The White Stripes 9/18
I have great hope that there will be several US shows since the article expressly mentions a "world" tour. But they're not going to play at Coachella before they play their reunion dates in Manchester.
SUEDE toured the US MANY times between 1993 and 1997, with and without Bernard. Stone Roses NEVER set foot in the US with the classic lineup and only did a tiny handful of dates in 1995 with a ringer on drums.
Last edited by Bumblebee; 10-18-2011 at 02:12 PM.
New site up and running. Cant see them playing anywhere else before the Manchester gigs in June.
Come a long long, come a long long way
if it's "not about the money" and more about "playing music and reaching people", then maybe they'll erm put-their-money-where-their-mouth-is and do some discount gigs in the states for the fans over here who never got to see their heroes live in the flesh. I'm not saying a show at The Glasshouse or El Rey or something ridiculous like that, but hit up a couple festivals. Like Coachella for instance.
At a certain level, the reunions of seminal '80s and '90s bands at Coachella matters only to the musically initiated (including the people who post on festival message boards), the handful of diehard fans and legitimate nostalgia cases, and the people who scribble about music for a living. The average college kid who is paying $320 plus expenses for the weekend party simply does not care about these acts.
Pavement and Faith No More were first US reunion shows with high billing on the mainstage at night. Very modest turnouts for both.
The Pavement crowd would surely have been bigger if a lot of people weren't camping at the Outdoor for Atoms for Peace.
Even if it weren't for the allure of the Hot Chip->MGMT one-two punch of derp, I think the Faith No More crowd would still have been modest.
yeah, yeah, yeah - their UK festival gigs coincide a bit close to coachella - but i would be SHOCKED if The Stone Roses aren't headlining coachella next year.
your know golden voice is gonna dump a bunch of cash at the lads' feet - plus the temptation to play to 90,000 people has gotta be tempting. especially since The Roses never really formally introduced themselves to the states.
I've seen no indication they are huge in the US. Promoters couldn't even get Pulp/Blur here. Stone Roses also choked real hard at Spike island and Reading.
Plus Ian Brown has to get a US work Visa after a couple legal run-ins and jail time about 8 years ago.
from my understanding, spike island was a clusterfuck from the beginning. the place nearly flooded out during the concert. not to mention the gnarly winds.
reading was the end of the band - they were barely talking to eachother by that point.
the stone roses have the folklore behind them. even in the states - they would be a definite draw. not as big as in the UK admittedly. but if there was ever a band with unfinished business, it's the stone roses.
can't speak to ian's legal troubles.
You guys are delusional. Comparing the Stone Roses to Duran Duran??? Duran Duran, whether you're interested in them or not, were HUGE in the US... they had like half a dozen platinum records, at least a dozen hit singles, won a couple of grammys... Stone Roses have *nothing*. Don't get me wrong, I love them, but they are just not well known or well appreciated at all on this side of the pond. That "folklore" you're talking about is really, really isolated to a small but loyal fanbase. I feel like we're going to be lucky to get a handful of shows in major cities on the coasts. Coachella 2013 seems really unlikely IMO... I guess I don't trust that they'll hold it for a year and a half...
I'd hope his criminal record doesn't prevent him from getting a visa. Seems so random these days.
so, the fame that DD had back in the day has been eclipsed by laissez faire fans and the fact that most "cool people" still think everyone in the band is gay (even though they've turned down more pussy than we'll ever get in our lifetimes ;-)
and being coachella is "hipster central" (no offense intended) - the stone roses would be a big draw.
True enough. They played like... 2 acts before the headliner, yea? So mid-tier. I just think it's laughable to compare them to a band like Duran Duran as justification for why they should be highly placed on a lineup... I mean, "i would be SHOCKED if The Stone Roses aren't headlining coachella next year"???? This is ridiculous.
Look, I love the Stone Roses. They're one of my favorite bands ever. But you're grossly exaggerating their fan base and their draw. I would love it if they appeared on that lineup, and if a whole new generation was exposed to them because of it. But I think in reality, if they end up playing, it's going to be a Suede-esque spot in a totally empty tent. (And that wouldn't bother me at all.... it's just you guys talking about headlining and playing main stage are nuts).
Seriously, I will be surprised if these guys are still getting along by April 2013. We'll see.
in the UK, i am NOT overestimating their draw, but in the US, probably. but i highly doubt, even if TSR are courted to play coachella, will they agree to anything less than the mainstage. if not, then fuck 'em - they'll just stick to UK festivals.
At my most optimistic I see SR in the MBV or The Specials type billing/draw. Acts with about an album or so of well regarded material from the past. DFA79 are in a similar boat. Different being those 3 acts are musically relevant to current US music whereas I don't see that with SR.
Please explain the musical relevance in the US? The band or solo stuff never did more than club business stateside. Not even much in Canada which has closer ties to the UK music scene.
I'm still left looking for evidence SR would draw big numbers at Coachella or have some huge pent up demand like Pixies.
i do love the stone roses - but i guess i'm not the norm as an american.
and i've had somewhat frisky discourses with my wife, who is a HUGE duran duran fan that they got what they deserved for turning out mediocrity from thank you to red carpet massacre. i'm including the platinum selling astronaut - because, well... it just doesn't have "it" either.
but yeah, you are right - D2 has still sold like 100 million albums worldwide over their career. they are definitely in a different echelon than the stone roses.
I'll reiterate it, we're not saying these things because we don't like the Stone Roses or don't WANT them to play to a great reception at Coachella. I just think that most of us fans tend to over-state their popularity and importance based on how much we love them and how widely loved they SHOULD be.