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    I can't answer that either way

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    Anyway...

    I watched and loved Tarkovsky's Solaris. *Spoiler alert* if you, like me, were late to the party, or you don't want to know about the book (though it's not really the kind of thing that is ruined by spoilers)... It really isn't all that different from the book, except towards the end. All the beginning stuff, on Earth, is different; however, all the information you learn in those parts are also learned in the book (the helicopter pilot who sees a garden and a baby on the surface of Solaris), except that they take place around the middle of the story, and instead of interacting with people, the character learns things from reading the books in the library.

    Once Kris reaches the station, is practically goes, play by play, the way it happens in the book. There are some minor differences - Dr. Gibarian's guest is a tall black woman in the book, and Kris doesn't get to see who or what Sartorius' guest is, although he does figure it to be something small and wild, like an unruly child. But there are many spot-on details captured from the book. My favorite one is how Hari's dress needs to be torn or cut for it to be removed, because Solaris made the dress wrong, even though it put strings on the back... I don't quite remember, but I think in the book that Sartorius never comes out of his lab - or at least not after the initial meeting. I think Kris always has to talk to him through the door, because he's trapped himself in the lab with his crazy guest.

    There are two things that I missed from the book that didn't happen in the movie. One almost happened, and is really not a big deal, but when Kris is following Dr. Gibarian's guest (the girl with the bell sounds), in the book, she rests her head on Dr. Gibarian's body. I really liked that in the book, because it was interesting to see how the guest acts when it is left alone. It was also kind of the thing that showed us they had individual guests... The other thing is a huge event in the book, and is where the movie diverged the most: At the end of the movie, when Kris has a fever, sees his mom, and then sees his dad on Solaris, it seems to say that the story is ultimately about Kris. It's almost as though the whole thing was a test for Kris.

    In the book, however, there is a beautiful scene where Kris travels down onto one of the islands which have formed upon the surface of Solaris. He goes to the edge of the island and he sticks his hand out to the liquid-jelly substance that makes up Solaris. The liquid is always rising and making shapes and things, but when Kris does this, the liquid wraps around his arm. However, while it wraps around his arm, it never actually touches him - there is always a space between the two of them. That neatly summarizes the point that the book is trying to make: Kris and Solaris can never connect with each other. When humans confront Solaris they see babies, people, and Earth gardens in its surface; their guests are anthropomorphized, etc... In other words, humans and aliens can never connect, because humans are not aliens and aliens are not humans. Humans will always try to understand things by anthropomorphizing them.

    In a way, Tarkovsky was guilty of the same thing. He adapted Solaris and changed it into something more human. I haven't seen the more recent movie, but I'm sure it does the same (and probably even more-so). But I don't think it needs to be like the book. I know Stanislaw Lem was upset that it had changed so much, but it was really a perfect example of Solaristics. But anyway, I really recommend the book to anyone who hasn't read it. If there is one thing that the movie captured perfectly, it was the confusing (in a good way) and eerie feeling of the book. I love the whole concept of the guests hanging out on the station - and I love that we never really get to see Snaut's guest or Sartorius' guest. It's creepy.
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    I really appreciate the thoughts. I've been meaning to read Solaris and other Lem novels for a while...I'm going to have to get on that.
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    I don't think I would read that ending from the film at all. Our perspective of the planet does *seem* to be a personalization for Kris, but only because that is the reflection Solaris is generating at that moment. A disconnect exists that is similar to the book though, demonstrated strongest by Solaris's inability to make sense of kris's perceptions that it is drawing from. I think Tarkovsky definitely is trying to confront something different than Lem, but I don't think the goal was really to make Solaris itself more human... but rather the goal was to show something distinctly human that Solaris couldn't comprehend.

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    I'd love to know what some of this thread's regulars find funny. What are some of your favorite comedic films? And I mean laugh-out-loud funny, not simply films that makes you smile knowingly.

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    Off the top of my head Big Lebowski, Naked Gun (1 and 2 only), Bluestreak, Double Take, Friday, Vacation (all of them), Dazed and Confused... I could probably go on.
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    Ace Ventura, Dumb and Dumber, Team America, South Park the Movie, Austin Powers, The Princess Bride, The Last Dragon, Best in Show, Spinal Tap, Spaceballs, Supertroopers, Old School...

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    Quote Originally Posted by schoolofruckus View Post
    I really appreciate the thoughts. I've been meaning to read Solaris and other Lem novels for a while...I'm going to have to get on that.
    I really recommend The Futurological Congress, as it is one of the funniest books I've ever read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RageAgainstTheAoki View Post
    I'd love to know what some of this thread's regulars find funny. What are some of your favorite comedic films? And I mean laugh-out-loud funny, not simply films that makes you smile knowingly.
    It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
    Dumb & Dumber
    The Life of Brian
    Blazing Saddles
    Young Frankenstein
    The Producers
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    High Fidelity
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    and Do The Right Thing
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    Dear lord was The Hunger Games a big pile of weightless, pointless, silly.
    Everyone has been comparing it to Battle Royale but it had way more in common with The Apple.
    I did however really like Jennifer Lawrence in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RageAgainstTheAoki View Post
    I'd love to know what some of this thread's regulars find funny. What are some of your favorite comedic films? And I mean laugh-out-loud funny, not simply films that makes you smile knowingly.
    First one that came to mind:

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    Quote Originally Posted by RageAgainstTheAoki View Post
    I'd love to know what some of this thread's regulars find funny. What are some of your favorite comedic films? And I mean laugh-out-loud funny, not simply films that makes you smile knowingly.
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    And I'm probably in the minority here, but I thought Solaris was boring as hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmgaretjax View Post
    I don't think I would read that ending from the film at all. Our perspective of the planet does *seem* to be a personalization for Kris, but only because that is the reflection Solaris is generating at that moment. A disconnect exists that is similar to the book though, demonstrated strongest by Solaris's inability to make sense of kris's perceptions that it is drawing from. I think Tarkovsky definitely is trying to confront something different than Lem, but I don't think the goal was really to make Solaris itself more human... but rather the goal was to show something distinctly human that Solaris couldn't comprehend.
    Totally. I don't think I was really saying what I felt. I didn't see it as Solaris being meant for Kris, or as Tarkovsky's goal being to make Solaris more human. When I say that he made his Solaris more human, I meant it more in that it was closer to Kris' character than the book was, but not that the planet or the concept of "alien" was more human. I just think that in looking at Kris more closely, Tarkovsky gives more Human for us to relate to. I think it helps us experience the disconnect more... It was too much for me to say that the story is ultimately about Kris, because it's ultimately not very different from Lem's book - at least in showing the Human vs. Alien, either from one angle or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zircona1 View Post
    And I'm probably in the minority here, but I thought Solaris was boring as hell.
    It felt like it went fast for me, despite being 2 hours and 45 minutes. I think it's more of an atmospheric/mood experience than most sci-fi movies that I've seen (which I haven't really seen many, other than some of the real popular stuff). I was also excited about remembering things from the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RageAgainstTheAoki View Post
    I'd love to know what some of this thread's regulars find funny. What are some of your favorite comedic films? And I mean laugh-out-loud funny, not simply films that makes you smile knowingly.
    Besides ones that have already been mentioned, Anchorman and Some Like it Hot.

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    ^You know Will Ferrel just announced a sequel to Anchorman in the works?

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    Everyone has been comparing it to Battle Royale but it had way more in common with The Apple.
    I did however really like Jennifer Lawrence in it.
    So was it a direct ripoff of Battle Royale though? I mean in most cases I wouldnt hesitate a second to watch 8th graders shooting each others heads off, but I feel guilty about supporting something that (by the sounds of it) is such a direct ripoff of a movie I love so dearly
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    I am getting Battle Royale this week from Netflix. I have never seen it before.
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    I'd love to know what some of this thread's regulars find funny. What are some of your favorite comedic films? And I mean laugh-out-loud funny, not simply films that makes you smile knowingly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RageAgainstTheAoki View Post
    I'd love to know what some of this thread's regulars find funny. What are some of your favorite comedic films? And I mean laugh-out-loud funny, not simply films that makes you smile knowingly.
    I've said this many times before and lost credibility on all of them, but Freddy Got Fingered made me laugh harder than any movie I've ever seen.

    Other movies that have achieved great things in making me laugh:

    Made / Swingers
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    Anchorman / Step Brothers
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    Made is really underrated and totally superior to Swingers.
    The story is what it is, but its really all about those two guys' interaction.
    I also like how the dialogue suggests a lot of back story between the two without ever really underlining much of it.

    And Stepbrothers (to me) is the funniest film of its kind since Caddyshack.
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    Apparently I need to watch Kingpin again, since i love everything else on Gabe's list
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    I've said this many times before and lost credibility on all of them, but Freddy Got Fingered made me laugh harder than any movie I've ever seen.
    I hated the plot, but Tom Green had me laughing so hard at everything he did.
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    We're here to play some Mississippi Delta Blues. We're in a horrible depression, and I gotta admit - we're starting to like it.

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    http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/s...s/totalrecall/
    As a big fan of the earlier film, the new trailer kind of makes it show that its at least following the original story line. Could be a bad thing though, it looks as if alot of the fight scenes are almost exactly the same...big question is-Colin Farell>Arnold?

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