I have been asked on many occasions how I produced my present line of silvers

[Still-ill]

Why do you guys have to bicker in these cat threads? To be honest, Persian Nose Shave Guy isn't going to come back if you don't stop bickering.

[ShameintheName]

CH Missionhill Celestial Triumph appears to be a bad result (runt?) in an otherwise stellar line. How do you account for this?

Sigh... it happens. Not even Demi Moore and Bruce Willis were a lock for a good looking offspring.

[bobert]

Any tips on breeding white humans?

[emtgreg]

High readability.

Would re-read, would recommend to friends.

if I had any.

Besides my cats.

[emtgreg]

My wonderful, wonderful cats.

[fiopadp7791]

Pfft... I can kinda relate to this, but with a different animal-
When horses win like these did, whether their bloodlines were good or not, these horses are the ones that become the popular sires... at least for 5 years (only 5 if their 1st 2 or 3 crops of offspring don't perform well at the track)... but with success a sire could have a huge stud fee for 20-30 years and be a sire of other great sires).
http://www.pedigreequery.com/smarty+jones

Smarty Jones was not very well-bred. His father had a marginal career at the track, and was a middling sire with marginal bloodlines. Smarty "overcame" his breeding and was a freak of nature on the track. Both him and his father (Elusive Quality) demand high stud fees now. Smarty Jones' 1st few crops have been hit or miss, but he's thrown some graded stakes winners.

or this famous lady
http://www.pedigreequery.com/zenyatta

Zenyatta will be a well sought after Broodmare, and is at Lanes End Farm where 2 of the most expensive/successful/sought after sires stand. It wasn't just the crazy winning streak, and coming within a head of retiring undefeated and setting a world record for consecutive victories, she is also well bred.


or this old timer
http://www.pedigreequery.com/seabiscuit

If you guys have read the book Seabiscuit, his bloodlines are well explained. He was well-bred, and didn't display the fiery temper of his sire. But unfortunately his bloodlines weren't passed on very well. As was explained in the book, Charles Howard (his owner) retired him to his rural Northern California ranch. Most of the premiere broodmares were out east, and Howard just wanted the Biscuit to have a peaceful retirement. He was paired with a few California mares, but few meaningful offspring were produced. His bloodlines unfortunately didn't reach past a generation or 2. Almost like John Henry or Funny Cide who are accomplished geldings, or Cigar or Ferdiand who were proven to be infertile- it's too bad that their bloodlines still don't pass along in some way today (Ferdinand's do to a very limited extent).

or the best horse I've seen in the last decade-
http://www.pedigreequery.com/ghostzapper
(fast forward to about 2:00)
I mean in the race above he beat Kentucky Derby/Preakness champ Funny Cide, Birdstone (who beat Smarty Jones in the Belmont and cost Smarty the 1st Triple Crown in like 25 years at the time), Pleasantly Perfect (the Race winner the year before, and undefeated in the same year of the race), and Azeri (probably the best female dirt horse beside Zenyatta, Ruffian or Rachel Alexandra I've ever seen) and did it under 2:00 (ridiculously fast).

Ghostzapper is a 3rd generation world champion. His daddy was Awesome Again who also won the Breeder's Cup Classic. Ghostzapper's grandpa was AP INDY, who still has an insanely high stud fee due to winning the Breeder's Cup Classic and producing countless winners and other successful studs (and Grandpa will probably also make some babies with Zenyatta). So Ghostzapper has insanely good bloodlines, won himself, and has produced many winners in his 1st few crops to race. He will be a premiere sire for many years.

[BROKENDOLL]

Shameinthename has a lot of fucking cats.

[ShameintheName]

My wonderful, wonderful cats.

What breed?

[fiopadp7791]

Sorry, I'll just hi-jack this thread one more time: And then I'll leave this thread alone to the kitty pedigrees:


http://www.pedigreequery.com/cigar2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigar_%28horse%29

One of the most famous blunders in horse breeding history was Cigar. He made huge news in the mid 90s due to his consecutive wins streak. Cigar was actually the horse who really got me into horse racing. Watching him annihilate the competition for almost 3 years in a row when I was in my early teens was something that captured my attention to the sport.
He won 16 consecutive races over a 2 year span, and retired at the time as the world record money earner (passed by Curlin a few years ago).

Cigar was well-bred. His daddy was a world champion turf horse, and eventhough his mama never won in her short racing career, her daddy was Triple Crown winner Seattle Slew.

Cigar was a late developer- He didn't start his tear through horse racing until late in his 4-year old season. He was unraced at 2 (the 1st year horses can race) and was mainly put on the turf with limited success at 3. At 4 he got a trainer switch (Hall of Famer Bill Mott) and was switched to the dirt where his career took off.

Per Wikipedia-

Retirement
Cigar was retired to stud at the end of the 1996 racing season by celebrity Bill Cosby. Ceremonies took place during the National Horse Show at Madison Square Garden to honor the horse.

Paulson (his owner) sold 75% of Cigar to Coolmore Stud and Michael Tabor, and this equated to a value of $25 million for him. He was taken to stand at the Ashford Stud, the American division of Coolmore Stud and began his coverings there in February. Cigar proved infertile as a stallion after twenty of his thirty-six mares returned negative pregnancy tests.

So Coolmore Stud (one of the more respected high-end stud operations still to this day) paid $25million to find out he shoots blanks lol. He was insured, so they got the money back, and the original owner of the horse ended up buying him back, but still... wow. It's actually too bad that his bloodlines couldn't be passed on as well.

Sorry, back to the kitty talk.

[PotVsKtl]

[TickleMeElmo]

[rskapcat]

I love this thread.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

I feel like it's been too long since this thread came around.

[rage patton]

Holy shit I missed this thread the first time it came around. I was laughing far too hard reading through that first post. Also this...

You don't want one with runny/goopy eyes, a mild temperament, and a meow that is more often than not in the key of C.

is gold.

[amyzzz]

oh my god I want banana cat.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]