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chiapet
02-22-2009, 10:04 PM
I also have never been able to drink jager. Or red bull. So I've never had a jagerbomb and the idea makes me feel a little sick. But then I also can't stand jack, and a slew of other liquors.

JSam67
02-22-2009, 10:04 PM
Paul and Josh, I finally bought and listened to Yeasayer's All Hour Cymbals yesterday, really dig it. You both like them, right? Good live show?

chiapet
02-22-2009, 10:05 PM
And JSam, you don't need to take up drinking to fit in with the convo :P I doubt anyone will be getting shitty at Bonnaroo, will be too hot to drink heavily I'm sure.

TommyboyUNM
02-22-2009, 10:06 PM
JAGER BOMBS!


Paul, are you still wanting to visit the magical mushroom kingdom?

TommyboyUNM
02-22-2009, 10:07 PM
And JSam, you don't need to take up drinking to fit in with the convo :P I doubt anyone will be getting shitty at Bonnaroo, will be too hot to drink heavily I'm sure.


I'm certainly not planning on getting drunk at Bonnaroo. Maybe a few beers, but not drunk by any means. I'll stick to herbal refreshments and maybe hang out with the fun guy.

paulb
02-22-2009, 10:07 PM
Paul, are you still wanting to visit the magical mushroom kingdom?

yes.

TommyboyUNM
02-22-2009, 10:08 PM
yes.


:thu

Mr. Dylanja
02-22-2009, 10:11 PM
are you still wanting to visit the magical mushroom kingdom?

I plan on residing in this kingdom throughout the weekend, visitors are always welcome :)

paulb
02-22-2009, 10:12 PM
fun guy :dumbo

chiapet
02-22-2009, 10:14 PM
Yea, like I said (despite all the booze talk), I really just want a bloody mary in the morning, maybe a cold beer or two, and possibly a little capt'n for camp at night. If it's really hot I won't even drink that much. I just really enjoy drinking in the AM when I'm on vacation :P

TommyboyUNM
02-22-2009, 10:16 PM
I plan on residing in this kingdom throughout the weekend, visitors are always welcome :)


I'll probably stop by and say hello, Dylz.

rage patton
02-22-2009, 10:18 PM
Paul and Josh, I finally bought and listened to Yeasayer's All Hour Cymbals yesterday, really dig it. You both like them, right? Good live show?

Paul doesn't listen to them, but I LOVE them. They are far better live than on album. Their album doesn't do their live show justice. Also, when I saw them in November, they played 4 new songs and they absolutely blew my mind. I seriously think the new Yeasayer album that is comming out sometime this year will be the best album of the year.

paulb
02-22-2009, 10:22 PM
I still havent heard Yeasayer yet....maybe at Bonnaroo....we'll see.

chiapet
02-22-2009, 10:24 PM
You know, I don't really enjoy Yeasayer on album that much, but really liked their set that I caught last year. I'm like that with a lot of bands though.

JSam67
02-22-2009, 10:24 PM
Paul doesn't listen to them, but I LOVE them. They are far better live than on album. Their album doesn't do their live show justice. Also, when I saw them in November, they played 4 new songs and they absolutely blew my mind. I seriously think the new Yeasayer album that is comming out sometime this year will be the best album of the year.

I'm happy to hear all of this. I missed them at Lolla for whatever reason but they're definitely a can't-miss at Roo for me now.

Really though, I can't stop focusing on Coachella right now. It's coming so fast!

http://ndmindset.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/mbv.jpeg

chiapet
02-22-2009, 10:25 PM
:) :) :)

They're going to blow your mind.

JSam67
02-22-2009, 10:29 PM
:) :) :)

They're going to blow your mind.

:) Mine and everyone else's. God I was soooo sober at their Aragon show. Not this time!

GEwjsIfU7lo

(I've probably posted this before, but it still doesn't diminish the awesomeness of an in-your-face opening song like this.)

rage patton
02-22-2009, 10:30 PM
Their Lolla webcast is what got me into them. I tuned in just as they started... and I could not believe what I heard. I was blown away. I listened to the album after, and was actually slightly disapointed. They are THAT good live. I now love the album, but as I said, they were amazing when I saw them in November. My fiancee also thought the album was OK before the show... but now she loves them. Just as much as me perhaps.

I dont want to raise your expectations to an unrealistically high level, but they really are fantastic live. Just don't expect to hear the album repeated note-for-note live. They sound almost completely different. But in the best way possible.

sbessiso
02-22-2009, 11:27 PM
I'm not a big drinker at all. Even when all my friends are drinking I usually don't, or if I do it's a little bit. I'll just smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke some more!

Aphxtwinin
02-22-2009, 11:55 PM
I'm not a big drinker at all. Even when all my friends are drinking I usually don't, or if I do it's a little bit. I'll just smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke some more!

ME TOO!!!!! we should hang out

Sushov23
02-23-2009, 12:05 AM
Their Lolla webcast is what got me into them. I tuned in just as they started... and I could not believe what I heard. I was blown away. I listened to the album after, and was actually slightly disapointed. They are THAT good live. I now love the album, but as I said, they were amazing when I saw them in November. My fiancee also thought the album was OK before the show... but now she loves them. Just as much as me perhaps.

I dont want to raise your expectations to an unrealistically high level, but they really are fantastic live. Just don't expect to hear the album repeated note-for-note live. They sound almost completely different. But in the best way possible.

I vouch for all of this. I've seen Yeasayer 4-5 times, and they are amazing live.

stinkbutt
02-23-2009, 12:16 AM
they are mediocre at best one of those bands that you should check out if nothing and I mean absolutely nothing is going on

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 12:17 AM
coughmarsvoltacough


ME TOO!!!!! we should hang out

Assuming I go to Ultra, im gunna see you guys there

stinkbutt
02-23-2009, 12:17 AM
or if they're playing by the food court but they are probably more likely to play the food court

JSam67
02-23-2009, 12:42 AM
coughmarsvoltacough

stinkbutt likes TMV? And consistently gives you shit about your musical taste?

Weak.

stinkbutt
02-23-2009, 12:44 AM
I liked The Mars Volta

but yeah Salad could open up to a thing or two

hiyo

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 05:12 AM
They're too screechy and EPIC

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2009, 10:08 AM
When are we getting our first round of additions?

Chappelle? ONE TIME! Primus? TWO TIMES!

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2009, 10:11 AM
Also, for those that've camped, how much space do you get to set up? Is there enough room for two 2-person tents? Possibly 3? If we end up with 6 people in one car is there going to be enough space for us?

chiapet
02-23-2009, 10:35 AM
The FAQ said that space is allocated by carload not person -- approx 10' times the width of your car. So I would think that would be plenty for two 2-person tents, but is probably going to be a tight fit for 6 people plus gear.

Let me put it this way -- at Coachella, you get 8'x8' per person, and everyone feels like that is really small. (So 48'x8' for 6 people). At Bonnaroo you will probably have about 10'x6' for 6 people.

I'm assuming they are somewhat strict with the space, especially earlier / the closer you are since they would be piling cars in next to each other. So it may not be wise to cram a ton of people into a vehicle. :)

sin213
02-23-2009, 10:38 AM
:) Mine and everyone else's. God I was soooo sober at their Aragon show. Not this time!

GEwjsIfU7lo

(I've probably posted this before, but it still doesn't diminish the awesomeness of an in-your-face opening song like this.)

that is a great clip! i can't wait to see them at Coach. can't hear any vocals though...could you hear in the venue or is the music just that loud that vocals really don't make it thru the noise? either way...AWESOME.



I'm not a big drinker at all. Even when all my friends are drinking I usually don't, or if I do it's a little bit. I'll just smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke some more!

ME TOO!!!!! we should hang out

HERE HERE! I don't plan on drinking anything, but smoking all weekend.



When are we getting our first round of additions?

Chappelle? ONE TIME! Primus? TWO TIMES!

that would be just too good to be true. in fact, i hope chappelle doesn't get added because I'd probably have to give up a days worth of sets to stand in line for the comedy tent for his performance. that tent will have a line back to nashville for that show...if he does get added, hopefully it'd be a main stage thing like Chris Rock....

rage patton
02-23-2009, 10:54 AM
Holy shit. That My Bloody Valentine video was amazing. When the high pitch sliding noise comes in at 0:54 seconds I got goosebumps. I cannot wait for them at Coachella. I wont miss them for anyone.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 10:59 AM
I honestly don't know how anyone will be able to play at the same time as them. When they hit that section of the show, it will drown everyone else out. I wonder if they're going to have to cap it at a particular dB. People have quoted other outdoor shows but I don't have a good idea for how urban (or not) those were... aren't there houses right across the street from the polo grounds?

rage patton
02-23-2009, 11:07 AM
Apparently, during their set at Fuji Rock last year, 1,000 people died and a small town was destroyed due to the avalanches caused by how loud My Bloody Valentine were.

True story.

sin213
02-23-2009, 11:08 AM
lol!

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:08 AM
Apparently, during their set at Fuji Rock last year, 1,000 people died and a small town was destroyed due to the avalanches caused by how loud My Bloody Valentine were.

True story.

Also, Godzilla went deaf...true story.

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 11:09 AM
That's fucked up.

If they really DO play outdoor, I have to skip them. I need to secure my spot for the cure

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:10 AM
That's fucked up.

If they really DO play outdoor, I have to skip them. I need to secure my spot for the cure

Robert Smith will fucking depair...they won't conflict or play outdoor.

sin213
02-23-2009, 11:10 AM
no way..they've gotta be main stage...

chiapet
02-23-2009, 11:12 AM
LOL...

Okay guys I meant that surely GV's contract has limits on not just the curfew but volume/noise limits. It is in the middle of a metro area after all.

rage patton
02-23-2009, 11:13 AM
Kevin Shield won't touch his guitar until the sound pleases his ears. If its not loud enough, he won't play.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:18 AM
Kevin Shield won't touch his guitar until the sound pleases his ears. If its not loud enough, he won't play.

THIS. This ladies and gentlemen is a fact. MBV were paid 400k to reunite and do their tour last year and poured all the money into new equipment. FACT.

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 11:21 AM
chut up

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:22 AM
la tu ya puto.

feather
02-23-2009, 11:23 AM
I may wear ear plugs for the first time in my life.

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 11:23 AM
Don't act like I don't know what that means, Marco

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:25 AM
I may wear ear plugs for the first time in my life.

1st time I ever wore ear plugs to a show was ATP UCLA. And that was for the likes of Japanese Noise Maestro Merzbow.

feather
02-23-2009, 11:29 AM
I'm gonna ride it out first...let them bleed a little, and then if I can't take it anymore I will bust out the plugs to save myself from deafness in later years.

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 11:30 AM
You're gunna wanna hear Robert Smith afterwards, Feather. He will massage your soul and cleanse it :)

locachica73
02-23-2009, 11:31 AM
Don't wait till the damage is done girl. I am barely going to be 36 (yes i know in your eyes that is old) and I have damage to one ear drum already. And I never went to very many shows. Now whenever there is too much bass or it is just too loud one ear sounds like a radio station that is just slightly off. I get like a static sound in that one ear. It can make a good show less fun, it even bothers me at the club at times if I get too close to the speakers. If you plan on having a long life of going to shows take the precautions now.

feather
02-23-2009, 11:32 AM
Yes it will be the perfect remedy!!! I remember at my old work I had to write Friday's menu on the board, and I would always put: "Friday I'm in Love." Ahhh brings back memories.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 11:36 AM
that would be just too good to be true. in fact, i hope chappelle doesn't get added because I'd probably have to give up a days worth of sets to stand in line for the comedy tent for his performance. that tent will have a line back to nashville for that show...if he does get added, hopefully it'd be a main stage thing like Chris Rock....


If Chappelle does get added there is no way he wouldn't perform on the main stage.


I'm gonna ride it out first...let them bleed a little, and then if I can't take it anymore I will bust out the plugs to save myself from deafness in later years.


Do yourself a favor and just wear them from the beginning of their set, feath.

sin213
02-23-2009, 11:36 AM
i'm almost 30 and i've been going to a show a week for the last 3 years...and at least a show a month for last 10 years and i still have super hearing. and i've never used earplugs...

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 11:38 AM
i'm almost 30 and i've been going to a show a week for the last 3 years...and at least a show a month for last 10 years and i still have super hearing. and i've never used earplugs...


Are you gonna wear ear plugs during My Bloody Valentine?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:38 AM
WHAT?

sin213
02-23-2009, 11:39 AM
nope

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 11:39 AM
What about butt plugs?

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 11:39 AM
WHAT?


And are YOU gonna wear ear plugs during The Throbbing Gristles? If I went deaf all of a sudden I might think about watching their set.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:40 AM
I judgy mcmarco have been to hardcore japanese noise shows in LA and Japan. and I know better and will be wearing ear plugs. I have warned my wife and brother in law that they will need to do the same but they don't believe me yet.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 11:40 AM
nope


Good luck, man. For what it's worth I highly suggest you wear them at least for that show.

sin213
02-23-2009, 11:40 AM
What about butt plugs?

:winkiss ,

locachica73
02-23-2009, 11:40 AM
whenever i read the words throbbing gristle i think of a giant penis. is that weird?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:41 AM
And are YOU gonna wear ear plugs during The Throbbing Gristles? If I went deaf all of a sudden I might think about watching their set.

As I stated in the MBV thread. I am not sure if I will watch TG based on the YYY/Good spot for the Cure and MBV conflict that will happen on Sunday.

sin213
02-23-2009, 11:42 AM
Good luck, man. For what it's worth I highly suggest you wear them at least for that show.

i think i save my hearing because of the locations i choose to listen from.

i try to not line myself up with a stack and certainly don't hug the rail right next to a stack.

plus, i stay a bit back to get in that sweet spot for the sound...so that helps too...

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:42 AM
whenever i read the words throbbing gristle i think of a giant penis. is that weird?

no not really. some people think of giant churros.

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 11:42 AM
Sabeezy, did you hear something??

I don't think I'm camping but I DO think I'm getting a camping pass.

I haven't heard a thing, which is my I'm asking. I don't have a working phone at Coachella so the campsite is where it would be easier to meet some of y'all. Don't disappoint me bro

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 11:44 AM
As I stated in the MBV thread. I am not sure if I will watch TG based on the YYY/Good spot for the Cure and MBV conflict that will happen on Sunday.


That's good to know, Marco! Sacrifice Throbbing Gristle for actual music. I think I'll get my TG fix before I leave for Coachella by asking my 2-year old nieces to hit some buckets with spoons and scream.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 11:45 AM
i think i save my hearing because of the locations i choose to listen from.

i try to not line myself up with a stack and certainly don't hug the rail right next to a stack.

plus, i stay a bit back to get in that sweet spot for the sound...so that helps too...


Ok..... to each their own.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:46 AM
That's good to know, Marco! Sacrifice Throbbing Gristle for actual music. I think I'll get my TG fix before I leave for Coachella by asking my 2-year old nieces to hit some buckets with spoons and scream.

your a bitch.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 11:47 AM
your a bitch.


My a bitch? :)

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 11:50 AM
So this is potentially a ride I can hop on to Bonnaroo. I say potentially because it has a lot of kinks to be worked out and I don't know if it'll be ready by June. But wouldn't it be sweet?? The adorably small blonde girl is one of my very best friends (even though shes a total bitch sometimes)

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/48/l_0366ded0e163470a949fcdee8c093070.jpg

sin213
02-23-2009, 11:51 AM
goin to roo in a hippy van! does it have shag carpet inside??

feather
02-23-2009, 11:56 AM
whenever i read the words throbbing gristle i think of a giant penis. is that weird?

If I were to make a costume for TG it would be a giant tumbleweed. That's what I think of...

Ok you guys have convinced me to wear earplugs! I already have some minor problems in that area, and what the heck I could get really cool neon ones to make it more cool :) We all can have matching ones?! YES.

**This is off topic but Tommy I know I waited until the last minute for Acct. HW help but are you free this evening/tomorrow at all?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 11:57 AM
Me a bitch? :)

fixed. And I still love you, you big bitch. *bro hugz*

chiapet
02-23-2009, 11:58 AM
i'm almost 30 and i've been going to a show a week for the last 3 years...and at least a show a month for last 10 years and i still have super hearing. and i've never used earplugs...

I'm a few years older than you and have some hearing loss in one ear, but this is after 600+ shows and countless raves, and listening to headphones too loud, etc. Even though it took a lot of abuse to get to this point, it sucks. It's something that isn't noticeable until I'm somewhere with a lot of ambient noise or a lot of people talking -- for example, in bars I have a lot of trouble hearing people unless they sit on my "good side." :)

I did not wear earplugs much, up until about 4 years ago. I think some of the things you mentioned are important though -- bass heavy shows, being inline with a stack and close to stage. I always used to be near the front of the crowd (I am short, dammit, and want to see), even if that meant being near (but not in front of) a speaker. I also for some reason always favored standing to the left, and of course that is the ear that is wonky.

What is weird is that I didn't notice it as it was happening, gradually over the years. It was only noticeable once I'd done quite a bit of damage. I guess what I'm saying is, you should always be wearing earplugs.


And I would not even consider listening to MBV w/o. The entire show is loud and it peeks at almost 130db, which is the threshold for causing physical pain. At ATP NY, I was as far back in the venue as you could be. My body was vibrating as the floor was shaking with each riff. During the noise "holocaust", it felt as if there was a plane taking off inside the room in terms of noise and sound intensity and vibrations. There were people who apparently did not pick up earplugs that were running out of the room at that point, crying and holding their ears. My ears were ringing for a few hours, even though I wore earplugs.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:00 PM
Tommy, your TG slander makes me sad :nono

locachica73
02-23-2009, 12:01 PM
and once the damage is done it can't be undone. I asked my doc about it and he said there is nothing they can do. :(

sin213
02-23-2009, 12:01 PM
intense. i'll have some that i'll use to sleep with...maybe i'll carry with me that day. probably won't need em, but wouldn't hurt i guess.

rage patton
02-23-2009, 12:02 PM
I would be jealous Salah.

sin213
02-23-2009, 12:02 PM
and once the damage is done it can't be undone. I asked my doc about it and he said there is nothing they can do. :(

another decade and they'll be able to grow you a new eardrum on the back of a mouse. or can inject stem cells into your ear and have it heal over.

locachica73
02-23-2009, 12:03 PM
in another decade ill be 46, ugh, that makes my heart hurt.

allyjoy
02-23-2009, 12:06 PM
Loca, the rule is once a woman hits 39, she stays 39 FOREVER!

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:08 PM
Nope, nothing. When it gets worse, we'll get to have hearing aids. :P So I'm trying to protect my ears now because I'd like not to be in that situation for at least another 30 years :)

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 12:08 PM
**This is off topic but Tommy I know I waited until the last minute for Acct. HW help but are you free this evening/tomorrow at all?

I have a paper due tonight that I'm gonna be finishing up and I have a sushi date tomorrow night. :(


fixed. And I still love you, you big bitch. *bro hugz*


*hugz*


Tommy, your TG slander makes me sad :nono


TG's assault on my ears makes ME sad. I'm trying to be as nice as possible when talking about them, but this is a message board so fuck it. They may be good performance art, unique, influential or whatever. But their music is downright horrible. Obviously this is IMO.

SOMEONE tried to tell me yesterday that NIN wouldn't be around if it wasn't for Throbbing Gristle. Whatever, that's fine. But that doesn't mean TG's music is worth a shit. So NIN took some elements of what TG was doing and made it listenable.

Kisses. :)

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:09 PM
There are many threads on the board talking about earplugs, these are the lowest end of what was suggested, and they work well enough without distorting sound very much:

http://hearos.com/earplugs/products-00211.html

locachica73
02-23-2009, 12:09 PM
Loca, the rule is once a woman hits 39, she stays 39 FOREVER!

Actually 38 is my scary age. We all have that age that makes us cringe, mine is 38 because that is the age I remember my mom being when I thought she was "old". So I think I will just be 37 forever.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:10 PM
Well, I fully disagree, obviously.

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 12:11 PM
I would be jealous Salah.

Catch is I would be trapped in that van with her boyfriend who I really don't like plus all of their trashy Keys friends that sorta piss the fuck out of me

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 12:12 PM
TG's assault on my ears makes ME sad. I'm trying to be as nice as possible when talking about them, but this is a message board so fuck it. They may be good performance art, unique, influential or whatever. But their music is downright horrible. Obviously this is IMO.

SOMEONE tried to tell me yesterday that NIN wouldn't be around if it wasn't for Throbbing Gristle. Whatever, that's fine. But that doesn't mean TG's music is worth a shit. So NIN took some elements of what TG was doing and made it listenable.

Kisses. :)

Ahem, industrial music and dark disturbing music in general wouldn't exist without Throbbing Gristle. You got to respect the innovators.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 12:12 PM
Well, I fully disagree, obviously.


Tell me what's appealing about the music without using the concepts of them being unique, influential or having a weird stage show. Just the music.

Chia, I still heart you. We're just bantering. :winkiss

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:13 PM
Actually 38 is my scary age. We all have that age that makes us cringe, mine is 38 because that is the age I remember my mom being when I thought she was "old". So I think I will just be 37 forever.

I think I'm lucky then, my mom was definitely not 'old' at 38. I was in grade school when she was 38, for god's sake. When she was like 50, she was still being hit on by my guy friends or boyfriends. I got tired of hearing "your mom is kinda hot". :nono

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 12:14 PM
Ahem, industrial music and dark disturbing music in general wouldn't exist without Throbbing Gristle. You got to respect the innovators.


I guess I respect them for influencing bands to make much better music than what they were making. Tell me what's so good about the actual music. That's what I want to know.

locachica73
02-23-2009, 12:15 PM
I think I'm lucky then, my mom was definitely not 'old' at 38. I was in grade school when she was 38, for god's sake. When she was like 50, she was still being hit on by my guy friends or boyfriends. I got tired of hearing "your mom is kinda hot". :nono

My mom was fully gray at 35 and refuses to dye her hair. Luckily at 36 I still get carded on a regular basis but I still dread the 38.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 12:18 PM
I guess I respect them for influencing bands to make much better music than what they were making. Tell me what's so good about the actual music. That's what I want to know.

Nothing sounded like that and NO ONE was doing what they were doing back then. Music taste is like taste in anything, either you like it or you don't. I like fairly odd things. Do you know who Merzbow is? Ami Yoshida? its not your typical Pitchfork music to say the least. If you wanted to try and drill down to what my musical taste is cross Jared and Amy and you have me. In the end, we all meet at Radiohead :thu

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:19 PM
Ahem, industrial music and dark disturbing music in general wouldn't exist without Throbbing Gristle. You got to respect the innovators.

Well, it's one thing to recognize/respect them and another to want to listen. I get that. There are a number of influential artists that I don't care for, while liking work that was derived from what they started.

I do happen to like Throbbing Gristle, though I like many of the bands that *followed* them and borrowed lightly from them, more than TG.

Tommy, I think the problem is that they are very difficult to describe. There is not an extremely consistent sound from album to album. I do not believe their set will sound like any of their albums either. As I mentioned, I saw them in 2007, and it was completely unlike any of their albums and is not what I'm expecting from Coachella either.

I think the problem might be that you're being told they're Industrial and you're thinking of.... NIN and similar, are not industrial even though that's a term that people usually throw around. If you've heard of Cabaret Voltaire, SPK, Clock DVA, etc, that is closer to what I'd consider directly derivative of TG. Trent definitely references TG but there are a number of intermediate bands that brought industrial-ish music to the place where Trent picked up.

feather
02-23-2009, 12:21 PM
In the end, we all meet at Radiohead :thu

Where I End, and You Begin!!!

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:23 PM
Tommy, here is an example of something they composed and played for the event I was at. As I said, it's not very much like what you'd expect after listening to a couple of random songs from random albums, right? It does show that they can do a bit more melodic music as well.

1TDJGt5Kr3A

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 12:23 PM
Where I End, and You Begin!!!

Indeed. Radiohead brings all the real music fans together.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:23 PM
And just to clarify, I'm not presenting that as an example of something that is "good" of theirs. Just saying it's not all banging noises and random sound ;)

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 12:26 PM
Nothing sounded like that and NO ONE was doing what they were doing back then. Music taste is like taste in anything, either you like it or you don't. I like fairly odd things. Do you know who Merzbow is? Ami Yoshida? its not your typical Pitchfork music to say the least. If you wanted to try and drill down to what my musical taste is cross Jared and Amy and you have me. In the end, we all meet at Radiohead :thu


I just don't buy the argument that unique = good. I don't respect them for doing something different if it's not good. I still haven't heard anything description of the music itself. You're right about one thing. Radiohead is the great unifier.


I think the problem might be that you're being told they're Industrial and you're thinking of.... NIN and similar, are not industrial even though that's a term that people usually throw around. If you've heard of Cabaret Voltaire, SPK, Clock DVA, etc, that is closer to what I'd consider directly derivative of TG. Trent definitely references TG but there are a number of intermediate bands that brought industrial-ish music to the place where Trent picked up.


I think the problem is I think it's way too non-linear and I don't like all the screaming. I haven't heard one song with him just singing. That's why I don't really like Animal Collective (aside from MPP) and that's why I think The Mars Volta is a train wreck in concert. It's way too disjointed for me and I just don't understand the appeal. It doesn't resemble music to me. Radiohead uses a lot of different sounds and it doesn't turn into chaos. It's well-layered and filled with harmonies.

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 12:27 PM
YES PLZ

QcqoP1HjiXs

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 12:28 PM
IRadiohead uses a lot of different sounds and it doesn't turn into chaos. It's well-layered and filled with harmonies.

and that is why Radiohead are god.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 12:29 PM
Tommy, here is an example of something they composed and played for the event I was at. As I said, it's not very much like what you'd expect after listening to a couple of random songs from random albums, right? It does show that they can do a bit more melodic music as well.

1TDJGt5Kr3A

GOLDENVOICE!!! THIS NEEDS TO GO ON THE MAIN STAGE!!! BEFORE MBV!!! PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN!

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 12:29 PM
Sorry pumpkin, Beck and Bowie is God

Blinken
02-23-2009, 12:30 PM
Indeed. Radiohead brings all the real music fans together.

and that is why Radiohead are god.


:rolleyes

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 12:32 PM
Sorry pumpkin, Beck and Bowie is God

Beck bows before Radiohead. Fact.

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 12:33 PM
Bullshit. He bows before no one except Scientology

Blinken
02-23-2009, 12:34 PM
Bullshit. He bows before no one except Scientology

He still blows goats.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:34 PM
Tommy, so by that token, you don't like electronic music? If music has to have singing?

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 12:34 PM
....Not that there's anything wrong with that

Blinken
02-23-2009, 12:35 PM
....Not that there's anything wrong with that

Of course not, I was just stating a fact. :thu

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 12:35 PM
Man I really wish he was playing :(

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 12:36 PM
GOLDENVOICE!!! THIS NEEDS TO GO ON THE MAIN STAGE!!! BEFORE MBV!!! PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN!


Sorry McMarco, TG isn't playing main stage (thank fuck). Chia, that video was the most tolerable I've seen from them. I still really didn't hear much melody, but it was kinda eerie and that was cool.


:rolleyes


We haven't had a spirited Radiohead debate in this thread yet. I wish I didn't have to go back to work and actually work or I'd break that out. I'm just gonna say, Blinken, that sometimes things really are as good as the hype they receive. Radiohead falls into that category for me. Of course this is IMO. I feel like some people don't think that's always implied on a message board.

But yeah, for my money Radiohead is the best band I've ever heard and deserve every ounce of praise it gets.

sin213
02-23-2009, 12:37 PM
yep. on TGs site, it states they will be in a tent around 7. i'd bet that means sahara @ sunset.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 12:38 PM
I am planing on checking out TG, but am not doing any research on their music because that would be pointless.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 12:39 PM
Tommy, so by that token, you don't like electronic music? If music has to have singing?


I like some electronic music. I like it when I can dance to it, not to listen to at home on my headphones (save for Daft Punk). I don't mind instrumental things at all. I like Explosions in the Sky and Pelican. It just has to be linear for me to like it. And if there are vocals, I'd prefer the lead vocalist didn't just scream or yelp into the mic.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:53 PM
Blinken, I totally agree. Watching some YT videos of recent live performances might give you some indication, but I think it's one of those things where, if you have any interest, you should just show up and give it a try, and if it doesn't strike your fancy, move on to something that does.

And Tommy, that's the thing -- a lot of electronic music is not danceable. This is not for the most part. I'm not trying to force you to listen to it or like it. It's just... not your nieces banging pots. :)

chiapet
02-23-2009, 12:54 PM
And if there are vocals, I'd prefer the lead vocalist didn't just scream or yelp into the mic.

This is what a lot of metal sounds like to me, especially speed / thrash / etc. So to each his own. :)

chiapet
02-23-2009, 01:08 PM
Back to growing old... :) I think my mom was going gray in her 30s but colored her hair a lot so I really don't know how gray she was. I have white hairs. ;) I didn't know until last year, because I always had oddly colored hair. Maybe they've been there for ages. I blame my job and its stresses :P

locachica73
02-23-2009, 01:11 PM
I have some gray, it is all in my part though so it is very noticable, but I color my hair regularly. Although I learned this weekend never to color your hair while high, you tend to miss a step or two. I forgot to put the gloves on that come with the instructions, half way through schmearing my head with the dye I realized this. My fingers are still brown. Smoking pot is bad mmmkay.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 01:12 PM
And Tommy, that's the thing -- a lot of electronic music is not danceable. This is not for the most part. I'm not trying to force you to listen to it or like it. It's just... not your nieces banging pots. :)


I do like Massive Attack a lot and that's a lot of electronic stuff that isn't very danceable. And are you saying my nieces suck at banging on pots?! :)


This is what a lot of metal sounds like to me, especially speed / thrash / etc. So to each his own. :)


I'm with you there. I went through my metal phase, but it's become very very annoying. There are some groups I still listen to every now and then (Mastodon and Pantera are a couple) but the genre as a whole just isn't to my liking anymore.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 01:12 PM
LOL... that's... got to be interesting, I'm sure. Rubbing alcohol should help?

chiapet
02-23-2009, 01:13 PM
Tommy, I'm not saying your nieces suck but I bet they won't develop a 30+ year long career of profitable pot-banging.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 01:14 PM
I'm with you there. I went through my metal phase, but it's become very very annoying. There are some groups I still listen to every now and then (Mastodon and Pantera are a couple) but the genre as a whole just isn't to my liking anymore.

So i take it you will be watching Mastodon, and possibly Down, with me.

sin213
02-23-2009, 01:20 PM
down!! that was an interesting find on the bill...

i'll definitely be at that set.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 01:21 PM
I'm with you there. I went through my metal phase, but it's become very very annoying. There are some groups I still listen to every now and then (Mastodon and Pantera are a couple) but the genre as a whole just isn't to my liking anymore.

Interestingly (or not), thrash is far more tolerable and even enjoyable in some instances, to me now than when it came out. I really wonder how it was so accessible at the time and wonder if masses of teenage boys weren't listening to it because they truly enjoyed it but because their parents hated it and the media hyped it as satanic or something. :)

Blinken
02-23-2009, 01:27 PM
down!! that was an interesting find on the bill...

i'll definitely be at that set.

Yeah, I am glad they are back on the lineup. I was pretty bummed when they were taken off the lineup for a day.

sin213
02-23-2009, 01:34 PM
i hadn't noticed that! good thing. it'll be cool to see them at a fest like that...phil all sloppy drunk in the middle of the afternoon, rex poundin the shit out of his bass, pepper shreddin up his guitar....damn, it's been a while since i last saw down.

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2009, 01:48 PM
I have NO IDEA what TG sounds like but hearing they influenced NIN, do they compare to Skinny Puppy? If so, how?

sin213
02-23-2009, 01:53 PM
they don't compare to anything. you just gotta check some of it out...

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 02:01 PM
So i take it you will be watching Mastodon, and possibly Down, with me.


Yes I will Blinken! We have to see the schedule, but I'm making every effort to see Mastodon and Down.


Tommy, I'm not saying your nieces suck but I bet they won't develop a 30+ year long career of profitable pot-banging.


Says you.


I have NO IDEA what TG sounds like but hearing they influenced NIN, do they compare to Skinny Puppy? If so, how?


Listen to them, Dylan. I want your honest opinion. Maybe I'm just the only asshole who doesn't like them. :)

chiapet
02-23-2009, 02:02 PM
Oh Tommy, we weren't saying you're an asshole because you don't like Throbbing Gristle. I mean, there are so many other reasons.

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2009, 02:05 PM
I'm sure elitist Tim hates them unless they have a hipster-ish sound, then he'll be all over them.

Give me 2-3 songs to youtube when I get home and I'll give them a listen.

When I hear Throbbing Gristle I think of John Candy eating "The Ol' 76er" in The Great Outdoors.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 02:16 PM
Oh Tommy, we weren't saying you're an asshole because you don't like Throbbing Gristle. I mean, there are so many other reasons.


:pulse


When I hear Throbbing Gristle I think of John Candy eating "The Ol' 76er" in The Great Outdoors.


You win the Bonnaroo thread for the day.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 02:18 PM
When I hear Throbbing Gristle I think of John Candy eating "The Ol' 76er" in The Great Outdoors.

Best movie ever.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 02:30 PM
I think Throbbing Gristle is an act very few people actually want to see, they just want to be able to say that they saw TG. Similar to Kraftwerk.


I agree, Gonshy. I don't understand the fuss about those Germans with laptops either. Influential, yadda yadda yadda. I know. Whatever.

Influential and unique does not mean it's good.

apostle2
02-23-2009, 02:35 PM
I knew from the minute I saw the poster I wouldn't be seeing TG due to conflicts. I unfortunately just have no interest, I'm glad it's looking like they'll be in the tent so I can camp for MBV and the cure

chiapet
02-23-2009, 02:35 PM
I think Throbbing Gristle is an act very few people actually want to see, they just want to be able to say that they saw TG. Similar to Kraftwerk.

Well, I've already seen them so that's not my stance. :) They simply do not tour -- last US tour was before most of you were born. So I think a lot of people want to see them in case it turns out to be enjoyable. They don't want it to be that set that turns out to be incredible and that they missed their chance to see.

Anyway, that being said, they are playing my city later in the week after Coachella, and I will be seeing them there... I still do plan on seeing them at Coachella too though.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 02:35 PM
I think Throbbing Gristle is an act very few people actually want to see, they just want to be able to say that they saw TG. Similar to Kraftwerk.

fuck you. Kraftwerk is fucking amazing. I flew to Japan just to see them back in 2002. Completely worth it. Even if the Japanese kids were moshing to Numbers.

Backwater
02-23-2009, 02:39 PM
I'm sure elitist Tim hates them unless they have a hipster-ish sound, then he'll be all over them.


I almost sig'ed this. The little I have heard of TG blows.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 02:40 PM
fuck you. Kraftwerk is fucking amazing. I flew to Japan just to see them back in 2002. Completely worth it. Even if the Japanese kids were moshing to Numbers.


How the fuck do you mosh to Numbers? Kraftwerk is overrated shit that people say they like just because it gives them more music cred. I've listened to their 2 most acclaimed albums all the way through and it was boring and uninteresting crap. At least they have pretty screens during their live shows.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 02:42 PM
How the fuck do you mosh to Numbers? Kraftwerk is overrated shit that people say they like just because it gives them more music cred. I've listened to their 2 most acclaimed albums all the way through and it was boring and uninteresting crap. At least they have pretty screens during their live shows.

Jesus Tommy...anyways. The Japanese mosh to the weirdest fucking things. From Coldplay to Kraftwerk.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 02:42 PM
Perhaps you misunderstood me. This wasn't a dig at Kraftwerk, it was referring to the feeling of how some people se influential bands. They might not be huge fans them, but they convince themselves they are important enough in music to see. I'm having a similar internal debate with Leonard Cohen right now.


I'm having the exact same debate with Leonard Cohen. I don't like his stuff, but I feel like I should see him. It'll all be clear when the schedule comes out. If it were a choice between Leonard Cohen and Kraftwerk, I would see Leonard Cohen every single time.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 02:43 PM
Perhaps you misunderstood me. This wasn't a dig at Kraftwerk, it was referring to the feeling of how some people se influential bands. They might not be huge fans them, but they convince themselves they are important enough in music to see. I'm having a similar internal debate with Leonard Cohen right now.

Oh, apologizes then.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 02:45 PM
Jesus Tommy...anyways. The Japanese mosh to the weirdest fucking things. From Coldplay to Kraftwerk.


Kraftwerk is boring. I really wanted to be into them when I threw them on my iPod, but it is just not real interesting. Especially in comparison to the better electronic music they ummm influenced.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 02:45 PM
which albums did you listen to?

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2009, 02:48 PM
The only person you should see even if you don't like him is Paul McCartney, duh.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 02:49 PM
The only person you should see even if you don't like them is Paul McCartney, duh.

QFT

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 02:51 PM
which albums did you listen to?


No matter which 2 albums I tell you I listened to, you're gonna tell me those aren't good representations of their work. But I'll play your game. I listened to Trans-Europe Express and Autobahn.

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2009, 02:53 PM
Why do you think I like drinking, Gonshy, because of its influence :)

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 02:54 PM
No matter which 2 albums I tell you I listened to, you're gonna tell me those aren't good representations of their work. But I'll play your game. I listened to Trans-Europe Express and Autobahn.

No I wasn't going to say that. Bitch. Anyhoo, my favorite albums are Man Machine and Computer World so pop those 2 in yeah? I like TEE but not as much as the other 2.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 02:55 PM
I enjoyed Kraftwerk's set, but it certainly wasn't life altering or anything. But I enjoy the albums.

Tommy, I almost feel like you're not recognizing the era in which both of these bands were composing music. It can't be compared to more current electronic music, because now artists have an incredible range of equipment, instruments, programs, to pull from. These bands pioneered the move to electronic equipment for both recording and live performance and even going so far as to create electronic instruments/equipment to achieve sounds that had never been heard before.... but which became a large part of what we think about when we discuss multiple genres of music... industrial, EBM, pretty much everything we'd consider 'electronic' music.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 02:56 PM
I find Trans-Europe Express a little boring MOSTLY because for like 10 years starting in the late 80s it was the hold music for every tech company or ISP I ever called. ;)

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:00 PM
I find Trans-Europe Express a little boring MOSTLY because for like 10 years starting in the late 80s it was the hold music for every tech company or ISP I ever called. ;)

really? I think I would die of a heart attack if I was ever placed on hold and the music was Kraftwerk.

amyzzz
02-23-2009, 03:00 PM
Kraftwerk was very entertaining last year.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:01 PM
True story. Kraftwerk at Bonnaroo with a late night set would cause me to lose my mind. True story.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:01 PM
Tommy, I almost feel like you're not recognizing the era in which both of these bands were composing music. It can't be compared to more current electronic music, because now artists have an incredible range of equipment, instruments, programs, to pull from. These bands pioneered the move to electronic equipment for both recording and live performance and even going so far as to create electronic instruments/equipment to achieve sounds that had never been heard before.... but which became a large part of what we think about when we discuss multiple genres of music... industrial, EBM, pretty much everything we'd consider 'electronic' music.


I understand that it was probably GREAT in that time period. But we're in a new age with much better options than Kraftwerk. Props to them for setting the foundation. Just like props to Space Invaders for setting the foundation for Halo. I'm sure Atari games were great for the time period and were very influential, but video game fans (which I am not) have much better options now.

paulb
02-23-2009, 03:02 PM
Kraftwerk....so amazing at Coachella.....but not even close to Portishead.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:03 PM
Tommy, I feel like I could make your last argument, of, say, Paul McCartney. Influential, incredible for his time, and there are better options now.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:03 PM
portiswerk killed all other festivals.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:03 PM
Kraftwerk was very entertaining last year.


Was Kraftwerk entertaining or were the screens entertaining?



True story. Kraftwerk at Bonnaroo with a late night set would cause me to lose my mind. True story.


It's like I don't even know you anymore.



*sigh* Kick some more shit, motherfuckers! :)

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:04 PM
really? I think I would die of a heart attack if I was ever placed on hold and the music was Kraftwerk.

Very very common, esp. early to mid-90s with ISPs. I'm sure it wasn't used legally or anything.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:04 PM
Tommy, I feel like I could make your last argument, of, say, Paul McCartney. Influential, incredible for his time, and there are better options now.


I agree. If The Black Keys play at the same time as McCartney then Macca can kiss my ass.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:05 PM
I understand that it was probably GREAT in that time period. But we're in a new age with much better options than Kraftwerk. Props to them for setting the foundation. Just like props to Space Invaders for setting the foundation for Halo. I'm sure Atari games were great for the time period and were very influential, but video game fans (which I am not) have much better options now.

for the record SNES had the best games.


Tommy, I feel like I could make your last argument, of, say, Paul McCartney. Influential, incredible for his time, and there are better options now.

I was going to say the same thing....


I agree. If The Black Keys play at the same time as McCartney then Macca can kiss my ass.

there is so much fail in this quote here.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:09 PM
Okay, so we all agree then that there are going to be artists or bands which are going to be a draw for *some* people based on that prior history and their influence, rather than how contemporary or commercially viable their music is now.

FWIW, I don't think Kraftwerk had any business being on the main stage last year. I think their show would have worked as well or better in a tent. But, GV probably realized that a lot of people who wanted to see Portishead would also see Kraftwerk, and there wasn't anything else at that time slot that really "needed" to be on the main stage.

FWIW, Portishead was not earth moving. Good god, people. They're just a band. I loved the hell out of them in 94 but they were definitely NOT the best set of that weekend.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:10 PM
Okay, so we all agree then that there are going to be artists or bands which are going to be a draw for *some* people based on that prior history and their influence, rather than how contemporary or commercially viable their music is now.

FWIW, I don't think Kraftwerk had any business being on the main stage last year. I think their show would have worked as well or better in a tent. But, GV probably realized that a lot of people who wanted to see Portishead would also see Kraftwerk, and there wasn't anything else at that time slot that really "needed" to be on the main stage.

FWIW, Portishead was not earth moving. Good god, people. They're just a band. I loved the hell out of them in 94 but they were definitely NOT the best set of that weekend.

who did you think had the best set?

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:11 PM
there is so much fail in this quote here.


I agree about the SNES comment.

Also, feel free to point out the fails in my quote. Bitch.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:12 PM
For me, it was Prince, but mostly because I've been a die-hard Prince fan since I was a tiny kid. Aphex twin was also very good. Beyond that, there were a bunch of sets that were good, enjoyable, but nothing epic. Coachella is the sum of its parts (or sets) for me.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:12 PM
Okay, so we all agree then that there are going to be artists or bands which are going to be a draw for *some* people based on that prior history and their influence, rather than how contemporary or commercially viable their music is now.

FWIW, I don't think Kraftwerk had any business being on the main stage last year. I think their show would have worked as well or better in a tent. But, GV probably realized that a lot of people who wanted to see Portishead would also see Kraftwerk, and there wasn't anything else at that time slot that really "needed" to be on the main stage.

FWIW, Portishead was not earth moving. Good god, people. They're just a band. I loved the hell out of them in 94 but they were definitely NOT the best set of that weekend.


You are very logical and this is why I like talking to you. FTR, I didn't go to Coachella last year so I can't comment on Portishead. I just really wanna see them at some point.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:13 PM
I agree about the SNES comment.

Also, feel free to point out the fails in my quote. Bitch.

tu madre guey. putio.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:15 PM
tu madre guey. pero te amo mucho puto.


Don't bore me with your Mexi ramblings.

And fuck you for editing that last part. Dickhead.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:15 PM
Tommy, I was very glad to "finally" get to see Portishead. My memory of them from their time of popularity was that either they didn't tour the states much, or I didn't let myself realize they toured the states because I had no money.

I enjoyed the set a lot. It just didn't change my life. :) Now, getting to see a show like that which ended up on the PNYC / Roseland CD might have.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:16 PM
Don't bore me with your Mexi ramblings. Te amo mucho puto tambien.

wait. Aren't you a mexicano tambien?

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:19 PM
What's your favorite Prince album? I've been searching for somone on this board who is as big of a Prince fanatic as I am!

That is really tough to answer, isn't it? I'm going to have to say Purple Rain. Partially because of the catchiness of the songs in terms of both music and lyrics. But mostly because I was obsessed with that movie once I heard the music.

Both me and one of my (male) exes claim that a definitive moment in our sexuality was seeing the video for "When Doves Cry" for the first time... the part when Prince slowly begins to stand up in the bathtub. *gulp*

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:22 PM
The prince album I listen to the most, though, is Dirty Mind. :)

Blinken
02-23-2009, 03:24 PM
Perhaps you misunderstood me. This wasn't a dig at Kraftwerk, it was referring to the feeling of how some people se influential bands. They might not be huge fans them, but they convince themselves they are important enough in music to see. I'm having a similar internal debate with Leonard Cohen right now.


I'm having the exact same debate with Leonard Cohen. I don't like his stuff, but I feel like I should see him. It'll all be clear when the schedule comes out. If it were a choice between Leonard Cohen and Kraftwerk, I would see Leonard Cohen every single time.

Yeah I am in the same boat, I really find him boring and can't stand most of the songs i have heard of his. I doubt i will watch him, but you never know. I have decided that i am avoiding The Cure though.


The only person you should see even if you don't like him is Paul McCartney, duh.

Tell that to Ally.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:25 PM
Why you avoiding the Cure Blinken?

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:27 PM
So far I'm incredibly neutral on Leonard Cohen. I don't plan on seeing him unless there's nothing else going on at that time.

amyzzz
02-23-2009, 03:29 PM
The gestalt of the Kraftwerk performance was entertaining. I like the music. I don't listen to it all the time, but it's fun. I regret not seeing them in 2004.

paulb
02-23-2009, 03:29 PM
Cohen....might as well see him at Coachella, he is charging $549 for his show here in Vancouver....and 90+ for the cheap seats.

sin213
02-23-2009, 03:30 PM
So far I'm incredibly neutral on Leonard Cohen. I don't plan on seeing him unless there's nothing else going on at that time.

i have a feeling that patton/rahzel will be going on at sunset, just as cohen takes the main stage at sunset. there is no way i'll miss patton. which will piss me off, cause I want to catch cohen. his ticket prices are outrageous, so coachella is my chance.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 03:31 PM
FWIW, Portishead was not earth moving. Good god, people. They're just a band. I loved the hell out of them in 94 but they were definitely NOT the best set of that weekend.

See I didn't enjoy Portishead at first and really didn't think they would translate live. Me and my buddy decided that the only to get it was to eat some shrooms and listen to them. We were blown away and they quickly jumped up to the number one band for the weekend. We actually repeated the process a couple times before Coachella. Then at coach it was the best performance I have ever seen, true the shrooms had a little to do with that but I still get chills when i listen to the Coachella set.

I have had the oppisite happen this year though the more i listen to new bands the less excited i am getting for Coachella.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:31 PM
Cohen....might as well see him at Coachella, he is charging $549 for his show here in Vancouver....and 90+ for the cheap seats.

Jesus...his red rocks tickets are going to be more then Coachella...

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:31 PM
If it's a matter of Patton or Cohen, then I probably will see Cohen. :)

But he was higher onto my list until I listened to his music and realized... yea, I'm not really into this. :)

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:32 PM
Cohen....might as well see him at Coachella, he is charging $549 for his show here in Vancouver....and 90+ for the cheap seats.


Would you see Hannah Montana if she played Coachella too, Pauly? What a fuckin horrible worthless argument you just made.....

sin213
02-23-2009, 03:32 PM
Cohen....might as well see him at Coachella, he is charging $549 for his show here in Vancouver....and 90+ for the cheap seats.

yeah, it's $250, $175, $115 and $82.50 for worst seats...

out of my price range...

there are only about 5 artists in which that would be a "worth it" cost for a show.

amyzzz
02-23-2009, 03:32 PM
Portishead was the best performance I have ever seen anywhere. A little too short but I didn't care at the time.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:33 PM
Hrmmm, Blinken, see with situations like that though I'd have to question was it really just a good drug experience or was the music that good. I was at that set, the music wasn't mind blowing. It must have been your shrooms ;)

Blinken
02-23-2009, 03:33 PM
Why you avoiding the Cure Blinken?

I have given them a chance and can't stand the music, just not my cup of tea at all.

sin213
02-23-2009, 03:33 PM
too gloomy

i may be at the cure, but probably not.

paulb
02-23-2009, 03:33 PM
Would you see Hannah Montana if she played Coachella too, Pauly? What a fuckin horrible worthless argument you just made.....

there was no argument...I just said, might as well. you having your period or somethin?

Blinken
02-23-2009, 03:34 PM
Hrmmm, Blinken, see with situations like that though I'd have to question was it really just a good drug experience or was the music that good. I was at that set, the music wasn't mind blowing. It must have been your shrooms ;)

The live show is still amazing when I am sober and listening to it on my Ipod. So I am going to say the music was just that good. Roger Waters though was probably just the drugs.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 03:35 PM
too gloomy

i may be at the cure, but probably not.

Not even that for me, I like gloomy. It is too New Wavey for me.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:36 PM
I don't know, Blinken. Once you experience something like that, it's hard to listen without incorporating your memories and emotions from that event. (I have that problem with quite a few bands who are not stellar, but are to *me* because of some association).

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:36 PM
Blinken, I'm not going to try to talk you into liking the Cure, but they are not new wave-y. At all. You need to stop saying that. :)

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 03:36 PM
What's your favorite Prince album? I've been searching for somone on this board who is as big of a Prince fanatic as I am!

I'm quite partial to 1999



Not even that for me, I like gloomy. It is too New Wavey for me.

They're not new wave

sin213
02-23-2009, 03:38 PM
old wave...80's style.


AND WE'VE MADE IT TO PAGE 420!

smoke em if you got em!

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:40 PM
Sorry, no, they were never -wave of any sort. :) Post-punk, or I'll give you ''''alternative'''' music, when it was a genre and not just.... all music that's not on the oldies station. And they did have some terribly goth rock periods though I'm not sure they would have ever considered themselves a goth band.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 03:40 PM
I don't know, Blinken. Once you experience something like that, it's hard to listen without incorporating your memories and emotions from that event. (I have that problem with quite a few bands who are not stellar, but are to *me* because of some association).

You might be right, but for me it is the best show i have ever seen hands down. I have seen many other shows on other substances and shrooms as well they don't come close to that one.


Blinken, I'm not going to try to talk you into liking the Cure, but they are not new wave-y. At all. You need to stop saying that. :)

Really Lovesong is not New wavey? Maybe it is just me that thinks that. i am not saying they are New Wave, just that some elements of it are in their music.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:41 PM
Blinken, has someone gotten you to download and listen to Three Imaginary Boys (or Boys Don't Cry, in the US release)? I'd be surprised if you think that album is 'new wave'. The subsequent albums were a bit goth, maybe, but not wave.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:42 PM
there was no argument...I just said, might as well. you having your period or somethin?


What of it?

Blinken
02-23-2009, 03:43 PM
Blinken, has someone gotten you to download and listen to Three Imaginary Boys (or Boys Don't Cry, in the US release)? I'd be surprised if you think that album is 'new wave'. The subsequent albums were a bit goth, maybe, but not wave.

That one I actually liked, i doubt they will play much from it though and i don't want to wait around for a few songs.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:44 PM
Really Lovesong is not New wavey? Maybe it is just me that thinks that. i am not saying they are New Wave, just that some elements of it are in their music.

No. :)

Firstly, that song came out in 1989, when new wave had been successfully killed off already.

And that's not really a great example of what the Cure sounds like. I like the song OK but it's not even close to being my favorite (not in my top 100 Cure songs, OK?), and it not very representative of what they'd play.

Again, not trying to convince you to see a band you don't think you'll like, but I have to wonder what you've heard when you describe them this way.

paulb
02-23-2009, 03:44 PM
What of it?

you tired of your softboy image or something?

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:46 PM
you tired of your softboy image or something?


I really should've cock punched you in Vegas when I had the chance.

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:48 PM
That one I actually liked, i doubt they will play much from it though and i don't want to wait around for a few songs.

When I've seen them, they've played over half of that album. Including encores that are JUST songs from that album. They played Boys Don't Cry, 10:15 Saturday Night, Jumping Someone Else's Train, Killing an Arab, Fire in Cairo, Grinding Halt.

It's hard to say what they'll play without knowing the set time, but I would expect it to mostly be the first album, The Head on the Door and Disintegration.

paulb
02-23-2009, 03:48 PM
I really should've cock punched you in Vegas when I had the chance.

people with Radiohead tattoos dont really cock punch people....

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 03:48 PM
Did I hear cock punch?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:53 PM
people with Radiohead tattoos dont really cock punch people....

Tommy has a Radiohead tattoo? Does that make me more hardcore then Supre?

chiapet
02-23-2009, 03:53 PM
I guess the "problem" with the Cure is that they have so many songs that are incredible and well recognized that you don't have any guarantees of specific songs at their shows.

But don't judge them by Lovesong. That's right down there with "Friday I'm in Love" (ugh).

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:53 PM
Did I hear cock punch?

Balls.

paulb
02-23-2009, 03:55 PM
Tommy has a Radiohead tattoo? Does that make me more hardcore then Supre?

Tommy does...and its blue........


BALLS

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 03:57 PM
Balls?

amyzzz
02-23-2009, 03:57 PM
Lovesong and Friday I'm in Love are good songs. WTF is wrong with you???

;)

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 03:58 PM
He listens to generic as fuck radio rock instead :rolleyes

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:58 PM
people with Radiohead tattoos dont really cock punch people....


Only people with Lamb of God tattoos.

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 03:59 PM
He listens to generic as fuck radio rock instead :rolleyes


Did someone forget to sign out of their alias?

paulb
02-23-2009, 03:59 PM
Only people with Lamb of God tattoos.

exactly....you wont see a wall of death at a Radiohead concert either, lol.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-23-2009, 03:59 PM
Only people with Lamb of God tattoos.

Someone just got told.

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 04:00 PM
Did someone forget to sign out of their alias?

wha you talk bout? I cherita chen! CHUT UP!!

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:02 PM
He listens to generic as fuck radio rock instead :rolleyes

You mean like the Killers?

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 04:02 PM
exactly....you wont see a wall of death at a Radiohead concert either, lol.


Radiohead fans don't need to beat the shit out of each other to enjoy a show. Because there's actual good music going on.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:03 PM
Radiohead fans don't need to beat the shit out of each other to enjoy a show. Because there's actual good music going on.

No the just try to get as close as possible to suck Thom's cock and crush everyone in their way.

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2009, 04:03 PM
You guys can only talk about BALLZ when Feather is around!

TommyboyUNM
02-23-2009, 04:04 PM
No the just try to get as close as possible to suck Thom's cock and crush everyone in their way.


In Supre's defense, I think it's Johnny's cock he's trying to suck.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:04 PM
In Supre's defense, I think it's Johnny's cock he's trying to suck.

Well that changes everything.

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 04:05 PM
No the just try to get as close as possible to suck Thom's cock and crush everyone in their way.

ewww it all about Jonny


In Supre's defense, I think it's Johnny's cock he's trying to suck.

:thu

paulb
02-23-2009, 04:06 PM
In Supre's defense, I think it's Johnny's cock he's trying to suck.

seriously, you have their logo tattooed on you, and you dont even know how to spell the guitarists name, Jonny Greenwood.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:07 PM
seriously, you have their logo tattooed on you, and you dont even know how to spell the guitarists name, Jonny Greenwood.

Awesome

sbessiso
02-23-2009, 04:11 PM
Time for a new sig, Blink

chiapet
02-23-2009, 04:14 PM
amyzzz, those are not even close to being the Cure's best songs. Not at all. Lovesong is fine, like I said. Friday I'm in Love???? :nono :nono :nono :nono

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:17 PM
Time for a new sig, Blink

WTF are you talking about.

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 04:18 PM
magique!!

chiapet
02-23-2009, 04:19 PM
Why did this thread go to balls? :(

paulb
02-23-2009, 04:20 PM
how old are you chiapet?

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 04:20 PM
Did it? It's maintained the same level for quite some time now

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:20 PM
Why did this thread go to balls? :(

Cherita Chen.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:21 PM
how old are you chiapet?

somewhere around 50 ;)

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 04:21 PM
:eek:!!!

I just a Bonnaroo fan too

chiapet
02-23-2009, 04:21 PM
somewhere around 50 ;)

:P whatever

I am 32.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:23 PM
:eek:!!!

I just a Bonnaroo fan too

Stop lying, you just want some sweaty balls.

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 04:24 PM
Only Darko's

paulb
02-23-2009, 04:24 PM
:P whatever

I am 32.

dont worry, you're young

chiapet
02-23-2009, 04:25 PM
Never said I wasn't. :)

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:26 PM
Only Darko's
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/Hallick5/thats_racist_animated.gif

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 04:27 PM
Mainstage before NIN plz

http://innerjoejoe.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/jake-gyllenhaal_shirtless.jpg

paulb
02-23-2009, 04:27 PM
oh god, gross.

amyzzz
02-23-2009, 04:28 PM
I guess they're not the best songs, but they're pretty good. The Cure have SO MANY SONGS.

Blinken
02-23-2009, 04:28 PM
I think Cherita needs a good old fashioned cunt punch.

Cherita Chen
02-23-2009, 04:28 PM
mainstage before Beasties plz

http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/scarlett_johansson_allure.jpg