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    Individual rights are too important not to think them all the way through.
    You know it's funny. I've worked with plenty of blinks (blind people) and all of them were the first to say "take guns away from me I won't be safe with them." I guess he should actually talk to some before he makes this video.
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    That should be an SNL sketch.

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    I'm afraid to click play. The guy is too hot, I don't want to ruin it by hearing whatever BS comes out of it.
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    I'm pretty sure he's gay, so you should go for it Jorge.

    Putting aside how fucking stupid this guy's case is.. focus on "we should always err on the side of individual rights and individual freedoms". Then ask these same people how they feel about gay marriage, legalized marijuana, and immigration. I mean hey, isn't the guy coming in from Mexico to work here simply exercising his individual freedom?

    These obvious contradictions point out what should be apparent to all: The pro-gun argument focusing on rights and freedoms is a red herring. What these people really are in favor of is wanting to be able to shoot guns because of some Freudian penis thing.

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    Montana Shooter Found Guilty Despite State's 'Castle Doctrine.'

    I'm really proud of my hometown jury for convicting this piece of shit. These so-called "Castle Doctrines" need to go. Just because you own a house does not make the sovereign lord of the land, capable of handing out death sentences for trespassing. I read an article about this kid's parents who had to come all the way from Germany to attend the trial of their son's murderer. I believe it was their first visit to the United States. Missoula is an awesome place, but gun culture is prevalent there and I had a lot of anxiety about this verdict. It's a huge relief that the jury (and I believe the community as whole) found this man's conduct unacceptable. Hopefully Diren Dede's parents can begin to find some peace.

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    Explain to me what better gun control is without literally taking the guns out of everybody's hands, if a crazy person wants to kill a bunch of people they will find a gun and they will do it there isn't any gun control that could possibly undo almost any mass shooting, that is a fact. Best case scenario is that somebody else has a gun to stop the shooter end of story. Arm yourself and don't become a victim. Nutty gun control activists want to take guns away from everyone not just the mentally ill or the bad guys, this is some kind of stupid when you have a constitution that protects us from this.
    I don't even know how to respond to this kind of logic anymore.

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    "When valor preys on reason, It eats the sword it fights with."

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    The Michigan woman who opened fire on some shoplifters at Home Depot seems to have taken the stopping bad guys to heart

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    The police "aren't sure" whether to charge her with anything or not. She's luckily she didn't hit anyone or she would be in some serious shit.

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    The idea that innocent bystanders might be killed by 'well intentioned' armed civilians with guns trying to shoot down 'bad guys' is madness.
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    It's pretty amazing that the pro-gun argument has now become "the way to solve the mass shootings problem is to make them more like the donut shop scene in Boogie Nights."
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    I just read that Michigan has the "fleeing-felon rule" which more or less means you're allowed to kill someone who committed a felony and is fleeing.



    EDIT* Not sure how it works in Michigan, but now I'm reading that in some states the shooter has to have direct knowledge of a felony. Just seeing two people running from store employees doesn’t qualify. Nor does knowledge of a theft - the theft would specifically have to be a *felony* and not a misdemeanor.
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    Wouldn't ordinary citizens stopping ordinary crime with deadly force be considered cruel and unusual punishment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroir Noir View Post
    It's pretty amazing that the pro-gun argument has now become "the way to solve the mass shootings problem is to make them more like the donut shop scene in Boogie Nights."
    Holy shit. I just made this same comparison to a friend the other day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gribbz View Post
    I just read that Michigan has the "fleeing-felon rule" which more or less means you're allowed to kill someone who committed a felony and is fleeing.
    Additionally, what if a second concealed carrier in the parking lot just randomly saw this person shooting at the fleeing car, but had no knowledge of the context and assumed she was a crazy person shooting at people in public? Can that person then legally shoot her?

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    We should just be allowed to shoot anyone really, that might make things easier.

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    3 campus shootings in one day.

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    Well, stuff happens.
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    I never understood the argument the only way to stop a "bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". I mean it makes sense in theory but when the cops show and see two people with guns firing how are they supposed to know who is the good guy and bad guy? Aren't they just going to fire at both people they see with guns?
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    That's why the ex-military guy in Oregon chose not to intervene.

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    There was a "good guy with a gun" story recently here in Texas. A guy was getting carjacked and someone stepped in and opened fire on the thieves. Unfortunately he accidentally shot the owner of the car in the head. Thankfully he lived though.

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    There was a "good guy with a gun" story recently here in Texas. A guy was getting carjacked and someone stepped in and opened fire on the thieves. Unfortunately he accidentally shot the owner of the car in the head. Thankfully he lived though.
    And didn't the 'good guy' like, flee the scene? Have they found him?
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    So I guess when you put Harvard in front of something it's indisputable.

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    And didn't the 'good guy' like, flee the scene? Have they found him?
    They still haven't found him I don't think. He apparently picked up all of his shell casings before fleeing the scene too.

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    He apparently picked up all of his shell casings before fleeing the scene too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unit300021 View Post
    I never understood the argument the only way to stop a "bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". I mean it makes sense in theory but when the cops show and see two people with guns firing how are they supposed to know who is the good guy and bad guy? Aren't they just going to fire at both people they see with guns?
    Not just the cops, but let's say there's 1 shooter, and at least 2, maybe 3 or more "good guys with guns", how does anyone know which one the "bad guy with a gun" shooter is? I guess they better stop and ask each possible assailant before they open fire.

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    I just read that Michigan has the "fleeing-felon rule" which more or less means you're allowed to kill someone who committed a felony and is fleeing.



    EDIT* Not sure how it works in Michigan, but now I'm reading that in some states the shooter has to have direct knowledge of a felony. Just seeing two people running from store employees doesn’t qualify. Nor does knowledge of a theft - the theft would specifically have to be a *felony* and not a misdemeanor.
    Turns out she's actually being charged. Wow.

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    And then there is this story. So if this particular story isn't a mental health issue then would this be considered a crowd issue then? I mean clearly isn't the gun right?

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/dall...l-and-he-does/
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    I signed up my ex for the lolz


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    The creepiest part of that is Cruz's slogan at the bottom. Ted Cruz's body is a wonderland.
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