Any of you guys able to figure who the special guest is?
when I google search the naked and famous, the little band bio that google shows describes them as a "New Zealand post-punk revival band from Auckland".
listening to them, is this really what post-punk revival means? maybe New Zealand had a unique kind of post-punk that is being revived here...
New Zealand post-punk, in general, was better than UK or US post-punk. One man's opinion, but their post punk took the Joy Division sound to extremes or invented lo-fi guitar pop. So unless the Naked and Famous are an awesome act repping the Clean, the Chills, This Kind of Punishment, the Dead C or their ilk, they can fuck themselves in their ignorant asses.
to be fair, it's google that calls them that. I'm not sure whether the band make such a claim.
It says that on Wikipedia as well, along with synthpop and indie.
Ahh, well, at least initially New Wave was considered in the same vein as Post-Punk, as that Simon Reynolds book, Rip it Up and Start Again, readily illustrates. But yeah, there's no blaming New Zealand for them, as their independent music scene is much better than that.
To the point that i personally distinguish New Wave and synthpop as 2 different things, which started when someone described Joe Jackson's "I'm The Man" as new wave.
I actually like The Naked and The Famous, though this resembles post punk in no way, shape, nor form (though it's a fucking catchy song)
It's HIGHLY possible they have earlier work that we haven't been exposed to that is "post punk revival" though, and they ended up totally changing their sound.
I mean, if you look at Killing Joke's wikipedia, the first thing it says is "Killing Joke are an English post-punk band formed in October 1978 in Notting Hill, London, England," and they have albums that are as far removed from post punk as this (and it's shown as such in the wiki genre colum: Post-punk, gothic rock, electronic, industrial, industrial rock,industrial metal).
Man, sometimes i forget how actually amazing Jawbreaker was, and then I listen to some Jawbreaker, and I'm like...."OH YEAH they were legitimately amazing."
discussion about defining new wave a few months ago.
The post punk label is difficult because it overlaps the period of "new wave" as distinct from the largely synth-based stuff that followed it (which people also call "new wave" as well). I mean, I say Elvis Costello and Talking Heads are new wave, and Wire and Gang of Four are post punk, and that distinction sounds right, but I have no idea why.
So I found this gem from the 80's the other day. The rest of the album isn't as good but this song DESERVES A LISTEN. Pure psych bliss
1. Motown influenced pop
2. Dissonant atonal noise.
Axiom 2: Early NYC punk and the music associated with it developed in 3 distinct sounds:
1. The accessibly modern themes of Harry Toledo, Blondie, Shirts, probably beginning with Talking Heads '77
2. The garage and hardcore sounds of the Ramons, Heartbreakers etc.
3. The grandiose experimentalism of Television, Patti Smith etc.
Axiom 3: Post-Punk, New Wave, and No Wave are all valid and distinguishable terms, each taking a greater influence from one of earlier sounds than the others.
I not know, I took a shot
Sonic Youth, Half Jananese <- DNA, Teenage Jesus, Theoretical Girls <- Suicide -> Talking Heads -> Echo and the Bunnymen
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Fuck Death Grips.
I've not ever considered myself much a fan of their stuff, but they've squandered any good will I may have had for them with a year's worth of childish behavior, first with their label and then with their fans. The label thing wasn't punk rock; it was just stupid. What's even more stupid is just not showing up to a show that your fans paid for and that you booked. Or cancelling a tour because you want to record another album. Pricks.
I'm so used to listening to the Beach Boys from Pet Sounds onward, and it's been so entertaining and joyful listening to Endless Summer tonight, as inspired by "Help Me, Rhonda" playing over the closing credits of Mud, which people should watch.
Dolly Parton's "Jolene" slowed down to 33 rpm:
The VMA'S don't seem to be pushing DP very much. I am sort of surprised... cr*****
Have Another Hit Of Colorado Sunshine
This whole, "We wouldn't be shit without the fans," is total artistic submission. They wouldn't be rich and doing good blow without the fans. They'd have to work, like the fans, and create more opportunity for fans to become someone without the fans. Do you see what I'm getting at here? Your war cry is sounding a lot like, "Fuck Artists! I want a show regardless!," when, if you were any kind of fan of art itself, you would realize the potential of the move... but what do I know, right?
I learned one thing from the VMAs.
If you hate Steely Dan yet have no problem with this Mayer Hawthorne song, you're a damn hypocrite.
favorite/best EP's of all time... go.
Mine is MBV's You Made Me Realise EP
9/22 The Mekons @ Pappy & Harriet's
We have an entire thread for that, but it's really hard to search for: http://www.coachella.com/forum/showt...ur-favorite-EP
I'm not sure how many of you guys listen to poscasts but Wtf with Marc Maron has had some pretty cool music guests and he always does good interviews. Recently, he's had MJK, Thom Yorke, and Nick Cave among others. Just throwing that out there in case anyone is interested.
Certain songs they get so scratched into our souls
It sort of sounds like the guy who finds himself friendless, and then curses everyone for it. It is what it is, guys. If you immediately call everything trash, then everything will start looking like trash.
I listened to the Nick Cave and Iggy Pop ones, they were pretty good. I've been meaning to really dig into his back episodes, but it's a huge collection and not all of them are available for free, although a lot of them can be dug up various places.
The Louis CK one is pretty great. I believe it's on youtube, along with the Conan, Judd Apatow, Andy Dick, Chris Rock, Bill Lawerence, Fiona Apple episodes which i would recommend. The Michael Ian Black ones are fun to listen to just to hear them dig at each other. But, really, not many bad ones.
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