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HotHamWater
02-01-2012, 05:14 PM
This will apparently help us determine when that act will play.


When an act is billed that high, is a big get (their/his first US performance), and not only fucking sounds like nighttime, but also the narrative to all their/his songs take place during nighttime, then of course it is worth Goldenvoice's time to think about it.

Does anybody else in this thread think The Weeknd on during the day is even a remote possibility?

I'll go first. The narratives of both "The Chronic" and "Doggystyle" primarily took place during the day if you've seen most of the music videos that came from the albums. Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg will probably play on the main at 4pm because of this.

Kaiser Chiefs has a song called "Saturday Night," so I think they'll play at night. They also have a song called "Heat Dies Down," which probably means a sunset slot.

Friday

The Black Keys: 3:30 - Main
Breakbot: 10pm - Sahara
Frank Ocean: 4pm - Mojave
M83: TBD
Yuck: 2:30pm - Outdoor

Saturday

Azealia Banks: 6pm - Gobi
Kaiser Chiefs: 7:30pm - Outdoor
Martin Solveig: 12pm - Sahara
Radiohead: 12pm - Main
Squeeze: 10am - Campground

Sunday

At the Drive-In: Midnight - Outdoor
AVICII: 1:08am - Sahara
DJ Shadow: 5pm - Outdoor
Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg: 4pm - Main
First Aid Kit: 2pm - Gobi

FEELS
02-01-2012, 05:17 PM
what

guedita
02-01-2012, 05:24 PM
ahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

guedita
02-01-2012, 05:24 PM
Artist by artist. Let's do this.

brycerosen
02-01-2012, 05:25 PM
lol WTF am i doing?

HotHamWater
02-01-2012, 05:25 PM
This will be like the "Tell Us About the 2012 Lineup" thread, but with logic and reason.

I'll save everyone the trouble of listing Sahara artists. They're all playing at night.

dorkfish
02-01-2012, 05:26 PM
Sounds like there's going to be a Bay City Rollers vs Kaiser Chiefs conflict.

guedita
02-01-2012, 05:27 PM
I think the only way to do this with consistently is to analyze and digest the youtube link provided for each artist on the lineup page. That is, I assume, how Paul Tollett determines scheduling.

HotHamWater
02-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Azealia Banks' video looks like it takes place around 5:30, which fits with the thematic narrative because cunts generally get eaten after work. To be safe, we'll say 6:00 in the Gobi.

guedita
02-01-2012, 05:34 PM
http://youtu.be/6okxuiiHx2w

The lyric "Something tells me that I'm dreaming," along with the thematic narrative of making a girl's wish his command, over a funky bassline, suggests to me that this is a night time act. Also, note the darkness of the background in the video, with the central characters needing to be colored in neon to be visible. 10:00 PM Sahara.

He even says "Trust me, I'll be there." Confirmed.

Premium Roast
02-01-2012, 05:35 PM
will have the whole schedule soon

HotHamWater
02-01-2012, 05:41 PM
Yuck


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz7vyrFhFE8

The thematic narrative of this video is the band, especially the lead singer, getting away from something. During the day, I might add. This makes sense because people often get away from things during the day, so as to avoid dangerous night driving. 2:30, most likely on a stage outdoors. It would be weird to see them perform this song at night when I know damn-well it was set in the day.

guedita
02-01-2012, 05:42 PM
http://youtu.be/TMfPJT4XjAI

This one is difficult. Novacane is usually only administered during normal dentistry work hours (9-5), suggesting a day time performance. BUT, "Novacane," here, is metaphoric. He references Jigga and Z-Trip's Coachella performances, both of which occurred at night, but also alludes to ingested cocaine for breakfast--typically a morning meal.

Law of averages suggests a 4 PM Mojave set.

HotHamWater
02-01-2012, 05:51 PM
First Aid Kit


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPWrX9PJAOs&feature=channel_video_title

"Bitter winds are coming in, and I'm already missing the summer. Star comes cold, but I've been told I was born to endure this kind of weather."

The thematic narrative is pretty clear in this song, and throughout the album. It's cold, bitter, windy, etc. This performance would be a waste, because of the thematic narrative, during the day. And Paul T. knows this.

9:00pm Gobi.

PlayaDelWes
02-01-2012, 05:57 PM
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8:30, 8:35, sometime around then.

guedita
02-01-2012, 05:59 PM
No analysis of thematic narrative -- M83 is still TBD.

PlayaDelWes
02-01-2012, 06:01 PM
AVICII: 1:08







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malcolmjamalawesome
02-01-2012, 06:56 PM
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Daytime set

malcolmjamalawesome
02-01-2012, 06:57 PM
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Morning.

santasutt
02-01-2012, 08:19 PM
http://youtu.be/t9QZhLSKEps

10 AM Campground Set, obviously.

TomAz
02-01-2012, 09:41 PM
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Morning.

Yes.

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Taylor
02-01-2012, 10:34 PM
what
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captncrzy
02-02-2012, 07:13 AM
At the Drive In


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3u_Vuc2hYY

No real video for this song, but I think the combination of the song title and the band's name (you can't go to the drive in during the day...amirite?) gives you a clear indication of when they'll be playing.



Midnight

theresalwaysone
02-02-2012, 07:23 AM
Martin solveig has a song about coming to say hello. You say hello when you first see someone. Therefore he will be the opening act. 12pm start time.

HotHamWater
02-02-2012, 07:38 AM
Thanks for the contributions, you guys. Keeping with the thematic narrative of this thread, I've updated the first post. I'll be submitting these times to clumsy, to aid him in his mock-scheduling efforts.

TomAz
02-02-2012, 07:43 AM
First Aid Kit


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPWrX9PJAOs&feature=channel_video_title

"Bitter winds are coming in, and I'm already missing the summer. Star comes cold, but I've been told I was born to endure this kind of weather."

The thematic narrative is pretty clear in this song, and throughout the album. It's cold, bitter, windy, etc. This performance would be a waste, because of the thematic narrative, during the day. And Paul T. knows this.

9:00pm Gobi.

I disagree with this interpretation. Clearly they are playing early in the day. The video you posted was filmed in Joshua Tree NP.. that's right by Coachella. And it's daytime in the video. Plus there's a fire, and they're at the Gram Parsons botched-cremation site, and they're singing about Emmylou Harris. Gram and Emmylou did a killer cover of "We'll Sweep Out The Ashes In The Morning".
QED.

And of course they have cold, bitter, windy thoughout their album. They're Swedish. It's plenty cold, bitter, and windy in Sweden in the daytime too.

edit: You're wrong about them playing the Gobi too. That video is set in the Mohave desert.

PlayaDelWes
02-02-2012, 07:47 AM
DJ Shadow

Certainly not at at night. He'll be most effective went he sun is low. 5pm.

HotHamWater
02-02-2012, 07:50 AM
Those are all good points, Tom. So maybe First Aid Kit doesn't HAVE to play after the sun goes down? I think a good compromise is maybe when it's starting to get more cold and bitter on the polo field. Hmmm. The "star comes cold" line is what's getting me. I know stars exist during the day. I mean, the sun is a star. The sun......is a star. Fuck. Yeah, First Aid Kit is playing during the day.

TomAz
02-02-2012, 07:58 AM
The "star comes cold" line is what's getting me.

You sure they're not singing "Stockholm's cold"?

faxman75
02-02-2012, 07:58 AM
Bon Iver

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I originally thought this set would be taking place in a new Air Conditioned frosted dome to best capture the recording conditions of the previous album. However, after further examination of the lyrics he talks about telling people to be patient. This tells me it doesn't have to be in a cold and frosty new dome but just very late at night or even early morning when the desert cools off a bit. (we all remember how patient we had to be for Prince and he didn't even sing a song with those words in it). Finally, he says "in the morning i'll be with you". In fact the coachella camping area and Wisconsin wilderness are almost identical in every way.

That clinches it. This set will likely start around 4:30AM and conclude at sun up. It will also take place on the campground as it closely resembles the Wisconsin wilderness.

HotHamWater
02-02-2012, 08:09 AM
You sure they're not singing "Stockholm's cold"?

I'm really not sure of anything, anymore. I consulted the internet last night, and two web sites apparently lied to me. It's "Stockholm's," which makes me even more confident about moving them where I did.

PlayaDelWes
02-02-2012, 09:02 AM
In Postcards From Italy, Beirut sings “…there were always golden rocks to throw…”. Golden Rocks are a euphemism for Fish Sticks. Coachella Stage 10:30pm Sunday.

guedita
02-02-2012, 10:08 AM
Some of you are really bad at explicating thematic narrative. Just sayin'. Respect the process.

GuyInTucson
02-02-2012, 10:11 AM
That's what I get for glossing over the thread as opposed to reading it.

Somewhat Damaged
02-05-2012, 01:20 PM
So what about when Soulwax played in 2007? They were playing in support of their Nite Versions album, and indeed were even identified on the set times in the festival guide as Soulwax - Nite Versions, but they played in the Sahara...from 4:50 to 5:50 pm. I was there and let me tell you, it was most definitely NOT night time. I thought, "Well, they do have that lyric about James Brown being dead," and when I first heard about his death, it was during the day time, so perhaps that was what swayed Paul Tollet to schedule them to play while it was still light out, but upon further research, it appears that Mr. Brown in fact passed away at 1:45 am EST, which would make it night time even under Pacific Standard Time, which would be the time that Mr. Tollet would undoubtedly consider when choosing to schedule an act. In addition, Soulwax has a song on said album called "E Talking," and while there are some drug addicts who choose to take Ecstasy during the day, it's widely accepted to be a drug to be enjoyed at night. So what Paul was thinking when he made that decision, I'll never know.

cooperb1
02-05-2012, 11:37 PM
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captncrzy
02-06-2012, 07:13 AM
Of course you are. Of course.

DANCE MAGIC
02-06-2012, 12:48 PM
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Explosions in the Sky is clearly going to play inside of a Time Vacuum, courtesy of The Creator's Project. While this vacuum will exist outside of the normal time/space continuum, it is impossible to define an exact time of this performance. However, because of the involvement of The Creator's Project, it can be assumed that they will play on the Main Stage.

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Further analysis of this song, along with their album titled "The Earth is Not A Cold Dead Place," reveals that their performance will likely take place during the daytime when the moon is down, and the sun heats the earth. Interestingly, however, despite the heat and obvious sun we will almost surely see the first snowfall ever recorded on the Empire Polo Fields.

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rage patton
02-06-2012, 01:14 PM
This is probably the funniest thread since the line up came out. Squeeze at 10am in the campground killed me.

DANCE MAGIC
02-06-2012, 01:43 PM
it is impossible to define an exact time of this performance.

Further analysis has revealed that their set will take place sometime during the year 1952.

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KidRobot
02-06-2012, 03:31 PM
Further analysis has revealed that their set will take place sometime during the year 1952.

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By this reasoning, can it be concluded that Pulp's performance will take place in the year 2000?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJS3xnD7Mus

rage patton
02-08-2012, 07:44 PM
Madness performs a song they call "Nightboat To Cairo," which is about a boat heading up the river Nile at night. This leads me to believe Madness will perform at night. Furthermore, Cairo is to the Southeast of the Empire Polo Fields, which means they must be playing the most South-Eastern stage if they plan on taking this Nightboat to Cairo. The stage being the Sahara. I know the Sahara is typically know to host "dance" acts, but I have seen Madness live and people definitely dance during their set. Furthermore, they use keyboards, which I have seen used in the Sahara several time, so I think Madness will fit.

So you may as well schedule Madness in for a night slot in the Sahara.

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Timestretch
02-08-2012, 09:07 PM
Justice. You might assume their music is for the night. But they clearly state that AVD is music for the daytime and the countryside.

"Electronic music has always been portrayed as music for the night and cities,” says Xavier de Rosnay of electro-duo Justice, “so we were seduced by the idea of making an electronic record for the day and countryside.”

Which is why their videos for AVD all take place in a darken space world. I have to conclude that Justice will think they are performing during the day, while actually performing at night somewhere in Blythe. All of this is consistent with the notion that they have no fucking clue as to what they are doing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIW1m3jbEsg&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVq2yMuAMVQ&feature=relmfu

adammm
02-08-2012, 09:29 PM
Well Jimmy Cliff sings "I can see clearly now the rain is gone."

So clearly means day, because who can see true clarity at night...
and also he can only go on after the rain is gone

So jimmy cliff only performs after the rain when he can see clearly.

guedita
02-08-2012, 09:29 PM
Adammm is the board's best new member.

Gribbz
02-08-2012, 09:37 PM
Justice. You might assume their music is for the night. But they clearly state that AVD is music for the daytime and the countryside.

"Electronic music has always been portrayed as music for the night and cities,” says Xavier de Rosnay of electro-duo Justice, “so we were seduced by the idea of making an electronic record for the day and countryside.”

Please tell me they really said this.

frizzlefry
02-09-2012, 12:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9L3D1w8KcY

This line as well as others "Oh we've stayed much too late, they're cleaning up the ash trays" implies staying well beyond the end of "The Party"

St. Vincent will play sometime between 3 and 4 AM Sunday Morning.

pezasied
02-09-2012, 01:29 AM
Well done

TomAz
02-09-2012, 07:55 AM
I have been scouring the Buzzcock's catalog for hints or clues. As with much powerful art, there are multiple ambiguities that make definitive conclusions unreliable. Much of their lyrical content focuses on questions of sexuality and relationships (and the resulting angst and tension) -- which might point to a nighttime slot or it might not. Self-doubt is timeless, after all.

So, what does the evidence provide us?

The only Buzzcocks song title that refers to either day or night is the ironic gem "Everybody's Happy Nowadays".

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The thing is, though, "nowadays" does not literally mean daytime; it just means in the modern era. More importantly, they don't literally mean the title to be true -- this is irony in its purest literarly form, in which the writer says one thing but means exactly the opposite. So, if this song is supposed to create a sort of Spongebobian "Opposite Day" heuristic, it may be an indicator of a nighttime slot.

Now let us consider a second source: the classic diatribe "I Believe" from the great A Different Kind of Tension LP. In this song, Pete Shelley sings a list of things he (supposedly) believes in.. including "I believe I'm going to be late."

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Now, what does "late" mean in this context? Does it mean a latenight slot, say 11pm in the Mojave? Or is it an indicator of something even more sinister: perhaps the Buzzcocks will pull a Sly Stone and miss their own set by several hours? On the surface this latter reading may appear to carry significant weight. And in fact this is where the misguided Slyists hold their faith.

But a deeper dig into the placement and context of the lyrics of "I Believe" show this interpretation to be shallow and inapt. For does Shelley really list things he literally believes in? Do we really think that he simultaneously believes in a Trotskyite "Workers Revolution", a proto-fascist "Final Solution", and a dogmatic Romish "Immaculate Conception"? Clearly these ideas are contradictory. Shelley is driving at something deeper in a nonlinear way. And in fact he gives us a clue to this at the very beginning of the song: "it's not my intention to make things plain."

No, the phrase "I believe I'm going to be late", when taken with this contextual placement, is seen as an allusion to the pressures on individuals in a world in which the greedy Corporate Masters try to wring every last effort out of the hapless minions. And this occurs in the daytime. People rush and hurry to get things during the day so that they can keep their Masters happy and then have an hour or two of free time in the evening to watch Simon Cowell cruelly victimize some talentless twit on national television. Then they drink themselves into a stupor, collapse in exhaustion, and wake the next morning to do it all over again.


Ambiguous time slot for a complex and riveting talent. 6pm, Mojave tent.

captncrzy
02-09-2012, 08:34 AM
I've done a bit of an Azealia Banks study this morning.

212


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk

The lyrics of “212”, from what I can decipher, center around the sexual tension around some different people that I can’t quite determine. Talking about catching warm goo in a do rag and cunts getting eaten clearly indicate nighttime activities. Plus, the song title 212 is clearly a reference to the 212 area code in Manhattan—the city that never sleeps. There is a line about sitting in on the lunch if you’re buying, but there is also a line about licking my plum in the evening. Lunch could really mean dinner like it does in England. I get the feeling this lady sleeps in real late and gets up in the afternoon! Anyway, I feel like this could be a midnight set. Let’s move on to Needsumluv’.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbxmy9lkbY4


In this song, we see the softer side of Azealia. Reminicient of the song “Secret Lovers” or “Dontcha”, the lyrics speak to a man that is giving Azalia the business but is continuing to stay with someone else, even though Azealia feels that he no longer loves her. I can’t help but feel that their affair is happening all the time, day or night, whenever they get the chance to be together. I sort of feel like he’s lying to his girlfriend about being out with the boys and really trucking it over to Azealia’s pad. Therefore, I’m still thinking this will be a midnight set.


Grand Scam



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBTpzlgNiCM


This is an incredibly tough one to decipher, since the song really just repeats *****, fuck, man, and scram/scam over and over again. I like the “bunnyfuck” line, but I have no idea what time bunnies prefer to fuck. But, there is a line about dumping a man in the river. Generally speaking, you should never dump a body in the river during the day. That’s just stupid.


Verdict: midnight set.

Timestretch
02-09-2012, 08:35 AM
Please tell me they really said this.

The quote is directly under the video.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/oct/29/justice-audio-video-disco-interview

PlayaDelWes
02-09-2012, 10:09 AM
Hives: Coachella Stage, 1:00 PM

An excerpt from Hate to Say I Told You So, where the three most frequent words are “Wanna”, “Gonna”, and “Cause”:

Do what I want cause I can and if I don't because I wanna be ignored by the stiff and the bored because I'm gonnaAnother excerpt from Wont’ be Long (Most frequent words: “Got”, “Goin”, “Gotta”, “Cause”.)

Got me a ticket and I won't be long 'cause I can't go on and I gotta get goin'I’m pretty sure these guys are used to playing music during school, because clearly they skipped English Class. But did they skip every English class? Let’s see.

Here’s a look at some Dolch Sight Words they would have encountered in 1st grade. It looks eerily similar to The Hives library of lyrics.


http://i40.tinypic.com/sl0cn7.jpg


Now, compare their lyrics to a list of 3rd grade words.


http://i40.tinypic.com/2n6hdgl.jpg


Good luck finding a Hives lyric as complex as “Strawberry”. Somewhere between 1st and 3rd grade they stopped going to English Class and started writing all their songs. It just confirms that “During School” will be the perfect timeslot for them.

Confirm them on the Main Stage because they will most certainly avoid the local grammar police who are known to frequent the Sahara Tent on the opposite end of the field.

TomAz
02-09-2012, 10:37 AM
Wes, did you forget the Hives are Swedish?

PlayaDelWes
02-09-2012, 10:46 AM
Yes I did, BUT somehow the rest of the Swedish talent pool has been able to grace the polo fields with their advanced english diction.

Somewhat Damaged
02-09-2012, 10:52 AM
A+ contributions from the Arizona contingent.

frizzlefry
02-09-2012, 10:59 AM
Yes I did, BUT somehow the rest of the Swedish talent pool has been able to grace the polo fields with their advanced english diction.

MAKE SOME NOOOOOOIIISE is clearly vernacular coming from a second grader

guedita
02-09-2012, 11:03 AM
Is a primer on negotiating the difference between words-as-grammatical-units and thematic narrative in order? Some of us still seem to be struggling with the assignment.

TomAz
02-09-2012, 11:48 AM
You bitch about that but no notice of the use of the word 'heuristic'. Sad face.

guedita
02-09-2012, 11:59 AM
"Hapless minions" was better.

TomAz
02-09-2012, 01:42 PM
'You don't get it' face.

guedita
02-09-2012, 01:47 PM
Ruler to the wrist slap.

TomAz
02-09-2012, 02:06 PM
Disappointed/disapproving head shake.

amyzzz
02-10-2012, 11:29 AM
Good job on the Buzzcocks one, Tom.

captncrzy
07-12-2012, 03:15 PM
Did anyone ever check the accuracy of this?

H_is_O
07-13-2012, 06:47 AM
in this economy?

SmellyBath
07-13-2012, 12:29 PM
Twin Shadow literally had to Beg For The Night set until Goldenvoice finally caved and booked him Mojave at 10pm

SmellyBath
07-13-2012, 12:29 PM
and has anyone heard this rumor that Rhye is playing all 3 Days?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuG-oeS2GiI&feature=player_detailpage

captncrzy
07-13-2012, 12:43 PM
Are you retarded or just making a horrible attempt at being funny?

SmellyBath
07-13-2012, 02:36 PM
Are you retarded or just making a horrible attempt at being funny?

i guess both.