best album ever
Kid A by Radiohead
Remain In Light by the Talking Heads
Daydream Nation by Sonic Youth
Doolittle by The Pixies
Purple Rain by Prince
Nevermind by Nirvana
Loveless by My Bloody Valentine
Stankonia by Outkast
Silent Shout by The Knife
Other (See flame below)
best album ever
Lollapalooza: 8/1 @ Grant Park
Riot Fest: 9/11-13 @ Douglas Park
the specials self titled best album of 1979
but when you say plus a couple, there really are so many more records that could possibly be added.
Well, now, hey! Art is subjective and everyone deserves not to be called a retard for having a personal opinion. If London Calling moves any of you soo much that you must call it the best album of all time then hey, congratulations, you have a personal taste!
If we were to objectify the albums originality and artistry and put it up to say Aeroplane Over The Sea or Loveless I'm afraid London Calling goes the way of Never Mind The Bollocks or any other ratty punk album that only speaks to a very specific aesthetic that managed to lock itself inside its own room almost upon conception.
On a separate subject; the Ramones captured the punk attitude by showing that they had no purpose other than to sniff some glue, where the clash actually took themselves seriously and in affect missed the point of punk expression altogether. So the clash aren't really a punk band and that is totally fine.
IMHO...a band like Television is infinitely more interesting then the clash, but you all know very well that you cant exactly drive to it.
Last edited by BayAreaIsBetter; 06-08-2010 at 11:54 AM.
New socks. new lint. still smarter than you.
In my living room are eight Steve Keene album cover pieces, including London Calling, In the Aeroplane Over the Sea and Marquee Moon. I'm also a big fan of Loveless, and while I prefer the first two PiL albums, also quite adore Never Mind the Bollocks... I point this out to illustrate that I'm not attracted solely to "a very specific aesthetic that managed to lock itself inside its own room almost upon conception," and also in a smaller way to prove I'm way cooler than you.
Kidding about that last part.
I would argue, of course, that London Calling by its vast stylistic ambitions (well-realized ambitions) is exactly the opposite of what you claim it to be, and add that in a very broad way, Television took themselves every bit as seriously as the Clash ever did. Verlaine and his confederates did so through grandiose artistic gestures rather than politics, but there's a definite artsy-fartsy muso vibe about the band that "in affect (sic) missed the point of punk expression altogether. So (Television) aren't really a punk band and that is totally fine."
I won't deride you for not digging London Calling, though I might pity your ears a bit.
Furthermore, while the Ramones are one of my all-time favorite bands, I don't think Johnny's business(military)like approach to running their career was terribly punk, either.
Last edited by BayAreaIsBetter; 06-08-2010 at 03:33 PM.
The Ramones were pretty much by-the-numbers in their approach (brilliant as it was), but they were just as punk as anyone else. Outside of having a semi-accepted base of operations the world incorrectly viewed as some sort of degenerate Monkees clubhouse, many of those NYC bands had little in common, from the music itself to the way they lived their lives and viewed the world. There is no punk aesthetic, believe me. And I know that because I got it straight from one of the original NYC punks.
Remain in Light, mofos
London Calling ≠ greatest album ever
Says drunk Charles Bukowski
Not saying that they're better, but I would have liked to have seen these on the list:
Depeche Mode - Violator
Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
Spaceman 3 - The Perfect Perscription
Beck - Odelay
White Stripes - Elephant
Probably not list worthy, but other great albums:
Phish - Hoist (eat it!)
The Beta Band - Three EPs
Snoop Dogg - Doggy Style
Last edited by Undies; 06-09-2010 at 04:12 PM.