My favorite math teacher was in 7th grade....he was a cool short little balding dude, and he brought in his acoustic guitar a lot, and sometimes he would play for us. I remember him belting out a rendition of Come As You Are. It was great.
A few months back I was walking into Target wearing a Nirvana shirt and I saw him walking out and past me...he saw my Nirvana shirt and I think recognized me, but I didn't wanna stop and chat since he was with family and what not.
My balls itch.
The distance across my four fingers is 2.5 inches. assuming my balls are 1.5 inches in dia., how many passes will it take to cover the entire area?
He quit thinking.
SERIOUSLY.
i had such a hard time with math in school because of this and outdated textbooks from like 1964 that were so dry and used "real life" situations that had nothing to do with my life. not to mention i had a teacher in high school that refused to speak the number 8 and instead would say "ocho".
but when i came back to college, the books had changed for the better with more visual explanations & better real life examples; however the teachers were the same. they don't know the answer and then give really vague answers when you can't be vague with math. or they'd tell you that you "didn't need to know".
so i just worked out of the book and worked my ass off. i worked every problem i could find in there and got help when i needed it. that was the only way i understood and passed. unfortunately though i don't use it and have lost a lot of it. sometimes at work i have to be refreshed though and i can pick it up again. so to me it is also like a language in the sense that if you don't use it, you lose it rather quickly. someday i hope to reach higher levels of math. what's funny is my current math teacher (who is studying to be an actuary, guy knows his shit when it comes to math) says that foreign language is actually above math as far as difficulty, because at least math has logic to it.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that things don't need to be perceived to exist.
why do you keep typing "ect" when you mean "etc"? is this one of those internet things like "teh"?
and no of course not, there are false perceptions.
I may have misunderstood your question then.
I'm just saying perception of something does not by itself prove (or disprove) that thing's existence. I don't see anything controversial in that statement.
Last edited by TomAz; 02-12-2009 at 12:55 PM.
I'm glad you guys are having a nice little discussion here. I just needed to vent, I understand the importance of math I really do. It really is a kryptonite to me though. I just wish I didnt have to take any classes. And what is really bumming me out is the fact that the class im in now is the one right below first level college algebra. So after I pass this (assuming), I still have TWO more math credits to take. Its just so tough
Originally Posted by Wayne Coyne
Tom is right, Math is not a language. Languages have base rules too but unlike math, it has the ability to expand, contract or shift to the needs of it's users. Form class words can change, math is just a fixed set of laws.
it describes this part right here. ----->
...I think we are talking about the same things. but what I refer to as 'reality' you refer to as 'mathematics', and what I refer to as 'mathematics' you refer to as 'the perception of mathematics'. if you make that translation we seem to be saying the same exact thing.
I just refuse to refer to a human language as if it is independent of us. it's awfully big headed.
every mathematical system has a fixed set of premises and rules. and mathematicians spend forever learning the implications of those premises. they discover new properties (and prove suspected but previously unproven ones) all the time. math isn't static, we're contantly building upon what we know, and discovering new things. and that's never going to end. math is not just a fixed set of laws.
Are you familiar with proofs?
No, it was man's misunderstanding and misuse of applied math that led to that conclusion.
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