The easy solution is for Tom Tom and Superfan to forgot about San Francisco altogether and stay out of it. Everybody wins!
Outside Lands needs to figure out the transportation station for next year. That many people getting released into the streets at the same time was no deals.
And a dance tent always makes everything better
the more i thought about it, the best bet is for all these groups to ditch downtown san francisco and gv to ditch APW and try to find a spot outside the area like coachella does and bonnaroo. it just seems like they want too much dough and its easier and probably more cost effective to find something outside the main market....
main reason i say this is im in sacramento so bring that shit out here and set up a bonnaroo type thing! lol its a pipedream!!
I'm happy to give OSL a second chance. though generally I'm in favor of festivals that are far from anywhere, where people need to make an effort to get there.
You are right about Beck. I know the promoters recognize(d) that even before it happened. There was probably something artist-related involved with that one.
Jon, you're blazed again.
Alright well now I'm just really confused. Because Beck did NOT conflict with Radiohead. He clearly ended 10 minutes before they started. And as a result I saw all of both, which was perfect, (for me anyway).
Are you just talking about the bottleneck between the two stages? What does that have to do with scheduling? I understand the whole bit about everyone and their mother wanting to go from Beck to Radiohead and thus making things very crowded in between, but that has to do with the layout, which I agree was pretty flawed in that area...... (lucky for me I hopped the fence and went through the trees, never had to deal with it).
Or is there some other example of horrible scheduling at OSL that you or someone else would like to point out to me? Because my recollection has come up short.
For the record, yeah, Vegoose was pretty lame with Public Enemy and Cypress Hill. Kinda silly really.
But actually, Vegoose 07 (for which I unfortuantely only went to Saturday) holds my personal record for largest percentage of bands seen in one day, which is all but one (Atmosphere, who I did not really like at the time, but now regret). So in other words, scheduling for that day was otherwise great.
The problem with this years Outside Lands and the reason I did not go is it conflicted with the SUnset Street Junction in East Hollywood. I am sure others would have went to OSL, but went to Sunset Junction again. Sunset Junction has been a tradition since it started in 1980, when it used to be free or "donation requested."
Sunset Street Junction has such a diverse and colorful scene, even if many of the bands are not that good. It would be L.A.s best music festival, but I think the Detour Festival now has the top spot. I missed the free Make Music show in Pasadena, and I heard great things about it.
Coachella and Bonnaroo always do the best with scheduling which is one of the many reasons why those are the two best festivals in the country. Lolla has the worst conflicts.
I would like to go to Sunset Junction someday and I hope the two don't conflict again next year. Of course, my favorite band on the planet, Broken Social Scene, played this year, so that would have been amazing in itself... but they were also at OSL so the decision was easy to make.
I saw 2007's lineup and it was surprisingly great too. Seems like an overall good time. I really like fests in the streets....... hell, almost as much them polo fields.
You didn't miss anything. BSS completely blew at sunset junction, mostly due to serious sound issues.
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But the only positive is they tell you months in advance. I was literally planning on going this year, but I had heard the rumors, so I decided to wait on my tickets/reservations till I saw the schedule for myself... sure enough, of the 6 major bands I wanted to see, 4 conflicted perfectly end-to-end (Battles vs. BSS, Rage vs. Wilco). So I said eff that. Hopefully next year!
Sunset Junction is a great festival. The lineup this year was really good, it's a shame it conflicted with Radiohead @ The Hollywood Bowl or I would have gone. Also the passing of Mr. Isaac Hayes (the headliner) right before the fest was deeply saddening.
They were great.
They're really not so special live though. I have always considered them an albums band. Or a "headphones band" if you will. It doesn't always translate the best live.
I started crying during OSL though hahaha... which I hadn't done since I was like 12... I think its an unhealthy addicition to them.
I still think they're pretty good live, its just that I have waaaaaay too high of expectations, all my 2nd and 3rd and 4th favorite bands are really really amazing live, (and that is why I love them), so its strange that the one I love more than anything else is just kinda... normal.
They're very enthusiastic though, and that's probably the most important trait of all in a live band. They go out of their way to make each show special.
Did anyone else see Bon Iver at OL? I thought he killed it. I didn't get to watch much, but man was he good.
Wilco, too, was on a whole different level. Top 5 performance of the year for me.
The Mars Volta (I know I know flame all ya want), My Morning Jacket, The White Stripes, Arcade Fire, and Animal Collective. And the last one's not especially incredible live, but still great.