Goldenvoice threatens to move Coachella and Stagecoach music festivals from Indio

[thestripe]

I'm sure that cut them real deep.

[jtovar21]

Sounds like according to this article it's a done deal. This was the link also provided on the Huffington Post, as well. Anyone think this was ALWAYS in the cards, the decision to leave here seems like it was made awhile ago, according to the article.

http://www.thewrap.com/music/article...ye-indio-46596

[captncrzy]

Huffington Post==MOST RELIABLE SOURCE OF NEWS

[jtovar21]

Huffington Post==MOST RELIABLE SOURCE OF NEWS

To be fair HuffPost is mostly a news aggregator and doesn't do too much reporting themselves. But that's the link they are posting on the site, just sayin'.

[PlayaDelWes]

Someone calling themselves Paul Tollett says:
July 5, 2012 at 9:02 am
Ignore this message. urb.com has their facts wrong. Wait until the official word from GV. Thank you.

-PT

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[nathanfairchild]

To be fair HuffPost is mostly a news aggregator and doesn't do too much reporting themselves. But that's the link they are posting on the site, just sayin'.

until there is an official announcement from goldenvoice, let's just assume anything being "reported" is complete horse shit.

[jtovar21]

Hmm is this Irvine Park still in development hell? I'd hate to see it move to OC actually, but could be in the cards maybe with 'backroom deals' and all. Speculation is fun

[patsfan5454]

They are even reporting it on the morning news on channel 5, "looks like Coachella will be leaving in 2014 due to an 18 % increased tax proposed by the city council" I'm excited for a change, Take all the time you need Goldenvoice, and put together an awesome venue with lots of grass and alot more space!

[HotHamWater]

They are even reporting it on the morning news on channel 5, "looks like Coachella will be leaving in 2014 due to an 18 % increased tax proposed by the city council" I'm excited for a change, Take all the time you need Goldenvoice, and put together an awesome venue with lots of grass and alot more space!

Did the television reporter cite his/her sources?

[Mr. Fuzz]

I say, "Make them pay". GV are sounding like some greedy fuckers.

[stinkbutt]

Would you agree to an 18% tax increase just because you are doing well for yourself?

[PotVsKtl]

Perhaps negotiation would have been wise.

[Mr. Fuzz]

"Doing well for myself" is making $75,000 a year, homie. They need to give back to our community.

[Tubesock Shakur]

Dont move it to Vegas. Dont move it to Vegas. Dont move it to Vegas.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Sounds like according to this article it's a done deal. This was the link also provided on the Huffington Post, as well. Anyone think this was ALWAYS in the cards, the decision to leave here seems like it was made awhile ago, according to the article.

http://www.thewrap.com/music/article...ye-indio-46596

The source in that article is the same one in the Urb article, the same one we've been discussing in this thread for days. In it Paul is quoted with saying IF they make the tax happen, the fest will move blah blah. A lot of people are having the same reading comprehension problems these fuckwads "journalists" are having.

All of these sources have just all of a sudden discovered attention to an almost-week-old local article that we've known about since it was first published. This is stupid.

[Miroir Noir]

Maybe they could give back to the community by donating $3 from each ticket to charity.

[PotVsKtl]

They could just jack up hoodie prices.

[stinkbutt]

"Doing well for myself" is making $75,000 a year, homie. They need to give back to our community.

How do you think your community is going to do when you force them out?

[Mr. Fuzz]

Rich people need to pay taxes.

[stinkbutt]

Poor people need businesses that help their communities

[JustSteve]

They already do, well over a million. How about all the money they pay for permitting, to the city for police and other services. There is hundreds of thousands or a million more. This whole tax the rich more because they have the money argument is such bullshit.

[PotVsKtl]

The middle class needs sick beats.

[PlayaDelWes]

Maybe they could give back to the community by bringing a bunch of business for the festival to the valley’s restaurants, taxi and shuttle drivers, by hiring local workers, and providing 3 weeks of guaranteed occupancy for hotels and renters in the area and all of the taxes associated with those services.

[PotVsKtl]

This whole tax the rich more because they have the money argument is such bullshit.

Welcome to America. We have a progressive taxation system. It's been this way for decades. Go get mouthfuck desiccated.

[Miroir Noir]

Mr. Fuzz, I am about as much of a redistributionist, spread-the-wealth-around liberal as they come. Half of this country has lost its mind in a crazy belief that no one, anywhere, but especially the rich and powerful, should ever be asked to pay higher taxes. But that's not what this is: this is one city councilman proposing to invent a whole new category of tax to specifically target one unique event in his city, instead of asking his citizens to pay higher taxes for their own services. This isn't a great stand for fairness and justice in taxing, it's a great stand for stupidity: creating a new, discriminatory tax that kills the golden goose.

The company that runs the event, is a successful for-profit entity, no doubt, but one that does give back to the community through charity, and one that has enough of a conscience to fight for its customers in promising to not pass the cost of new taxes on to them. Moreover, the company and its event pump hundred of thousands if not millions of dollars of tax revenue into the city's coffers already, through sales and tourism-related taxes. To say nothing of the stimulative effect that the event and the people that it employs have on the local economy overall.

[GuyInTucson]

Mitch beat me to it.

It's very simple: Shut the fuck up and be happy with what two weekends of Coachella and one weekend of Stagecoach bring to the economy of Indio and surrounding communities, or risk having it move elsewhere - possibly out of the Coachella Valley completely - and get nothing. Sam Torres proposed tax has completely backfired in his face.

[PotVsKtl]

Goldenvoice is a huge entity with a similarly sized impact on the local community. The responsible thing to do would be to negotiate, not play chicken with the local government. If Torres' answer to his constituents was "shut the fuck up and take it" he would be a terrible representative.

[thestripe]

It is equally GV's right to move their business elsewhere if they feel the tax is bullshit.

[PotVsKtl]

Of course it's their right. It's their right to shut down the festival at any time. I'm suggesting that, from all appearances, it is being handled poorly.

[Miroir Noir]

My guess is that Goldenvoice is not negotiating on this issue because they either a) want to totally marginalize the tax effort politically, and they feel that they have the maximum leverage to do so, or b) are actually using this as an excuse to execute long-gestating plans move out Indio anyway, which, according to those leaked text messages, seems like a real possibility.