Own 'em. Go sue happy NRA. I support you.
Own 'em. Go sue happy NRA. I support you.
i was waiting for the gun show jokes. haha.
this is never going to end.
they're going to have to pry the gun from heston's cold, dead hands...for reals now.
I'd really like to know how many people have died in this country to an American handgun. Definitely hundreds, possibly thousands. Thanks for that, NRA, real bang-up job you've been doing.
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
there would be far less murders if there wasn't such a proliferation of guns because most of the people doing the killing are cowards and wouldn't have the balls to walk up and kill someone with their hands.
Guns don't kill people. People with guns and moustaches kill people.
The only guns in my world is my name.
Although rare, people have been killed from the other person kicking them and punching them with their bare fists.
very true. my brother went to jail for a similar situation. kid was in a coma for 2 weeks. luckily he didnt die. they were waiting to see if they were gonna charge them all with murder, or attempted murder. no weapons involved at all.
Are we really going to have this conversation? I sort of thought we were smarter than that.
Guns do kill people. That's pretty much their singular purpose. Sure, there are exceptions. Hunting, paintball, and the occasional squirtgun. But the main purpose of a gun is to efficiently end someone else's life, or at least maim them significantly. Of course people commit crimes without them. But no matter how adept I am at wielding a machete or how trained I am in some ancient martial art, I can't use those things to spontaneously kill thirty people in a matter of minutes from a clock tower because my wife left me and I stopped taking my meds.
[P]er capita murder overall is only half as frequent in the United States as in several other nations where gun murder is rarer, but murder by strangling, stabbing, or beating is much more frequent. (p. 663 - emphases in original)This all comes from a recent Harvard study.The findings of two criminologists - Prof. Don Kates and Prof. Gary Mauser - in their exhaustive study of American and European gun laws and violence rates, are telling:
Nations with stringent anti-gun laws generally have substantially higher murder rates than those that do not. The study found that the nine European nations with the lowest rates of gun ownership (5,000 or fewer guns per 100,000 population) have a combined murder rate three times higher than that of the nine nations with the highest rates of gun ownership (at least 15,000 guns per 100,000 population).
If you look at the murder rates of DC which had very strong anti-gun laws until yeterday, you see an INCREASE in murders from when the bans went into effect to now.
As an addendum to my previous post, I would like to show my support for circus-sideshow knifethrowing as what should be the world's leading method of remote violence.
Okay. Yes, that's true. But you're talking about a well-trained person. The issue isn't whether or not people kill people with other methods. It's that guns are basically Murder for Dummies. Killing someone shouldn't be as easy as pressing the "on" button on a coffee maker.
ideally, killing someone shouldnt be an alternative.
I'm not trying to suggest that there aren't other ways to kill people. just that other ways of killing people aren't as easy as shooting them. it takes more effort & determination. and I think that would reduce the murder rate. some people will still kill, no doubt. I just think it would be fewer.
I'm a little confused about that harvard study -- why are they comparing the combined murder rate of three countries with the murder rate of nine other countries? was the rate of the nine other countries combined? still, interesting find.
I'm ambivalent about the whole thing. I don't want to live in a fascist state in which only the government and criminals get their hands on guns, but I don't like the idea of teenagers getting guns and killing children in schools. There should be more controls on who is allowed to own them I guess and more enforcement of those controls.
do you own one? you already have to jump through hoops to own a gun. especially in California.