Yeah it's fucked up what China's doing to Tibetans, but what are you gonna do?
I also think it's pretty fucked up for these protesters to want to boycott the Olympics and deny over a billion Chinese people the joy, pride, and honor of hosting that event just because they have too much time on their hands and think they actually care about human rights.
I hope you can't catch someone else's stupid from reading their posts.
My favorite part is, "Yeah it's fucked up what China's doing to Tibetans, but what are you gonna do?"
How can someone post this statement while simultaneously saying that protesting is unnecessary? Fucking priceless.
And you should learn some of your own history. Asian cultures have been fucking with each other since possibly before even western ones have.
How does a Korean not know that? Also I assume you're OK with asian history of subjugation of women or else you'd have considered that in your assessment of how progressive asia is.
Your little "butt out of asian affairs" thing is completely ridiculous. Asians have traditionally been isolationist, but if they want to enter into the world community they have to play by world community rules, douchebag. You can't have it both ways. We're talking a country housing 20% of the world's population who's only now starting to develop a middle class. What the fuck is wrong with you?
btw where are you sitting right now? US or Korea?
Last edited by jackstraw94086; 04-08-2008 at 01:30 PM.
Do a recap on the colonizations and invasions committed by western nations. No further explanations needed here. China's doing the same shit western nations have done in the past. It's hypocritical of these western countries to be criticizing China of their way of handling this situation when they've done far worse throughout their history.
Just worry about your own domestic problems and stay out of another country's internal affairs. How arrogant do you have to be to think you hold the measuring stick as to how a nation must behave in order to be accepted. Fucking ridiculous. It's anglo-centric bullshit.
And what does me living in either Korea or in the states have anything to do with the topic at hand? I understand you're trying to make me out to be an anti-American fuckwad, but seriously, the whereabouts of me isn't really relevant. But just to humor you, I live in Los Angeles and love America, but I also love Korea. I choose to live here because I grew up here.
Anyway, I just don't like hypocrites and these protesters are exactly that.
I don't have to recap western colonializations. That's not the fucking point. Whether you're torturing other people or your own people it's still fucked. Do you believe it's not OK for a man to beat someone else's wife but it's fine to beat his own? I mean why not? Other men have gotten away with beating their wives so why not one other particular man?
The Chinese have been at war with other Chinese since time immemorial. The Japanese were busy trying to build their own empire not too long ago.
And the fact that "world community rules" isn't obvious to you is exactly your problem. Everything is as simple as you as calling it "hipocritical".
Do you not sense any irony in that statement in light of your indictment of westerners for not knowing the difference between one asian and another? Asians are no different than white people, the difference is that they're not used to being scrutinized so closely.
You're not representing Asians very well. Good thing for Asians some of us don't generalize as you do.
And and btw, why don't you protest the protesters down in LA? You have the right to do that here you know.
Let's see you try it in China or North Korea.
Last edited by jackstraw94086; 04-08-2008 at 03:17 PM.
In other news, Japan doesn't want to bring immigrants in their country to make up for when their elderly workers leave the workforce. Their solution--ROBOTS!
the busy bee has no time for sorrow.
George Carlin is so funny.
Head start? Left behind? Somebody is losing fucking ground here.
I am not sure if you are aware of this, but your post implies that you judge China's actions to be just and legal. I hope you are simply young and naive, because frankly, your attitude towards these events is absolutely frightening. I am reminded of Dick Cheney's "So?" response. While I agree that sometimes the world needs to stay out of each other's business, when we have situations like China and Tibet, we simply cannot just turn a blind eye and let innocent people be tortured and killed for wanting just a small percentage of the freedom you enjoy as an American.
I have to admit. Those protestors are bringing a lot of attention to the issue. You usually don't see that. Even ESPN is featuring the torch problems as a main story.
For your health
I enjoy seeing people bitch that its westerners that are doing the protesting, when its 90% Tibetans that are heading up the protesting.
dont think that was his point.
Tibetans are so hot right now.
I smell adoption.
To threaten to boycott the summer games and denying the pride and joy of a nation of a billion who have been working their ass off to prepare this event, is pretty fucking selfish, don't you think?
Refusal to trade with China would have been an acceptable threat(which would never fucking happen because the majority of the world relies on China to produce shoddy goods for them), but these fucking protesting douchebags with a deep seeded resentment towards China's development as a super power just likes the idea of placing a speed bump on the upcoming event. Most of them couldn't care less about human rights. It's self-righteousness at its most indulgent.
What's with the "you're not representing Asians very well" comment? I'm representing myself and myself only. What, just because I'm Asian, I have to be representative of "my people"
Give me a kit kat break. Go make plans for burning man you faux-liberal racist douchebag.
And if you didn't get the obvious point there, just be sure to stop quoting history. You haven't learned any.
Here's a question. If the Olympics where in the US this year and there were protests as the torch passed through Seoul would you think the same thing?
Last edited by jackstraw94086; 04-09-2008 at 10:28 AM.
Yeah while we are at it, let’s stop the criticism of the Armenian and Kurdish genocide. That Turkey's Business and who are we to tell them how to interpret the mass murder of an ethnic minorities, it's theirs alone and does not deserve attention on an international scale.
If Ankara hosted the Olympics to try and increase their international standing these issues would probably be at the top of the criticism. Every government which has participated in questionable and downright aggressive and immoral behavior must reveal the skeletons in the closet if they are to try and participate on an international scale.
...and Darfur...and Rwanda....and Bosnia....
the busy bee has no time for sorrow.
You're saying all of those colonists who have settled in the Americas had no fucking idea of the devastating atrocities committed by their fellow countrymen? Maybe not the ones still in Europe, but the hordes that immigrated to the Americas sure as hell participated and contributed to murdering the natives of an entire continent. Where were the protesters in the settlements?
Here's the deal: Injin man helps white man settle in the new world, Injin man turns his back, white man sticks a turkey baster up Injin man's ass. White people celebrate Thanksgiving to off-put the guilt their next generation would feel.
And the colonization of the Americas is just the tip of the iceberg. Just think of all of the horrific atrocities committed by western nations in the 20th century.
Before you put words into my mouth again, I'm not saying because western nations have committed horrible crimes against humanity, it's okay for China to do the same. The world can be an evil place. Horrible things happen that cannot be stopped. If these things were possible, we wouldn't need religion.
And don't make comments about my family. This is just two anonymous fucktards arguing on the fucking internet. If you want to make it personal than we should chit chat in Indio a few weeks from now. Ok?
Looking back at something which happened 200 years ago is a bit different to looking at the atrocities committed around the world today. In the 20th century we protested our own involvement in Vietnam, and foreign policy would eventually succumb to domestic outrage. At least during the 20th century we had to right to express dissent towards our government, and we've come to the understanding that those nations most prominent on the international arena receive the closest scrutiny, not just China.
Last edited by theburiedlife; 04-09-2008 at 10:47 AM.
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