Also, this thread lacks many of the basics. Let me change that.
You guys should really check out GSTS. They are a post-hardcore band from Vancouver. They just finished recording their first full length and it will be released in May.
Go to their bandcamp page and check out their single here: http://gyestyes.bandcamp.com/
I think a lot of you guys will dig them. I have listened to whole album and it is fantastic.
Man I am having such a flood of memories of bands I haven't listened to in ages
São Paulo's Ratos de Porão
Asti, italy's Cripple Bastards (although they're technically grindcore)
can we please just talk about the pink elephant in the room...
I had a friend who used to poll every punk kid we met with the following question:
Black Flag, Minor Threat or Bad Brains? Which band was the best early hardcore band (for this, he'd say ignore everything after Damaged by Black Flag and only look at the short and hard Bad Brains stuff).
I think it's Black Flag. Bad Brains and Minor Threat were better musically, but Black Flag's old recordings sound so raw and aggressive and force you to feel every note. "Depression" or "Room 13" with Keith or Henry singing is as hardcore as it'll ever be, IMO.
i like black flag and minor threat so equally. hard to choose.
This ain't no middle of the mall shit.
for me, minor threat set the tone from very early on. i played in a dingy little punk band that essentially started doing gigs and was only able to fill up a set by playing 3 covers of them.
these days though i find myself appreciating black flag in a way that i never could back then. intriguing question but i've guess i've never been a fan of making definitive calls like that. its all too good!
Another really good recent post hardcore band is Castevet. Their The Echo & the Light was one of my favorite albums of last year
Also, Metroplex put out a really solid posthardcore album in 2009 that you can stream or buy here:
Bad Brains probably made the best music just in terms of song structure and tone. Minor Threat definitely had the most talent (Ian MacKaye, Brian Baker).
Thread ruiner alert.
Song was the jam though.
oh, and to echo MBs bad religion sentiments
I wore out Daughters Canada Songs in my car back when it came out.
*based upon tedious fact checking.
I always chose Minor Threat, he always chose Black Flag. I love all three, but Minor Threat have the great benefit of not having released a single bad song. Neither Black Flag nor Bad Brains get to claim that. Also, poor Black Flag got so blunted by the Unicorn debacle.
Also, how is it possible that the guitarist from Daughters is in Fang Island?
*based upon tedious fact checking.
Someone want to provide me with good list of your favorite 90s/early 2000s hardcore albums/singles comps/eps? I'm intimately versed in 80s, but 90s onward is mostly a dark void. I know the post-hardcore stuff very well and skate punk and some crust and all that.
it was pretty hard not to wear out canada songs. id put it in and it would be finished by the time i was pulling out of my neighborhood.
i didn't know that was the case either. i kinda assumed they all died.
And thinking about Earth Crisis got me thinking about 18 Visions, who I thought were mostly horrible, but i really liked this song
And Remembering Never's Women and Children Die First album, which seems a bit embarrassing now, but i still listen to it. It's pretty much breakdowns the entire songs, but it's brutal as fuck.
And of course, Living Sacrifice, arguably the original purveyors of the modern Christian hardcore scene. I really like these guys too though
Funny enough I once told my buddy, their guitarist, some of their stuff remind of Refused and he got legitimately upset. He fucking hates Refused.
The 90's had so many breakoff scenes with so many good bands that it's tough to paint a picture of the decade. The Epitaph scene definitely blew up the biggest and got the most national recognition after the Offspring sold a million records and the critics shit their pants for Rancid's ...And Out Come The Wolves. There was a huge militant straight edge scene that had smatterings of veganism and krishna throughout - Earth Crisis and 108 are definitely my favorites from that group. SoCal skate punk like the Vandals, Ignite, 98 Mute, and Pennywise was always huge where I grew up. Then you had smaller scenes for powerviolence, grind and hardcore really brewing with bands like Infest forming at the end of the 80's.
Hey Drinkey - remember that a lot of people who've never heard this kinda music will read this thread. You just blew our only chance to remove 18 Visions and that entire shitty ass OC fashioncore scene from history. I would gladly trade the one band I liked (Bleeding Through's Portrait of a Goddess is basically a death/black metal album made for moshing instead of smoking weed and being glum) to wipe that shit off the planet.
Those were the same kids who were wearing JNCO pants, Krishna beads and Xing up in the 90's. OC was loaded with rich kids that could afford to change scenes at the drop of a hat.