fools. all of you.
guns are here to protect you.
the amount of gun violence compared to violence with other tools of weaponry is insignificant.
it is absolutely miniscule if you compare it to tobacco or automobiles, both of which are just tools.
a gun is a strange kind of tool, intended for protection, however can be used for destruction.
if you limit the availability of this tool, only those who wish destruction upon others will have them.
these people are insane criminals, and you have to realize no matter what laws we enforce these insane criminals will not follow them, THEY ARE CRIMINALS.
this is the protection argument. now yes legally there should be some requirement to legally own them (background check) blah blah blah... you just have to realize the more requirements you have the harder it is for sane and legal citizens, who wish to do nothing but protect, to obtain their tools(guns).
there is a much more sound and irrefutable argument though.
and that is the possibility of tyranny. if you refute this argument by saying that it is an impossibility (most do), then you haven't studied history. you also haven't thought about this scenario, the one we are headed down mind you...
gun control is implemented
2nd amendment repealed
guns banned for citizens
20 years pass, administrations change, laws stay relative
a congress who works together for their own personal benefits is unwittingly voted in. (extremely plausible we are almost there now)
basically at this point your fucked and cant defend yourself.
all you have to do is research the sweeds gun program.
they issue every household an assault riffle, they issue every man given a riffle training, they have the lowest gun violence statistics in the world.
I suggest you go shoot people who are working toward that inevitable course of events you describe.
SD, do very many NYC cabbies pack heat?
Because if you can make it there...
Jak say something interesting. Ok ok people who murder other people are crazy. Thanks for the tip. What else you got?
the walrus is totally going to go shoot an F-35 in the face. For freedom.
I think the walrus has a valid point. There might come a time, soon, when we have a government that taxes the poor to pay the rich; that starts wars for made up reasons; that tortures prisoners and spies on its citizens; and all the while leaves the country undefended from attack. It may seem far-fetched, but really it could happen.
It would be a lot easier to defend the usefulness of high-powered assault rifles if every once in a while somebody took one and shot up a KKK rally or the Westboro Baptist Church or something. Where the fuck are all the rational homicidal maniacs?
F-35s don't kill people, people do. The 101st Airborne doesn't kill people, people do.
in the 2010 carlsbad school shooting, the shooter was found to be legally sane. good thing he only wounded people or he might have been insane under the law of jackstraw™
Help me here, I value others' perspectives. Is there really a whole segment of the population unable to think in any terms other than glib soundbites? I mean, do we have a subnation of Neighborhood Creeps, whose reasoning ability and debating skills are more akin to a middle school playground than anything resembling thoughtful dialogue? Do these people never question their own assumptions, think through a full set of facts, attempt to understand the role of the subconscious? Is this how propaganda works? Is this why Republicans keep voting to cut education funding?
This is 'Merica, Jack. Love it, or get the fuck out!
bmack always wins, props to you yesterday too on your response about gang members and ptsd as well. I didn't say as much yesterday while me and jack were going back and frorth.
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what are you using as your benchmark?
late 18th century French salon society. duh.