Bill Simmons: You get praised because of your fearlessness, because you get naked and you'll have a really uncomfortable sex scene. Why do people get praise for that? You created an honest character, it almost feels like it's insulting in some way. Like, "oh she gets naked on this show, she's fearless." That's the character you're playing. Do you think that's weird or am I over-thinking that?
Lena Dunham: No, I think that's really smart. I mean, it's funny -- you've just very succinctly said something that I kind of feel in a loose way all the time. So thank you for clarifying that for me because I think...first thing, I think that part of the reason I get that is because I'm not super thin. Like, no one's like, "Emmy Rossum is so brave. She always shows her butt on Shameless
." It's because she's got a perfect butt and nobody is stressed about it and they assume she's not stressed about it either, but they assume because I don't have a model body type that every time I take my clothes off it's a battle with myself. And a lot of things are a battle with myself, but for some reason getting naked is not one of them. I just don't feel a deep self-consciousness in that part of my life. And so I think you're really right, that it's sort of like, there's something really condescending about...I mean, I think it's brave to do things that scare you. And this isn't the thing that scares me.