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    I thought the gun "control" vs. gun "ban" argument was clarified.

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    American school system obviously shit hot in the history dept.
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    well, for all intensive porpoises it is, will sell out within seconds tomorrow.
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    Forget about gun control, let's just ban Call of Duty. Seriously, fuck those games.
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    Is there big spates of vehicle related violence?

    What is your next argument? If we had no hearts there would be no heart attacks?
    I admire you all for your perseverence in avoiding the obvious point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofhal View Post
    American school system obviously shit hot in the history dept.
    Did you honestly believe he was being serious about the WWII crack?

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    To be honest, it's getting hard to tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustSteve View Post
    read somewhere that the shooter's mom mentioned thinking something like this might happen. at what point can we start holding the parents of these people who commit these insane acts responsible?
    That's ridiculous. He is an adult. What control does the mother have over him anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marooko View Post
    I thought the gun "control" vs. gun "ban" argument was clarified.
    Thickness prevails.
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    Actually it makes me furious when oeople blame mental illness for things like this. It stigmatizes the vast majority of non-violent mentally ill people and I'm sorry but no matter how fucked somebody is in the head it neither explains not justifies killing other human beings.
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    All day, the news about this has been really disheartening and has been stuck in my head. My thoughts go out to all the victims who were affected by this tragedy.
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    Actually it makes me furious when oeople blame mental illness for things like this. It stigmatizes the vast majority of non-violent mentally ill people and I'm sorry but no matter how fucked somebody is in the head it neither explains not justifies killing other human beings.
    Really? What would be a pc way of classifying a violent mentally ill person?

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    It's not about being PC. Mental illness doesn't cause people to kill people. It takes serious character flaws for someone to jump from psychosis to murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceyHotshot View Post
    It's not about being PC. Mental illness doesn't cause people to kill people. It takes serious character flaws for someone to jump from psychosis to murder.
    "loss of contact with reality"

    Its not that they are violent all the time some people just lose touch with social right and wrong. Mentally ill/disturbed is the correct term.

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    Amy, do you think he should have to pay for any of the damage he did while defacing the theater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubesock Shakur View Post
    "loss of contact with reality"

    Its not that they are violent all the time some people just lose touch with social right and wrong. Mentally ill/disturbed is the correct term.
    I still disagree. there is also a difference between psychotic and psychopathic. I doubt anyone blaming mental illness for this shit has ever had a psychotic episode.
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    That is an interesting distinction, Icey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceyHotshot View Post
    It's not about being PC. Mental illness doesn't cause people to kill people. It takes serious character flaws for someone to jump from psychosis to murder.
    I'm pretty sure that we have a common law tradition dating to about 1500 or so suggesting otherwise.
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    Laws are not always the best way to distinguish how society should function in a healthy manner.

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    Yeah, but they are usually the best way to distinguish how the society's legal system should do things like, say, assess culpability for murder.
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    Gunz, that's just crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayaDelWes View Post
    Amy, do you think he should have to pay for any of the damage he did while defacing the theater?
    If he has any savings, he should.

    As an aside: we are not having my daughter pay for that picture. We are convinced that she did not do it. She is writing a letter to her grandma explaining her side of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroir Noir View Post
    Yeah, but they are usually the best way to distinguish how the society's legal system should do things like, say, assess culpability for murder.
    Yes but I'm talking about how I believe things actually are. Obviously pleading insanity will be an option his legal team will consider. It doesn't mean I think it's right.
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    Congrats to you and your family. I was on your kid's side from the getgo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofhal View Post
    If your argument for no gun control is they'll get hold of them anyway, then why not just legalise everything? I mean, they'll get hold of it anyway if they want to, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marooko View Post
    Gunz, that's just crazy.
    Sometimes crazy ideas are what sparks the needed revolution. There are too many laws, archaic and new, that really have little impact on providing a world order that can guarantee a safe and productive society.

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    On what basis -- legal, ethical, or psychological -- can you support the notion that a person's decision to murder is always reducible to one or more legally-blameworthy "character flaws" -- character flaws, mind you, that by definition would have to be singled out and blamed independently from any co-existing mental disorders that the person may have?
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    It's hard to argue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by algunz View Post
    Sometimes crazy ideas are what sparks the needed revolution. There are too many laws, archaic and new, that really have little impact on providing a world order that can guarantee a safe and productive society.
    Yeah, but this isn't some "101 wacky laws still on the books" thing, or like a law saying you can't buy beer on Sunday or whatever. This is a foundational principle of the criminal justice system: if a crime requires a mental intent element, you can't convict a person of having the necessary mental intent if they lack the capacity to understand their actions and/or their consequences due to one or more mental illnesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayaDelWes View Post
    Congrats to you and your family. I was on your kid's side from the getgo.
    ha. I guess the actual defacing was little mustaches drawn on various religious figures. My daughter would not do that. She's not 4, and she does respect other people's property.
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