# Thread: Official Confirmed Artists for 2010

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Originally Posted by somebodytoldme
Yeah but there's people like my friend who watched Spoon but I know he doesn't like them at all and went only to see Phoenix and Passion Pit. We need more data to straighten out the other variables. Until then, no one wins this mathematical battle.
For once, you're right. The data are inconclusive. We would need to know who was there for Phoenix, but stayed for Spoon.

But I'm arguing based on the 25%. You know, an actual number for our purposes. You're arguing based on assumptions. Therefore, you're the asshole.

I win.

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Originally Posted by TommyboyUNM
Hey somebodytoldme, I have a hypothetical question/scenario for you. Ready?

50,000 people go to see Radiohead and the opener is Liars. 3 of those people have to leave before Radiohead goes on because of emergencies. So that means 50,000 people saw Liars and 49,997 people saw Radiohead. Does this mean more people were there because of Liars than Radiohead? By your logic, it does.
Yes, it does, because it shows that 50,000 people made the conscious decision to arrive at the seated venue early enough to watch Liars entire set. If they had no desire to see Liars, then they would have arrived later on into their set or just before Radiohead went on.

Edit: If 3 people left for emergencies, it still doesn't change the story that 50,000 were there for Liars vs 49,997 for Radiohead. Numbers are numbers, and the majority is equal to whichever number is greater during the act performing at the time.

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Originally Posted by hawkingvsreeve
Their latest is Blue Record, and it is quite good.
Listening to it now and it's shredding.

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Originally Posted by TommyboyUNM

But I'm arguing based on the 25%. You know, an actual number for our purposes. You're arguing based on assumptions. Therefore, you're the asshole.

I win.
Congratulations, you will now go onto the next round to face the winner of the "the" vs. "optional the" argument.

5. ## Re: Official Confirmed Artists for 2010

Originally Posted by somebodytoldme
Yes, it does, because it shows that 50,000 people made the conscious decision to arrive at the seated venue early enough to watch Liars entire set. If they had no desire to see Liars, then they would have arrived later on into their set or just before Radiohead went on.

Edit: If 3 people left for emergencies, it still doesn't change the story that 50,000 were there for Liars vs 49,997 for Radiohead. Numbers are numbers, and the majority is equal to whichever number is greater during the act performing at the time.
You're completely excluding other reasons people may show up early.

Maybe they just like seeing concerts. Maybe they wanted better seats. Maybe they were bored.

There's no guarantee that because people show up early for a show which has an opening act that they have any idea who the fucking opening act is and to say that they showed up for that act makes you (1) a complete piece of shit and (2) I hate your guts.

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I think the PBJ slot sounds about right, but Phoenix is pretty widely popular right now especially because their song(s?) have been used in commercials.

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Originally Posted by somebodytoldme
Yes, it does, because it shows that 50,000 people made the conscious decision to arrive at the seated venue early enough to watch Liars entire set. If they had no desire to see Liars, then they would have arrived later on into their set or just before Radiohead went on.
They made the conscious decision to see Liars, yes, but that doesn't mean they were there primarily because of Liars. There are too many unknowns in that case. The most reliable way to know if someone was just there for the opener is if they leave right after the opener. Like the 25% that apparently left after Phoenix and before Spoon.

As a byproduct of your logic, you're ignoring people (in this hypothetical) who may have consciously watched Liars, but were there primarily for Radiohead.

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Originally Posted by malcolmjamalawesome
You're completely excluding other reasons people may show up early.

Maybe they just like seeing concerts. Maybe they wanted better seats. Maybe they were bored.

There's no guarantee that because people show up early for a show which has an opening act that they have any idea who the fucking opening act is and to say that they showed up for that act makes you (1) a complete piece of shit and (2) I hate your guts.
Like I said before, too many outside variables that we don't know about to make a black and white decision over! Let it go, Malcolm in the Middle!

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Well yeah, but if you're going to err on one side, it's that most of the people are there for the actual main act. You're just being a shit about this.

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Pheonix --> MGMT --> Muse will suck manatee scrotum.

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woaah! people are going crazyyyyy.... Phoenix is big but not sub/main big, probably get billed on the outdoor w/ the respect for what theyve been able to draw lately. like Rage mentioned, nothing before dark.

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MGMT should not play any more shows anywhere until they write a new album, one that's actually good all the way through. They've been festival whores for two years straight. Enough is enough.

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Why do we even think these fucks are playing?

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I don't know but I really hope they don't. They were absolutely terrible at Bonnaroo. Their live show has gone steadily downhill and with nothing new even out, I can only imagine what a trainwreck a set from them at Coachella would be like.

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Originally Posted by yeahfontaine
I don't know but I really hope they don't. They were absolutely terrible at Bonnaroo. Their live show has gone steadily downhill and with nothing new even out, I can only imagine what a trainwreck a set from them at Coachella would be like.
Wait... Phoenix or MGMT?

If Phoenix I couldn't disagree more. They blew me away at Bonnaroo. So much fun.

If you are talking about MGMT, I couldn't agree more. *Shudder*

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Originally Posted by yeahfontaine
I don't know but I really hope they don't. They were absolutely terrible at Bonnaroo. Their live show has gone steadily downhill and with nothing new even out, I can only imagine what a trainwreck a set from them at Coachella would be like.
Probably what the trainwreck set at Bonnaroo was like.

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According to a trusted concert promoter here in Phoenix- The Big Pink, Girls, Vivian Girls, and Yeasayer are confirmed. You're welcome!

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Originally Posted by malcolmjamalawesome
Probably what the trainwreck set at Bonnaroo was like.
Good call. And yeah, RP, I meant MGMT.

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Just curious, why would a concert promoter in Phoenix know who is confirmed for Coachella?

Also, Yeasayer are my number 2 want for Coachella this year. That would make me happy.

Originally Posted by yeahfontaine
Good call. And yeah, RP, I meant MGMT.
Ok good. Yeah. Agreed.

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Originally Posted by rage patton
Just curious, why would a concert promoter in Phoenix know who is confirmed for Coachella?
Cause they have bookings in april for them and in that time frame.

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Originally Posted by yeahfontaine
I don't know but I really hope they don't. They were absolutely terrible both years at Bonnaroo. Their live show has gone steadily downhill and with nothing new even out, I can only imagine what a trainwreck a set from them at Coachella would be like.
fixed.

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The crowd went nuts for MGMT at APW, just sayin..

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He works with booking bands that tour around Coachella. Just like SF, Phoenix is a logical tour stop that weekend.

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Originally Posted by Blackvelvet
He works with booking bands that tour around Coachella. Just like SF, Phoenix is a logical tour stop that weekend.
so i'm assuming your friend works for stateside?

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Originally Posted by karma_guy
so i'm assuming your friend works for stateside?
No comment.

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Originally Posted by Blackvelvet
He works with booking bands that tour around Coachella. Just like SF, Phoenix is a logical tour stop that weekend.
He confirmed The Big Pink... but not APTBS? That is odd, considering they are touring together. And Vivian Girls would be an odd choice of a repeat act. Girls were a pretty safe bet, but its good to hear from a source. And Yeasayer... I would pretty much jump for joy if they were on the line up.

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Originally Posted by Blackvelvet
No comment.
so yes?
look i know most everyone who works for stateside here in tucson
along with the bookers for plush, congress and the rialto
so i'm wondering if i know your "friend"

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you might, but i don't want to cause any trouble!

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Originally Posted by rage patton
He confirmed The Big Pink... but not APTBS? That is odd, considering they are touring together. And Vivian Girls would be an odd choice of a repeat act. Girls were a pretty safe bet, but its good to hear from a source. And Yeasayer... I would pretty much jump for joy if they were on the line up.
Yeah he just rattled off some names, and these are the ones I remember. A Place to Bury Strangers may have been mentioned, but I don't recall..

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Karma, if you do know some of these people... I want a follow up on this. Please. And thank you.

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