier Wulf / Cashy / Yung Simmie - Echoplex - LA
8/18 - The Drums - The Sayers Club - LV
8/22-23 - FYF Festival - Expo Park - LA
8/27 - Chelsea Wolfe - Backstage Bar - LV
8/29 - Melvins - The Sayers Club - LV
9/13 - Kamasi Washington - Soda Bar - SD
9/26 - Kamasi Washington - Smith Center - LV
I love how the regulars are saying "Shut up. If you dont like it don't go" like they havent been complaining about SHM, Tiesto, Skrillex, Guetta, Kaskade the last 3 years.
Last edited by WhyTheLongFace; 01-26-2013 at 01:48 PM.
2. That is the derpiest article ever. A guy I know, who is actually a great guy but has no interest in music and comes to Coachella to party (favorite set last year was Calvin Harris), posted that same thing yesterday. They are acting like this "sunny California mega-band party" thing has been in existence forever, and wasn't just the 2012 lineup. I would bet anything that this author had never been prior to 2012.
If Swedish House Mafia was on one of these days, not even Daft Punk, most of the complainers would be like, "Sickest lineup ever!". While I was pretty apologetic for non-music fans coming to Coachella in droves last year, thinking that they'd be open minded, seeing them complain on Facebook has been eye opening...they want one or two huge mainstream blow out acts a night, and have absolutely no interest in anything else, and if they don't get that, they think their opinions of a festival lineup matters and is "correct".
The Facebook page this past year was flooded with potential first time and second time attendees legitimately and sincerely requesting/expecting Young Money and G.O.O.D. Music to headline, Swedish House Mafia to return, and like, Coldplay and Blink 182 to play. While I am open minded and think anybody should be able to experience new music at a festival, you cannot look at that objectively and say requests like that are in line with what GV's vision is. Thus, many of those first/second timers who bought a pre-sale ticket clearly had incorrect expectations about the type of acts this festival gravitates to. I will be the first one to say that the headliners are not nearly as high profile as the past few years, but I'm not really sure that is the only problem here.
They were also a replacement for a band these kids would hate
My first Coachella was last year and I never stepped foot in the Sahara. The undercard was stacked last year, but its much deeper this year and the overall quality of all genres has improved.
I don't afford GV any altruism, but I think its wise not to pigeonhole themselves into a redundant formula. It would be a shit festival if they only focused on getting a handful of "coveted" headliners. Maybe they tried for that and it fell flat, so they changed the gameplan and made sure the rest of the lineup was solid. Good on them.
I don't expect to have any trouble finding good music this year. If you do, you're doing it wrong.
It's not that complicated: Undercard is great every year. Headliners fluctuate. The quality of the headliners can make the difference between a good festival and a fucking fantastic one. People that pay a couple grand to attend and commit to a ticket a year in advance want to be blown away and want fucking fantastic, and GV has delivered that enough times to reasonably expect it.
Bitching and moaning about shit headliners doesn't equate to saying Coachella is going to be awful. It just means the ceiling on the festival potential has been lowered, and that's a legitimate gripe.
I'm sorry that you feel forced. I'd wager you don't quite understand what that means.
That article just posted says that Rolling Stone claims the Rolling Stones were pretty much a lock. When was the last time Rolling Stone was a reliable news source? Never? Yup, never. A photo of a polo ball on a polo field does not equal Rolling Stones.
It's nobody else's fault that people buy into the speculation that happens on this board and elsewhere. It's just that: speculation. There's frequently little weight behind it, and many of the rumors that people were hoping for were expressly negated before the lineup was announced. Sure, these headliners are not big like in years past and RHCP is a weak choice, but what is a logical, realistic alternative they could have gone with?
Bruce Springsteen, sure. Repeat any other old headliner, fine (but they're doing that.) Daft Punk? Not touring, so it was never gonna happen? Bon Jovi? Go jump off a bridge.
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I'll help and eliminate some options for you for.
Daft Punk - Not ready. They are asked every year
David Bowie - Not ready, may never even perform live again
The Smiths - Publicly stated they turned down the festival
Talking Heads - David Byrne has said they have no interest
OutKast - Andre 3000 has been very public they are not reuniting anytime soon
Watch the Throne - Admittedly potentially plausible, if Kanye is doing shows right now.
The Rolling Stones - Depending on the source you believe, either not playing festivals at all or cost way too much money for GV to afford
U2 - See above, way too much money, do not do festivals outside of Glastonbury for a trillion reasons
Madonna - Bad history with Coachella, and really?
Justin Timberlake - Admittedly may or may not have been an option, no idea here
In 2011 everybody accused Coachella of having weak headliners, and then Bonnarroo, Lolla, ACL, etc followed with similarly weaker choices. It may just be one of those years where the huge blowout headliner is not readily available.
Bonnaroo is getting Bjork and Macca. Expect people here to bitch about Coachella not getting them this year when the lineup comes out.
And to me, Watch The Throne was a ridiculously obvious choice for festival closer this year if they weren't going to make a bold move with someone new to begin with. Wouldn't mind Timberlake either. Hell, I have said at least have Blur close out the festival. I think there is a shot they win tons of people over with a big set. At least there is a chance at something exciting there. RHCP is a 100% guaranteed dud as far as I'm concerned.
Sigh. I really wish Bjork was playing.
but, i agree with your general sentiment. the problem (for me) this year, is that the lineup fails to justify the ticket price. the idea being that price of ticket equates with the rarity/exclusivity/caliber of artists booked. i'm not saying that great artists aren't on the lineup, and i'm not saying that my opinion speaks for everyone else, but the sentiment that the lineup this year is particularly weak obviously isn't a new one. it doesn't have any "sacred cows" for me, and i don't feel like it would have been that much of a stretch (logistically or financially) for GV to have booked some bigger/bigger/more relevant artists. especially in the EDM lineup. everyone is raving (no pun?) how this year is more diverse and less cheeseball than last year, but aside from a few bands and gimmicky artists, i'm just looking at a list of DJs who probably will or would realistically appear, at other nearby festivals.
i felt 2012 was the worst lineup i'd seen yet (going since 2006), but i ended up having a great time. part of my enjoyment came from discovering new acts on the poster but i'm still of the opinion that overall it was a middling lineup. i'm hoping this year i have a similar experience. as some say "once is a fluke, twice is a trend..."; my belief in the festival remains strong, but it is waning...
Having McCartney and Bjork certainly would help in some eyes, but Bjork, like RHCP, would be a three-time headliner and McCartney headlined four years ago and would be back to play what? The same set? There would still be plenty of people bitching about the headliners.
I am not going to argue the legitimacy of three questionable headliners and one lazy choice, because I agree with the general consensus. But I don't go for the sole purpose of seeing the headliners. I agree that some bigger and / or better headliners would put this lineup over the top, but I am making the choice to observe what I DO like about the lineup and there is plenty for me to be happy about.
Don't get me wrong, I like some of Fever Ray's stuff and it wasn't a bad show, but it kills me every time I recall that I skipped all but the last 15 minutes of PILs 10x better show on the outdoor to see that Fever Ray set.
Probably the biggest wrong call I've ever made in all my years of dealing with Coachella Conflicts, other than going with Black Keys over M83 last year.