Second highest score so far this year
Second highest score so far this year
Guessing theyre either waiting to give HTDA a Best New Music or Rhye is the only one today...
Will they wait till next week to review The New Day?
I'm guessing Next Day joins MBV in the 9+ club. Big week for BNM, YL (well deserved), Rhye, The Men (I can't imagine they won't give it to them), and Bowie next week.
Reznor's tweet about the review is hilarious
Whats with everyone believing a review above a 5.0 is a bad review?
Yeah last time I checked a 7.0 is pretty good.
Still a funny tweet from Trent though.
Fuck Trent for complaining about this, even using the term review in scare-quotes to rile up his cult. First, it's hardly as if they torched him with this review. Second, they've faithfully pimped his post-Fragile career with regular news coverage and generally positive reviews. It's not Pitchfork's fault that he made a mediocre side project album and then stepped all over it himself by announcing the return of NIN.
Maybe Trent figured that they would have assigned it to somebody that wouldnt be as bad in comparison to the Fragile reviewer. He also shouldnt just say anything about the high profile reviews that are coming. Why not just say thanks to everyone who bought the album and leave it be?
Last edited by suprefan; 03-06-2013 at 11:27 AM.
I enjoy Ian's writing tremendously, but Pitchfork is overextending him. He's writing far too many of their reviews, and far too many of the "big" releases as well, and the result is that their overall editorial viewpoint is more "samey" than it has ever been. They seem oddly understaffed right now.
I really dont get pitchfork. what are the parameters for bnm?
Last edited by swhite423; 03-07-2013 at 10:16 PM.
BNM is an editorial designation that is awarded distinct from the writer's album score:
Best New Music: Explained!
Q: How does Pitchfork's Best New Music system work? I've read reviews where two albums get a score of say 8.2, but one is BNM and the other isn't. --Aurora Nuncio
A: The truth of it is breathtakingly simple: Editors choose Best New Music albums based on the records that we think are the cream of the crop. These are excellent records that we feel transcend their scene and genre. When an album gets Best New Music, we think there's a very good chance that someone who doesn't generally follow this specific sphere of music will find a lot to enjoy in it.
Hey now, I like reading P4k reviews and articles as much as the next guy. The writing quality, organization, and professionalism are among the best on the interwebs. Probably the best. But sometimes I think we might be putting a little too much faith in P4k as the official doctrine for modern musical evaluation. As mentioned above, I also think Nick Cave has released one of the best albums so far this year, but P4k's progressive agenda will always outweigh any conservative proclivities that might be implied through a BNM tag. Understandably, though. I mean, they don't want to become the 21st-century Rolling Stone.
For sure. Not disagreeing with you or anything.
All's I'm saying is that the ratings and "best new whatevers" more so reflect the direction they desire than the actual quality of the music. As is any indie music site in this fragile blogosphere, they're perpetually in danger of sinking below the curve.
I'm pretty anti-Pitchfork overall. It seems like too many people see the scores before listening to an album, thus making it nearly impossible to listen to something for the first time objectively. I do, however, think they break/rank all kinds of different bands and albums that I otherwise might not hear about, so I do like them for that.
8.2 no BNM. Not sure if that's what you guys are alluding to with all of the chatter above, but just wanted to offically put this here. No way is Wondrous Bughouse even close to as good as New Moon.
Wonderous Bughouse is a fine record that through no fault of its own symbolizes everything that I've grown tired and bored of with contemporary indie. I feel like Beavis watching Pavement on MTV (at the point when Pavement's style of indie rock had officially played itself to death, irrespective of the fact that Wowee Zowee was itself incredible): "oh no, it's another one of these."