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    The only major problems I have with American Hustle are in the first 20 minutes. After that it takes off. I understand if people didn't like the film as a whole, but I find it funny that some people feel they can only watch 20 minutes of a movie and deem it awful. Also, Captain Phillips is fine. It's exactly what you would expect it to be. Not great, but not bad. Tom Hanks turned in a great performance though.
    My problem with American Hustle is that it's a heist movie without a good heist... it's an Oscar-bait movie without much emotional pull... it's a period piece that reflects little of the era it takes place in... it's a character film where two of the main characters are impossible to root for... basically it's just not that great at anything it does. When I saw David O' Russell and that cast, and I sat down and started seeing his attempt at "Goodfellas", I strapped in for a great film. What I got was an okay and completely unnecessary movie. I loved The Fighter and really enjoyed the Eagles dance party movie, and the cast is awesome.. but this movie just LACKED.

    It really made me appreciate Scorcese's ability to jump from one type of film to another (within the same scope of degenerates) and still keep the characters interesting and the plot moving every single time. It made me want to rewatch stuff like Goodfellas and The Departed for how vital they felt compared to this. All the supporting actors were great, though. O' Russell can direct actors something fierce.

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    My problem with American Hustle is that it's a heist movie without a good heist... it's an Oscar-bait movie without much emotional pull... it's a period piece that reflects little of the era it takes place in... it's a character film where two of the main characters are impossible to root for... basically it's just not that great at anything it does. When I saw David O' Russell and that cast, and I sat down and started seeing his attempt at "Goodfellas", I strapped in for a great film. What I got was an okay and completely unnecessary movie. I loved The Fighter and really enjoyed the Eagles dance party movie, and the cast is awesome.. but this movie just LACKED.

    It really made me appreciate Scorcese's ability to jump from one type of film to another (within the same scope of degenerates) and still keep the characters interesting and the plot moving every single time. It made me want to rewatch stuff like Goodfellas and The Departed for how vital they felt compared to this. All the supporting actors were great, though. O' Russell can direct actors something fierce.
    If you haven't seen American Hustle don't read below as it may contain slight spoilers.

    See I don't really see it as a heist movie. Sure it has the look and feel of one, but to me it's more of a political satire. Might as well call Argo a heist movie as well, instead of a political thriller, or O'Russells own Three Kings simply a heist movie. As for the heist not being good in American Hustle, well it's based on true events. Even though they stretch the truth of those events a great deal I still don't think they need to make it any bigger than it actually is. I thought they did a good job giving the Abscam story some weight. What sold me on the movie was the Carmine Polito character and his relationship with Irving. While the moral of the story that may be interpreted from that relationship is suspect I think it gives Irvine's character a nice arc and someone to root for. On top of that I don't see the move as Oscar bait. Maybe because the performances are so great and characters rich, sure, but I don't believe the sole intention of the film is to garner awards. And as for the period, it's the late 70's. The movie is centered around the hustle, which was also one of the most popular dances at the time. It has disco dancing, fantastic clothing, crazy hairstyles, a good score and cocaine use. What more do you want from the time period?

    edit: oh, and your last note on Scorcese. I get that. Scorcese is certainly the greater filmmaker, but they are very different and O'Russell was clearly mimicking or paying homage to him with Hustle.
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    Watched Million Dollar Baby for the first time. Time to go drown in my tears.

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    Try listening, and knowing the back-story, to ‘Coney Island Baby’ if you want to cry.

    Actually, in American Hustle, made it just beyond the Amy Adams bathroom stall scene with her elevated ass (the only decent part of the movie), but really have no interest in seeing the rest of the film. I didn’t particularly care for Goodfellas either, so there’s that. But would like to get more into cartoon love story epics and hentai this year.
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    What was the better movie, Nebraska or Inside Llewyn Davis? I want to go see one of those tomorrow but have no clue which one.
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    What was the better movie, Nebraska or Inside Llewyn Davis? I want to go see one of those tomorrow but have no clue which one.
    I liked both of them, but Inside Llewyn Davis has stayed with me longer. It might be because I liked the music so much and continue listening to it. I would go see it again in the theater, and I can't say that I'd do that for Nebraska.
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    See both, but I agree with Bryce.
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    I watched Zulawski's Possession last night. Complete insanity. Some of the most impressive camera work I've ever seen, but I tend to have a hard time with films that are this insane, and this was no exception. Much like when Schoolio and I saw On the Silver Globe a few years ago, I definitely appreciated the work but had a hard time getting much out of it beyond that. Same goes for the two Greenaway films I've seen.
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    That movie is worth watching for Heinrich alone.
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    I watched Prisoners last night and I thought it started out so good but turned into the biggest mess. It had such a good premise though. I think the nearly 3 hour run-time didn't work in it's favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallGuyCM View Post
    I watched Zulawski's Possession last night. Complete insanity. Some of the most impressive camera work I've ever seen, but I tend to have a hard time with films that are this insane, and this was no exception. Much like when Schoolio and I saw On the Silver Globe a few years ago, I definitely appreciated the work but had a hard time getting much out of it beyond that. Same goes for the two Greenaway films I've seen.
    Where did you find this? I haven't seen any Zulawski yet, but all I can find on Netflix is On the Silver Globe.
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    Possession is insane. It was on YouTube a year or so ago, but no more. I'd be curious where you found it as well as I've searched for it on Netflix and Amazon Prime.
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    So I saw Inside Llewyn Davis the other day and I don't know what to think about it. I absolutely loved the soundtrack and it's probably going to be the first soundtrack for a movie I buy. The movie it self is probably going to have to require a second viewing to make a real opinion of it. While I liked the acting and the overall story I just didn't really like how nothing happens in the movie. I understand it was just a week in his life but I was hoping for something of significance to happen that either makes him better or worse off, not just ending the movie the way it started. It was still worth watching as I did quite enjoy it and was entertaining enough (which I know is contradicting what I previously said) but I really do need to watch it again in when it can be rented to really decide how I feel about it.
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    There's a great little noir from back in the day called The Naked City that expires on Netflix in a few days that I watched last night. Recommended if you're looking for something to watch this week.
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    ^ Sounds good.
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    I tried watching Captain Phillips over the weekend and fell asleep after Cpt leaves with the pirates. I tried watching the rest the next day and ended up pausing it at some point and never went back to finish it. I preferred A Hijacking which was more interesting and had much better acting. And talk about better acting, fucking Meryl Streep in August: Osage County was wow to watch. I can't wait to watch that movie again - it was at times hysterical and other times depressing. I don't care much for Julia Roberts but she manages to hold her own for the most part. The rest of the cast was great too, especially Chris Cooper.
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    Enough Said, James Gandolfini's last role and Julia Louis-Dreyfus's first film role, was a really nice piece. Nothing brilliant, but thoroughly watchable and a fairly original and thought-provoking take on self-destruction in relationships. Gotta admit, it made me a little wistful to see the big guy on screen for the last time. Glad it wasn't in a total piece of shit.

    In A World... was a moderately funny little indie piece about voice over actors all competing to replace the guy who coined the "In a world..." movie trailer voice over thing who died a couple years back. It was cute enough, only had a couple joke beats worth laughing at, but it's always kinda funny to watch people whose entire lives hinge on something that seems so utterly silly.
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    I preferred A Hijacking which was more interesting and had much better acting.
    Yeah. The whole negotiation basis of A Hijacking was so much more effective and tense than the action-based Captain Phillips, not to mention how the latter made the military look laughably cartoonish.
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    I watched Woody Allen's Blue Jasmine the other week and thought it was excellent - probably my favorite Allen film since Sweet and Lowdown. I don't know if any of you saw what Allen's son Ronin Farrow tweeted during the Golden Globes but needless to say it was pretty scathing.



    I was pretty young when that whole investigation took place and I think I conflated the molestation charges with his marriage to his other adopted daughter. After researching the case I'm fairly convinced that Allen is a pedophile. Now, with that belief in mind, should I have any moral obligations when it comes to a film like Blue Jasmine? Is it okay to love the art and even though I find the artist repulsive? Or is it just that attitude that has allowed him to remain a free man and possibly abuse other children? If I torrented Blue Jasmine and didn't support the film financially, am I off the hook? So many questions.

    I've had this conversation before in regards to Roman Polanski and I think it's a difficult issue. Lots of great art has been made by horrible human beings.

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    I watched Woody Allen's Blue Jasmine the other week and thought it was excellent - probably my favorite Allen film since Sweet and Lowdown. I don't know if any of you saw what Allen's son Ronin Farrow tweeted during the Golden Globes but needless to say it was pretty scathing.



    I was pretty young when that whole investigation took place and I think I conflated the molestation charges with his marriage to his other adopted daughter. After researching the case I'm fairly convinced that Allen is a pedophile. Now, with that belief in mind, should I have any moral obligations when it comes to a film like Blue Jasmine? Is it okay to love the art and even though I find the artist repulsive? Or is it just that attitude that has allowed him to remain a free man and possibly abuse other children? If I torrented Blue Jasmine and didn't support the film financially, am I off the hook? So many questions.

    I've had this conversation before in regards to Roman Polanski and I think it's a difficult issue. Lots of great art has been made by horrible human beings.
    The same can be said for Michael Jackson or Phil Spector or Bing Crosby, etc... Some people have a hard time seperating the artist from the person, but sometimes it's for the best, because a lot of screwed up people make some pretty great art.
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    Enough Said, James Gandolfini's last role and Julia Louis-Dreyfus's first film role, was a really nice piece. Nothing brilliant, but thoroughly watchable and a fairly original and thought-provoking take on self-destruction in relationships. Gotta admit, it made me a little wistful to see the big guy on screen for the last time. Glad it wasn't in a total piece of shit.

    In A World... was a moderately funny little indie piece about voice over actors all competing to replace the guy who coined the "In a world..." movie trailer voice over thing who died a couple years back. It was cute enough, only had a couple joke beats worth laughing at, but it's always kinda funny to watch people whose entire lives hinge on something that seems so utterly silly.

    I want to see both of these, but the main reason i am responding is that Julia Louis-Dreyfus has been in several movies, most notably to me is Woody Allen's Deconstructing Harry. She also has done voice over work in 2 Disney movies.
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    I was pretty young when that whole investigation took place and I think I conflated the molestation charges with his marriage to his other adopted daughter. After researching the case I'm fairly convinced that Allen is a pedophile.
    He maintained his innocence throughout, was never charged much less convicted criminally, a judge couldn't conclude that there was proof that he had done it for custody purposes in a civil court (in a context that required far less proof than proof beyond a reasonable doubt), there was no medical evidence that abuse had occurred, and a team of child abuse investigators cleared him after an exhaustive investigation. Also, the principle evidence against him at the time were videotaped allegations that were presented in a video that was recorded and edited by the other party in the custody proceedings. All of which is a world away from Polanski, who admitted to having had drug-fueled sex with an underage girl without her explicit consent, and who even plead guilty to charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroir Noir View Post
    He maintained his innocence throughout, was never charged much less convicted criminally, a judge couldn't conclude that there was proof that he had done it for custody purposes in a civil court (in a context that required far less proof than proof beyond a reasonable doubt), there was no medical evidence that abuse had occurred, and a team of child abuse investigators cleared him after an exhaustive investigation. Also, the principle evidence against him at the time were videotaped allegations that were presented in a video that was recorded and edited by the other party in the custody proceedings. All of which is a world away from Polanski, who admitted to having had drug-fueled sex with an underage girl without her explicit consent, and who even plead guilty to charges.
    I'm fully aware that Allen has maintained his innocence. I'm also aware that his adopted daughter has maintained her version of the story her entire life. The judge in the custody trial you mentioned characterized Allen's conduct with the child as "grossly inappropriate."

    EDIT: Also, the team of child abuse investigators you mention never even interviewed the little girl, declined to testify at trial except via deposition, and destroyed their notes on the case.

    The case came down to the word of a 7 year old girl versus that of a rich adult celebrity. At the time I think it's safe to characterize the relationship he had with his current wife as grossly inappropriate. Soon-Yi was 20 years old when Mia Farrow found the nude pictures that Allen took of her.

    Anyhow, this is not the conversation I was interested in having. We can shift to Polanski if you think that's a better example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drinkey McDrinkerstein View Post
    I want to see both of these, but the main reason i am responding is that Julia Louis-Dreyfus has been in several movies, most notably to me is Woody Allen's Deconstructing Harry. She also has done voice over work in 2 Disney movies.
    I meant to say her first good movie. And doing voice over work is not being in a movie.
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    I watched Woody Allen's Blue Jasmine the other week and thought it was excellent - probably my favorite Allen film since Sweet and Lowdown. I don't know if any of you saw what Frank Sinatra's son Ronan Farrow tweeted during the Golden Globes but needless to say it was pretty scathing.
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    It is striking how much Mia and Ronan are alike—the same porcelain skin, the same intense blue eyes, the same ability to perform. He was only 11 when he entered Bard College; Mia drove him back and forth nearly every day—90 minutes each way—for four years. Ronan is writing a book on America’s proxy wars, but he also writes songs and scripts. Mia sent me a tape of him belting out Stephen Sondheim’s “Not While I’m Around,” which she used to sing to the children, and his phrasing sounds eerily familiar. In August of last year, gossip columnist Liz Smith wrote that he had been in Los Angeles visiting Nancy Sinatra Jr. and “has caused the anti–Woody Allen contingent to point out that such a connection gives heft to the ongoing theory that Ronan is not the son from [Mia’s] relationship with Woody, but from her post-divorce romantics with the late Sinatra himself.”

    I asked Nancy Sinatra Jr. about Ronan’s being treated as if he were a member of their family, and she answered in an e-mail, “He is a big part of us, and we are blessed to have him in our lives.” She said of Mia, “From the early days until now, we have been like sisters. My mother is also very fond of her. We are family and will always be.”

    I asked Mia point-blank if Ronan was the son of Frank Sinatra. “Possibly,” she answered. (No DNA tests have been done.)

    Ronan attended Sinatra’s funeral, in 1998, with his mother, Nancy Sinatra Jr., and Nancy Sinatra Sr., who fusses over him and cooks for him like a grandmother, he says. Mia told me that she and the two Nancys put several items into Frank’s coffin, including “a small bottle of Jack Daniel’s and a dime, because he always told us never to go anywhere without a dime. ‘You never know who you’ll have to call.’ ” Mia also put in a note and her wedding ring.

    “Was he the great love of your life?,” I asked.

    “Yes.”
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    I think they can skip the DNA test.
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