Omnibus 2013 Headliner Speculation and Argument Thread

[ocbruin84]

I can't see Eminem doing Coachella...but then again I never thought Dr. Dre would either. Something about Jay-Z & Kanye felt alright - I guess they both have more connections to other Coachella artists/music styles, or their style of hip hop is more laid back. Eminem is so angry and violent though, it doesn't fit the paradigm to me. I felt the same about Dr. Dre though he's also way more legendary than Eminem (in my eyes). Whatever, anything's possible I guess.

Edit: I just saw a Green Day blurb and this whole 3-album thing...it's almost like setting them up to headline. I don't really pop-punk (headlining!) at Coachella but whatever.

[ods..]

Fuck Green Day. I almost hope they headline so I can be close at a different (much better) act.

[WhatLies]

mainstage
Friday drake > Phoenix > deadmau5
Saturday beck > no doubt > greenday
Sunday sigur ros > qotsa > pearl jam

This would crossover to fanbases beautifully and it would fit "Coachella" very well

[frizzlefry]

I'm honestly a little confused about how Eminem's set list works. Does he try to space out his songs where he makes death threats against pop stars and his songs that have pop starts in them or does he just not bother because he knows the audience will gobble that shit up?

[nathanfairchild]

I'm honestly a little confused about how Eminem's set list works. Does he try to space out his songs where he makes death threats against pop stars and his songs that have pop starts in them or does he just not bother because he knows the audience will gobble that shit up?

have you seen his show lately? it's like every other hip hop show out there. eminem plays all of his hits (well in medley form for the most part), some annoying hype guy tries to get the crowd riled up, and then they do a nate dogg tribute. maybe some fireworks afterwards depending on the festival. very little interaction with the crowd other than to say how he's grateful for his sobriety blah, blah, blah. oh, and very few guests. i think he had like one at lolla last year.

[frizzlefry]

Dammit nathan you didn't answer my question and I've never seen any of his shows and even for the love of science I will never sit through one!

[travelfan]

The argument for what hip-hop does and does not belong at Coachella is based on such intangible qualities that I've given up defining what does and what doesn't belong. It's just a gut reaction at this point. For me, Kanye, Jay-Z, Dre, OutKast, Beastie Boys, The Fugees, Quest, Pharcyde they all fit. Eminem and Lil' Wayne have always stood out like a sore thumb as acts that I don't think will ever be booked at Coachella. Those are Lolla/Bonnaroo hip-hop bookings.

[heart cooks brain]

Eminem's Coachella appearance occurred a few weeks ago. he's not coming back in 2013.

[frizzlefry]

Yeah, whoever heard of an act playing a smaller set the year before they came back to headline?
/devil's advocate

[travelfan]

He is absolutely never headlining.

[heart cooks brain]

He is absolutely never headlining.

[Somewhat Damaged]

Yeah, there's some element of crossover with all of the headliners they'll book. That's why they'd be playing at the same festival. I'm sure a lot of people wanted to see Radiohead and Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg this year. Or Arcade Fire and Kanye West last year. I think what years they were active and popular seems like an arbitrary reason not to book both of them.

I understand why it would cross your mind, though.

Would you find it odd if next year's headliners were Tool, Nine Inch Nails, and the original line-up of the Smashing Pumpkins or Soundgarden? (Assuming that NIN had a new album to promote & that was to be the kick-off to the Smashing Pumpkins or Soundgarden reunion tour.) This is what I was getting at, more than just the fact that there are people who would want to see both Radiohead & Dr. Dre/Snoop Dogg. Would Pearl Jam be lumped into that same group of acts, or are they not really considered heavy enough?

[with_cheese]

For those who still have a hard time believing Jack White as a headliner http://pitchfork.com/news/46375-jack...ts-number-one/

[TickleMeElmo]

For those who still have a hard time believing Jack White as a headliner http://pitchfork.com/news/46375-jack...ts-number-one/

So by this logic, can The Decemberists, Lupe Fiasco, Cake and Mac Miller headline too?

[Nealocus]

So by this logic, can The Decemberists, Lupe Fiasco, Cake and Mac Miller headline too?

Your just exaggerating his point. I agree with the idea that Jack White could headline if they wanted / needed him. BRB music resume of awesomeness; The White Stripes, The Racontours, The Dead Weather and now an amazing #1 solo record? Not too hard to consider.

I'm not saying he is the end all be all choice, but it would be naive to say he has no chance. Especially if he has good performances at Sasquatch and the other festivals he's playing at.

[frizzlefry]

Are we expecting Jack White to have lackluster performances now? I just don't see it happening, no matter the arguments or evidence I hear. The fact that he's going to be on Twin Peaks Stage closing against the actual billed headliner at OSL really cements my disbelief

[with_cheese]

So by this logic, can The Decemberists, Lupe Fiasco, Cake and Mac Miller headline too?

That's not the only reason why I think he can headline. Just adding to the debate.

Stop being so aggressively dumb.

[travelfan]

So by this logic, can The Decemberists, Lupe Fiasco, Cake and Mac Miller headline too?

Cake headlined Oysterfest in San Francisco. Therefore, by the principle of festival headliner transferability, they can indeed headline Coachella.

[Miroir Noir]

Jack White could headline Coachella. I don't know how someone can look at the placement of the Foo Fighters and the Black Keys and the Muses of the festival circuit and not see Jack White as having approximately the same value. This isn't the same thing as Thom Yorke and the Thom Yorke Experience playing a modestly-received four-year-old side project/solo album in its entirety. It's a full-fledged attempt to carry on his own musical legacy, hence the performance of multiple White Stripes songs in his set list. Granted, by April of next year, it would be a lazy headlining booking, but it's not absurd to say he could headline.

[with_cheese]

Especially considering The Black Keys headliner this year.

[DeadSkin]

Jack White would be great but this year is his Summer Festival year. He isn't going to waste time doing this same thing next year. My money is on someone else.

[Phunkevil]

Jack White is headlining Lolla/Sasquatch.

The thing is is that more or less any band can headline those two fests.

[travelfan]

Jack White is headlining Lolla/Sasquatch.

The thing is is that more or less any band can headline those two fests.

Don't forget, he is also the fourth billed headliner at Outside Lands.

[Miroir Noir]

Yes, behind three artists that have sold a combined 30 billion albums, and ahead of the Foo Fighters (who everyone here stipulates could headline). That's a purposely obtuse argument.

[Tikiman]

With their new album due next year, if Pearl Jam doesn't end out headlining I'd be surprised. Beastie Boys are also due. I'm not sure why people are saying Jack White, Thom Yorke or anyone else touring this year. You rarely see performers like that tour back to back years.

[heart cooks brain]

Don't forget, he is also the fourth billed headliner at Outside Lands.

where were black keys billed at osl last year?

[nathanfairchild]

can we please move on from speculating about fucking jack white?

[heart cooks brain]

can we please move on from speculating about fucking jack white?

dude, it's gonna be a long 8 months. no need to get all steamed up just yet.

[Aikopua3]

Jumping back to a female headliner speculation. Anyone think that with a new album dropping this summer Alanis Morrissette could headline, or at least play the Outdoor Stage?
No commence with the flaming.

[nathanfairchild]

she could play the outdoor, but headlining is not even remotely possible.