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TallGuyCM
06-08-2010, 01:07 AM
I watched Ingmar Bergman's The Seventh Seal tonight. And I was completely entranced by it. I had heard mixed reviews from different people going into it, but found it to be completely to my liking.

This was only my second Bergman film, but I liked it a bit more than Wild Strawberries. With how religiously crippled the US has been since its birth, it was really something to watch a film from another part of the world that was made in the late '50s address theological issues in such a way.

Everything here, especially back then, was always so cautious, so guilt-stricken, so fearful. The freedom with which the film seemed to address and often times doubt the existence of God was so completely refreshing, and coincidentally in line with where I stand with the issue right now which might be why I embraced the film with such open arms.

And Gunnar Bjornstrand's portrayal of Jons the squire was absolutely my favorite character in a film in recent memory. The scenes where he and the blacksmith go on and on about the uselessness of women, and the scene where he feeds the blacksmith his lines during an argument were especially well done.

buddy
06-08-2010, 01:17 AM
Fanny and Alexander and Scenes from a Marriage are also some quality Bergman. Franny's somewhat autobiographical of his childhood, and it's also on netflix instant.

sonofhal
06-08-2010, 01:26 AM
Quick, everybody. Little Otik or Eraserhead? I haven't seen either.

A bit late, but Little Otik is ace.

TallGuyCM
06-08-2010, 01:35 AM
Fanny and Alexander and Scenes from a Marriage are also some quality Bergman. Franny's somewhat autobiographical of his childhood, and it's also on netflix instant.

Cool, thanks. I'm always open to recommendations, especially when it comes to foreign film.

tessalasset
06-08-2010, 02:56 AM
I just ended up watching this entire movie when I was only meaning to watch the trailer.

http://www.snagfilms.com/films/watch/confessions_of_a_superhero/

tessalasset
06-08-2010, 02:56 AM
wow i love the abbreviation in that link.

schoolofruckus
06-08-2010, 07:04 AM
Chris, you should give The Virgin Spring a shot in regards to Bergman. It has some of the same heavy-handed qualities that I didn't like about Seventh Seal - and which seemingly didn't bother you whatsoever - but overall, I think it's a much more powerful rumination on the loss of faith.

Also, you should watch Tarkovsky's The Sacrifice, which was made in Sweden with a lot of Bergman's collaborators. Like all of Tarkovsky's movies, it's far better than Seventh Seal or Virgin Spring.

I have Persona near the top of my Netflix queue.

schoolofruckus
06-08-2010, 07:05 AM
And I'm still undecided on 10 hours of Cremaster this weekend. I will almost certainly join you for some of it, but I'm not sure if I'm going to do the whole thing in one sitting.

Down Rodeo
06-08-2010, 11:21 AM
Also, you should watch Tarkovsky's The Sacrifice, which was made in Sweden with a lot of Bergman's collaborators. Like all of Tarkovsky's movies, it's far better than Seventh Seal or Virgin Spring.

I have Persona near the top of my Netflix queue.

Gabe, you have excellent opinions on film but I just can't stand by this. Those films are all equally great in my mind.

I'm also shocked you haven't seen Persona yet. I think you'll enjoy it a lot, but I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-08-2010, 12:57 PM
I watched Blindness last night...what a bleak film. It's extremely uneven and weirdly paced, but I still liked it.

amyzzz
06-08-2010, 01:00 PM
Someone help me convince Jacob to watch Silent Light with me. It's on our Netflix queue, and we only have instant Netflix on one TV, and I don't know if I'll get to watch it unless he is convinced to watch it with me. He saw the words "Mennonite extramarital affair" and he dozed off.

humanoid
06-08-2010, 01:23 PM
what kind of man dozes off upon seeing the words "Mennonite extramarital affair"? I thought those were universal attention magnets

amyzzz
06-08-2010, 01:26 PM
He wanted to watch some stupid Justice League cartoon instead. WTF? This is what I have to deal with everyday.

paulb
06-08-2010, 03:19 PM
I watched Eraserhead and Dead Ringers for the first time ever yesterday....pretty good stuff...and now im watching Pink Flamingos and damn its fucked up

schoolofruckus
06-08-2010, 04:00 PM
I think there probably isn't a way to really convince someone who wants to watch Justice League that they should be watching Silent Light.

But it's a film that has the power to make a staunch atheist feel a distinct God-like presence in every single frame. It's seriously one of the most visually incredible movies of recent times - not merely pretty or even beautiful, but transcendent.

Plus, yeah, the whole Mennonites fukking thing.

amyzzz
06-08-2010, 04:03 PM
He's going through a meathead masculine phase, and art movies do not fit into that genre.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-08-2010, 04:19 PM
I enjoy both Justice League cartoons and art films. Added Silent Light to my queue today. how are the director's other films? The reviews are pretty mixed on Netflix for most of them.

schoolofruckus
06-08-2010, 04:33 PM
Japon is fucking great. Battle in Heaven is really provocative (just look at the DVD cover for fuck's sake), but I think it's pretty uneven. Silent Light is his masterpiece heretofore, in my opinion.

I think that a lot of reviews of his work - particularly in aggregate review systems like Netflix - will be hurt by the fact that he features a lot of unattractive/overweight/elderly people having graphic sex in his movies. Some people just have a hard time with that sort of material. Silent Light isn't nearly as bad as the other two in this regard.

amyzzz
06-08-2010, 04:34 PM
will be hurt by the fact that he features a lot of unattractive/overweight/elderly people having graphic sex in his movies.
oh fuck.

schoolofruckus
06-08-2010, 04:36 PM
Just kill your husband already and watch the damn movie.

OnlyNonStranger
06-08-2010, 04:45 PM
So I just watched Paper Heart and wtf, was that real? Very strange.

Down Rodeo
06-08-2010, 04:51 PM
You know, Syndromes and a Century did very little for me, but the trailer for Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives looks fucking great.

Jk-EoUb0nvg

schoolofruckus
06-08-2010, 05:08 PM
HELL yes. Great find, Daniel. I'm super excited for this; I thought Syndromes and a Century was excellent, but this looks even better.

paulb
06-08-2010, 05:38 PM
Ok, Pink Flamingos was definitely the filthiest film ive ever seen......what else should I download?

Alchemy
06-08-2010, 10:06 PM
I saw Moon today. Loved it.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-08-2010, 11:35 PM
Tokyo Gore Police is one of the most entertaining things I have seen in a long time.

schoolofruckus
06-09-2010, 07:42 AM
There's a super-fucked Filipino film called Kinatay playing in San Francisco on Saturday. I've been waiting for this one since Cannes last year, where it won Best Director. Sounds like it will be pretty brutal, but I would be all over this if I lived up there.

Link. (http://www.ybca.org/tickets/production/view.aspx?id=11170&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Post&utm_campaign=FV-Kinatay)

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-09-2010, 09:18 AM
There's a super-fucked Filipino film called Kinatay playing in San Francisco on Saturday. I've been waiting for this one since Cannes last year, where it won Best Director. Sounds like it will be pretty brutal, but I would be all over this if I lived up there.

Link. (http://www.ybca.org/tickets/production/view.aspx?id=11170&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Post&utm_campaign=FV-Kinatay)

Hmm, I am actually in SF this weekend. We're doing Napa Saturday but should be back in the city well before this. if we're not throwing up and falling asleep I think my friends would be down for this.

amyzzz
06-09-2010, 09:44 AM
We tried watching Thirst last night, but couldn't get through it all. It was too damn long for what it was and really needed some editing. (Korean Catholic priest vampire/love-hate sexual relationship with childhood friend story). I think we still have a half hour left to go, but I'm not sure what other loose ends could be tied up unless his (newly-made) vampire girlfriend takes over the world or perhaps the mother-in-law also becomes a vampire.

rage patton
06-09-2010, 10:37 AM
I went and saw Get Him To The Greek last night and it was much better than I thought. It started off kind of slow,but built up speedy really quickly once the story really started to unfold. Anyways, yeah, I would suggest going to see it. It also had some great cameos. Lars Ulrich was my favorite.

If life hands you a Geoffery, you have got to pet the furry walls.

schoolofruckus
06-09-2010, 10:40 AM
We tried watching Thirst last night, but couldn't get through it all. It was too damn long for what it was and really needed some editing. (Korean Catholic priest vampire/love-hate sexual relationship with childhood friend story). I think we still have a half hour left to go, but I'm not sure what other loose ends could be tied up unless his (newly-made) vampire girlfriend takes over the world or perhaps the mother-in-law also becomes a vampire

I think the real ending was some combination of the two.

amyzzz
06-09-2010, 10:44 AM
Any recommendations on what to see at my closest arty movie theatre? Sorry, I haven't heard of any of these, and tonight is date night. If not these, then I might try to see the Nightmare on Elm St remake or Get Him to the Greek. :rolleyes

Casino Jack and the United States of Money (R, 118 min)

The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo (subtitled) (Not Rated, 152 min)

Harry Brown (R, 103 min)

Please Give (R, 90 min)

The Secret in Their Eyes (subtitled) (R, 129 min)

I.F.A.
06-09-2010, 01:25 PM
I've heard really good things about The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, though I've not seen it yet. I think Ivy saw it and liked it though.

Alchemy
06-09-2010, 08:40 PM
I just watched The Road. I thought it did a good job at capturing the book. Both were really bleak and sad. The story doesn't really have too many exciting turns, but it's a beautiful portrait of a post-apocalyptic world. And that's the reason to watch it, I think. I gave it 4 stars on Netflix.

TallGuyCM
06-10-2010, 01:03 AM
Just watched Silent Light. I usually keep a light on in the corner of the room when I watch movies, I don't know why. It doesn't really distract much. But from the first 5 seconds of this one I turned everything out. The opening and closing sequences were absolutely dazzling, I've never seen anything like that.

And the film itself was really good. If they didn't do it right, that could have easily been the most mundane flick of all time, what with the setting and the people and what not. But there was something very interesting, very captivating about the whole thing. Maybe part of what kept me intrigued was the flow of the dialogue. It was really easy to follow and was even sparse at times.

I'm pretty sure I'm the last one on here who hadn't seen it, but check it out if you haven't.

GoEastYoungMan
06-10-2010, 03:42 AM
Tokyo Gore Police is one of the most entertaining things I have seen in a long time.

Then you should probably check out The Machine Girl.

daxton
06-10-2010, 06:44 AM
So I just watched Paper Heart and wtf, was that real? Very strange.

I enjoyed that one. I'm guessing not real.

schoolofruckus
06-10-2010, 07:46 AM
Just watched Silent Light. I usually keep a light on in the corner of the room when I watch movies, I don't know why. It doesn't really distract much. But from the first 5 seconds of this one I turned everything out. The opening and closing sequences were absolutely dazzling, I've never seen anything like that.

And the film itself was really good. If they didn't do it right, that could have easily been the most mundane flick of all time, what with the setting and the people and what not. But there was something very interesting, very captivating about the whole thing. Maybe part of what kept me intrigued was the flow of the dialogue. It was really easy to follow and was even sparse at times.

I'm pretty sure I'm the last one on here who hadn't seen it, but check it out if you haven't.

Amy hasn't seen it because her husband is into watching Power Rangers or some shit.

But I'm super happy that you liked it.

amyzzz
06-10-2010, 09:14 AM
Justice League, Gabe ("omg James Woods does one of the voices!"). I will check it out this weekend.

edit: and what the fuck? There is absolutely nothing out at the theatres that I want to see. We skipped the theatre and went to bed early. Meh.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-10-2010, 09:37 AM
Then you should probably check out The Machine Girl.

Yes, i plan of watching that ASAP along with The Samurai Princess, which is supposed to be along the same lines. The Machine Girl's director's follow-up, Robo-Geisha, looks amazing too.

GoEastYoungMan
06-10-2010, 09:56 AM
The Robo-Geisha summary from Netflix - "Director Noboru Iguchi and gore master Yoshihiro Nishimura team up for this hyper-violent and hilariously grotesque depiction of a very angry army of butt sword-wielding geisha robots with enough strength to embed tempura shrimp in villains' eyes. Special effects in Iguchi's (Machine Girl) over-the-top, feminist melodrama include chainsaw lips, blood-spouting buildings, geisha transformers, machine gun bras and some basic decapitations." LMFAO.

Had not heard of The Samurai Princess, but it's on Netflix Watch Instantly so I just added it. I'm sure my wife will be aching to see this "gore fest that features breast grenades, detachable chainsaw limbs, deadly guitar riffs and more." I managed to convince her to watch Tokyo Gore Police but that was only based upon her love for Audition and the presence of Eihi Shiina in TGP. Yeah. I think she's out for all future Japanese Gore films.

Any idea if the Watch Instantly versions of these movies are subtitled or dubbed? The latter is a deal breaker and I'll need to add them to the regular queue.

Geno_g
06-10-2010, 10:45 AM
Has this been posted, looks good but japan is pissed this is getting made...
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Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-10-2010, 10:52 AM
Any idea if the Watch Instantly versions of these movies are subtitled or dubbed? The latter is a deal breaker and I'll need to add them to the regular queue.

Tokyo Gore Police was subtitled, thankfully. The Robo-Geisha trailer was making the rounds a couple months ago and it looks CRAAAZY.


Has this been posted, looks good but japan is pissed this is getting made...


The Cove cam out last year and even won Best Documentary in the Academy Awards earlier this year. it was discussed at great length in the Oscars thread. Anyway, I haven't seen it and only saw that trailer for the first time on a dvd a couple nights ago and I am eager to see it.

In other news, I watched Brothers last night. It's uneven, but has some great performances. Toby Maguire does such a great fucking job, and it's nice to see Natalie Portman playing her age for once. She's been doing too many period pieces as of late. And Gyllenhall does a great job as well. I am very eager to watch the original now, which i assume is better.

amyzzz
06-10-2010, 10:54 AM
Dubbed Oldboy almost ruined it for me (on instant watch).

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-10-2010, 11:00 AM
If I try to watch a foreign movie on there and it's dubbed I instantly turn off and wait for the dvd. it's really bullshit that they do that.

amyzzz
06-10-2010, 11:01 AM
I wish they'd keep the dubbing to action movies.

Geno_g
06-10-2010, 11:24 AM
The Cove cam out last year and even won Best Documentary in the Academy Awards earlier this year. it was discussed at great length in the Oscars thread. Anyway, I haven't seen it and only saw that trailer for the first time on a dvd a couple nights ago and I am eager to see it.


Shoot, I'll have to watch it this weekend...

Nevermind watching right now...

bobert
06-10-2010, 11:29 AM
Hot Tub Time Machine was the funniest movie I've seen in a while. Don't remember laughing that hard in years. Rob Corddry is the man.

wmgaretjax
06-10-2010, 12:47 PM
Robo-Geisha was great.

full on idle
06-10-2010, 12:52 PM
I'm going to this (http://www.siff.net/festival/film/detail.aspx?id=43954&FID=166) on Saturday.

whynotsmile99
06-10-2010, 12:54 PM
Has this been posted, looks good but japan is pissed this is getting made...
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it's a great documentary, one of the best i've seen in years

whynotsmile99
06-10-2010, 12:56 PM
Dubbed Oldboy almost ruined it for me (on instant watch).

i watch a lot of foreign films on instant watch and they have always been subtitled. sad to hear they are dubbing some of these

guedita
06-10-2010, 01:00 PM
Re: The Cove. Fantastic documentary. Besides the subject material, which is intense and tough to deal with, the movie is shot very well and there's a good story arc. The fact that Japan is pissed about it being shown to it's citizens speaks volumes about the seriousness of the movie's content. People should watch this film!!!

Geno_g
06-10-2010, 02:22 PM
Re: The Cove. Fantastic documentary. Besides the subject material, which is intense and tough to deal with, the movie is shot very well and there's a good story arc. The fact that Japan is pissed about it being shown to it's citizens speaks volumes about the seriousness of the movie's content. People should watch this film!!!

I couldn't believe the cove and how bloody it was, and the diver just keeps looking for dead dolphin bodies, such a sad movie but great at the same time...

lunatic core
06-10-2010, 02:48 PM
Watched
From Paris with Love - Starts Slow, but I enjoyed the movie when it got going. Just an excuse to see Travolta act like a badass. Nothing Special

Shutter Island - I think my expectations where too high for this. I liked it, but I wasn't blown away by it like I thought I would be. I was epecting it to be something more memorable I think.

TallGuyCM
06-10-2010, 03:06 PM
Watched
From Paris with Love - Starts Slow, but I enjoyed the movie when it got going. Just an excuse to see Travolta act like a badass.

You just like to watch yourself on screen, be honest.

schoolofruckus
06-10-2010, 03:39 PM
I'm on the fence as to whether or not I want to watch The Cove. It doesn't seem like much of a documentary, honestly - I'm sure it sheds some light as to the extent of dolphin slaughtering in the Japanese fishing trade, but does it really tell you anything you don't know? I mean, am I going to suddenly realize that dolphin-killing is fucked after a lifetime of thinking otherwise? It sounds like it works best as a narrative story that just happens to actually be happening, but even then, it's pretty black-and-white in terms of character morality. I don't know...in spite of all the acclaim, I just don't think it sounds essential.

TallGuyCM
06-10-2010, 03:44 PM
Seven Samurai is one I've been waiting for years for the right time to see, and that time has come - the Egyptian is playing it on Saturday 5/15. Pretty excited.

Been panning back through this thread, and came across this.

...so?

schoolofruckus
06-10-2010, 04:21 PM
I didn't make it. I felt like shit and knew that it would be an endurance test to sit through a four hour movie. I'm now officially waiting for the Criterion blu-ray to drop, which I think happens next month.

chairmenmeow47
06-10-2010, 04:24 PM
i watched no sad songs for me while working from home today. oh man was that fucking SAD. margaret sullivan's voice sounded a LOT like bette davis'. the two women, mary & chris were both amazing. i didn't realize i was watching a young natalie wood until later either. while they did make mary a bit too angelic, i very much enjoyed the movie.

bmack86
06-10-2010, 04:52 PM
I watched Shutter Island today, and I thought it was a really enjoyable psychological thriller. I've enjoyed most of the films Scorsese and Leo have done together, and this was no exception. I think I'll need to watch it again to decide what I think actually happened in the movie, but it was good enough that I'm excited to see it again.

schoolofruckus
06-10-2010, 04:53 PM
I think it's really good technically - the sound design, in particular, was awesome - but honestly, I just found it boring. I liked it better than The Aviator, though. For me, Scorsese and Leo are really hit or miss because I think these two are Scorsese's worst films that I've seen, yet I really liked the other two (Gangs and Departed).

lunatic core
06-10-2010, 04:54 PM
You just like to watch yourself on screen, be honest.

I was actually going to refer to it as the "movie I star in", but I was worried people would miss the joke, because they didn't get it at work.

Also I just finished Legion, and its better than the steaming pile of crap I expected. Rented out of morbid curiousity.

chairmenmeow47
06-10-2010, 05:22 PM
i am watching the horror film that is jesus camp finally. holy shit. how did they get permission to film all of this?!

mountmccabe
06-10-2010, 05:34 PM
I think the people depicted are generally proud of what they're doing and want like-minded folks to join them.

That movie was scary. I had to pause it a couple times.

TallGuyCM
06-10-2010, 05:39 PM
I think it's really good technically - the sound design, in particular, was awesome - but honestly, I just found it boring. I liked it better than The Aviator, though. For me, Scorsese and Leo are really hit or miss because I think these two are Scorsese's worst films that I've seen, yet I really liked the other two (Gangs and Departed).

Yeah, I really didn't care for The Aviator. I don't mind long films, as long as there's a point to them being 2.5 plus hours. But the whole thing just seemed to meander around without much of a purpose.

I've actually never seen Gangs of New York. Commence flogging. ;)

chairmenmeow47
06-10-2010, 05:47 PM
I think the people depicted are generally proud of what they're doing and want like-minded folks to join them.

That movie was scary. I had to pause it a couple times.

so the parents gave permission? i understand the parents wanting to be seen as right or whatever, but it's sad that these kids are being shown this way. i didn't know what the fuck i was talking about at 9, or now for that matter lol.

schoolofruckus
06-10-2010, 09:01 PM
Yeah, I really didn't care for The Aviator. I don't mind long films, as long as there's a point to them being 2.5 plus hours. But the whole thing just seemed to meander around without much of a purpose.

I've actually never seen Gangs of New York. Commence flogging. ;)

You don't get flogged for not having seen Gangs of New York. If you haven't seen Taxi Driver, on the other hand, then you best go cut me a switch.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-10-2010, 09:07 PM
I have been coming across a disturbing amount of people who have recently seen Taxi Driver and say they hate it. With that particular movie, it really fucking pisses me off.

bmack86
06-10-2010, 09:23 PM
I haven't seen the Aviator, so I guess that's why I can support the Leo/Marty films I've seen. And, I was constantly entertained by Shutter Island. I blame your boredom on your love for all them thar action films Gabe. I think Michael Bay's got something new coming out.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-10-2010, 09:34 PM
I love all of the Leo/Martin movies, Aviator included. I am downright surprised by all of the hate that Shutter Island gets because I thought it was insanely entertaining. It's basically a big budget, beautiful, B-movie.

rage patton
06-10-2010, 09:43 PM
I liked Shutter Island... but the end felt like a cop out to me. And just for the record, I really liked The Aviator as well.

Down Rodeo
06-10-2010, 10:41 PM
I love all of the Leo/Martin movies, Aviator included. I am downright surprised by all of the hate that Shutter Island gets because I thought it was insanely entertaining. It's basically a big budget, beautiful, B-movie.

This.

lunatic core
06-10-2010, 10:50 PM
I just finished The Road. The feel good hit of the year right??
Right??

Seriously the style of the movie isn't out of my comfort zone at all, but it seems like post-apocalyptic movies usually have more going on than an obsession with despair and hopelessness. The ending seemed creepy as well.

TallGuyCM
06-10-2010, 11:25 PM
You don't get flogged for not having seen Gangs of New York. If you haven't seen Taxi Driver, on the other hand, then you best go cut me a switch.

I have indeed seen Taxi Driver. But it was over five years ago, needs a revisit soon.

bmack86
06-10-2010, 11:35 PM
I liked Shutter Island... but the end felt like a cop out to me. And just for the record, I really liked The Aviator as well.

I'm intrigued Josh, how did you interpret the end? When I finished with it, I felt like there was only one way to take it, but then I thought about it for a bit and now I've got two very conflicting views of how to interpret the film.

TallGuyCM
06-11-2010, 12:16 AM
I'm intrigued Josh, how did you interpret the end? When I finished with it, I felt like there was only one way to take it, but then I thought about it for a bit and now I've got two very conflicting views of how to interpret the film.

Can I ask that you guys discuss the ending over PM? I plan on renting it soon and don't want to have the ending ruined. :)

sbessiso
06-11-2010, 12:25 AM
Get Him to the Greek was surprisingly funny. Sort of screeches to a halt near the end with all its schmaltz but still entertaining. And diddy really IS funny in it!

i also rented Shoot Em Up and i just loved it. Everything i want from an action movie! Not 3 minutes into the movie Clive Owen brutally kills someone with a carrot, and it doesnt stop from there. The dialogue had just enough dry wit and the cast was perfect including paul giamatti being deliciously over-the-top evil. It was light on plot and kept going at a brisk pace, im not surprised it was a bomb but this deserves its own cult following. Drinkey if you havent seen it I imagine you would very much enjoy it. This sucker is VIOLENT

lunatic core
06-11-2010, 03:34 AM
And.. I just finished Boondock Saints II - All Saints Day.
I watched this movie with lowered expectations thatnks to a brutal review, and I pretty much got what I wanted from it. The music and editing were pretty bad, but mostly it was an ok trip through a Boondock Saints action ride, and the ending actually left me wanting more. Not something I would own or even likely watch again, but I am glad I rented it.

schoolofruckus
06-11-2010, 07:19 AM
I love all of the Leo/Martin movies, Aviator included. I am downright surprised by all of the hate that Shutter Island gets because I thought it was insanely entertaining. It's basically a big budget, beautiful, B-movie.

Bingo. I HATE big-budget B-movies - we're now going to rehash a conversation I've previously had regarding movies like Death Proof and The Happening - although let me start out by saying I liked Shutter Island a lot more than those two. It's one of my biggest pet peeves of contemporary cinema - all these masterful filmmakers who think it's some kind of great idea to spend a ton of money to make something purposefully low-grade, so they can "pay homage to the movies they grew up on" or whatever. It's fucking retarded. Now, if one of them actually wanted to go make an actual B-movie - on a B-movie budget - then I would at least have respect for that, although judging by my opinion of Robert Rodriguez it wouldn't necessarily change my opinion of the results. But on top of being boring, I think it's disingenuous to mount some big, comfy, well-paying production - where every problem that arises can be solved with spending rather than the kind of spontaneous ingenuity that real B-movie masters use to navigate their shoots - all in the service of making it appear like you're going down and dirty and back to your roots.

I think you were kidding, Bryan, but I'd honestly rather rewatch either Transformers movie over the ones listed above.

schoolofruckus
06-11-2010, 07:22 AM
I just finished The Road. The feel good hit of the year right??
Right??

Seriously the style of the movie isn't out of my comfort zone at all, but it seems like post-apocalyptic movies usually have more going on than an obsession with despair and hopelessness. The ending seemed creepy as well.

It was just boring. I've seen many great movies that were longer, slower, and more bleak; the problem with The Road is that there's no life to it. There's nothing going on inside the characters that isn't explicitly spelled out.

schoolofruckus
06-11-2010, 07:24 AM
Get Him to the Greek was surprisingly funny. Sort of screeches to a halt near the end with all its schmaltz but still entertaining. And diddy really IS funny in it!

i also rented Shoot Em Up and i just loved it. Everything i want from an action movie! Not 3 minutes into the movie Clive Owen brutally kills someone with a carrot, and it doesnt stop from there. The dialogue had just enough dry wit and the cast was perfect including paul giamatti being deliciously over-the-top evil. It was light on plot and kept going at a brisk pace, im not surprised it was a bomb but this deserves its own cult following. Drinkey if you havent seen it I imagine you would very much enjoy it. This sucker is VIOLENT

I thought Shoot 'Em Up was pretty successful at what it wanted to do. I don't really ever want to watch it again, but it worked on its own terms.

wmgaretjax
06-11-2010, 07:37 AM
all these masterful filmmakers who think it's some kind of great idea to spend a ton of money to make something purposefully low-grade

There is nothing low grade about Death Proof. And there is a big difference between making something intentionally low in quality, and something that shares stylistic similarities to older, low quality films. The market is oversaturated with these kinds of knockoffs... Tarantino might be the reason for that, but he's also making the best films of that kind.

bmack86
06-11-2010, 08:06 AM
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, Gabe. Let the hate flow through you.

schoolofruckus
06-11-2010, 08:49 AM
There is nothing low grade about Death Proof. And there is a big difference between making something intentionally low in quality, and something that shares stylistic similarities to older, low quality films. The market is oversaturated with these kinds of knockoffs... Tarantino might be the reason for that, but he's also making the best films of that kind.

It's totally low-grade. And your last point is why I think it's particularly egregious from Tarantino. He's always been the guy who elevates ostensibly schlocky material to great heights - because he writes amazing characters. But what is there to the characters in Death Proof? They're absolutely empty and boring. Their conversations have zero of the flavor and intrigue of those in his other films, and as a result, I was done with Death Proof by the time Zoe Bell even got onscreen.

wmgaretjax
06-11-2010, 09:01 AM
I'll take the characters in Death Proof over Jackie Brown any day of the week. Maybe I'm crazy, but I loved Death Proof. I was too stoned to remember the condensed version, but the DVD release kept me engaged easily.

schoolofruckus
06-11-2010, 09:48 AM
I'll take the characters in Death Proof over Jackie Brown any day of the week. Maybe I'm crazy, but I loved Death Proof. I was too stoned to remember the condensed version, but the DVD release kept me engaged easily.

I think you're crazy to take Death Proof over Jackie Brown, yes. I think Jackie Brown is sometimes overrated (I've heard people say it's Tarantino's best film), but I love it to death.

I.F.A.
06-11-2010, 09:52 AM
^ I don't know if I'd say that it's Tarantino's best, but Jackie Brown is probably my favorite of Tarantino's films. And, I understand why people like it, but I just couldn't get into Death Proof.

wmgaretjax
06-11-2010, 10:06 AM
Jackie Brown is boring, but there are some great moments. Death Proof is a riot, but ultra-shallow. Both are minor films from him. I'll leave it at that.

amyzzz
06-11-2010, 10:30 AM
Boring? Come on, it has great character development in between the great moments.

Down Rodeo
06-11-2010, 11:16 AM
Jackie Brown is indeed great. Sorry Jared.

chairmenmeow47
06-11-2010, 11:18 AM
jackie brown is my favourite to re-watch. it's the best story without gimmicks and a bunch of monologues that just feel like quentin tarentino ramblings about his thoughts on coffee and shit like that.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-11-2010, 11:21 AM
The morethat i think about and discuss Tarantino with people, the more I realize that i like all of his films almost equally. He makes some great fucking movies.

I.F.A.
06-11-2010, 11:22 AM
jackie brown is my favourite to re-watch. it's the best story without gimmicks and a bunch of monologues that just feel like quentin tarentino ramblings about his thoughts on coffee and shit like that.

Ha, you nailed it. I think that's probably because it's based on an outside source (Rum Punch, by Elmore Leonard), rather than being an original script that he came up with. Tarantino's great, don't get me wrong, but he can get a little to self-satisfied with the observational tangents and esoteric references that he pulls out. That's my take, anyway.

Though, Kill Bill is probably my favorite rewatch.

wmgaretjax
06-11-2010, 11:29 AM
the two people whose taste are most at odds with mine and the two whose taste are closest aligned with mine disagree with me... i feel strange.

Alchemy
06-11-2010, 12:44 PM
Death Proof is the only thing from Tarantino that I don't care to watch again. The second half of it wasn't too bad, but it was a little too silly for me. I love Jackie Brown, but probably not as much as the rest. Kill Bill is also my favorite Tarantino to re-watch, but I think Inglourious Basterds might be his best work (in my opinion). I was blown away by it.

full on idle
06-11-2010, 03:19 PM
Inglorious Basterds hit me like a baseball bat to the skull.

paulb
06-11-2010, 04:20 PM
What movie should I rent tonight? Lookin for something good, suspenseful?

stuporfly
06-11-2010, 04:38 PM
What movie should I rent tonight? Lookin for something good, suspenseful?

Strangers on a Train

paulb
06-11-2010, 04:48 PM
Strangers on a Train

good choice, seen it.... Have u seen Charade? I always loved that film.

corbo
06-11-2010, 05:05 PM
watched a lot of Luis Bu˝uel Films last week
"that obscure object of desire", "The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie", "the exterminating angel", "simon of the desert", "belle du jour". all awesome films!

my favorite one out of that bunch was the exterminating angel -
and odd, dark, and funny film about a group of wealthy individuals who
for some inexplicable reason are not able to leave a room. i loved it for its weirdness (there's bears, sheep, a walking ghost hand, a lady that carries chicken feet in her purse, etc etc) i still don't know what message he was trying to get across, does it even have one? i won't bother trying to get meaning out of it. i really enjoyed it though as i did the other films i mentioned.
will watch some more Luis Bu˝uel this weekend!

SoulDischarge
06-11-2010, 05:18 PM
I'll second the sentiment of Jackie Brown not being his best but being my favorite of his. 80% of that is probably due to Pam Grier. Bitch got presence. If you don't enjoy Death Proof you probably didn't drink enough before watching it.

The Exterminating Angel is one of my favorite Bunuel films as well. And yeah, it has meaning.

I watched Time Of The Wolf yesterday. One of the better Haneke films I've seen, although I kind of zoned out in the last half hour and stopped picking up on things. Still, he just let the characters just react to a morally ambiguous landscape instead of setting up some big point of chastising the audience for some moral shortcoming on their behalf, which is usually my main complaint with his films. So if you were annoyed by Funny Games but want to give Haneke another chance, this might be a good film to check out. I have no idea what the ending tracking shot was supposed to imply.

schoolofruckus
06-11-2010, 06:05 PM
Awesome. It's in the top 3 or 4 on my Netflix queue, so hopefully I will get to it soon.

Did you guys hear about the latest batch of Criterion titles that are going out of print? Discreet Charms and Object of Desire are on the list, as are three other Bunuels:

Billy Liar
Bob le flambeur
Diary of A Chambermaid
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Kind Hearts and Coronets
The Man Who Fell to Earth (DVD and Blu-ray editions)
The Milky Way
The Phantom of Liberty
That Obscure Object of Desire
Touchez pas au grisbi
A Woman Is a Woman


So Corbo, if you weren't watching copies that you owned on this recent binge, you should probably get to purchasing.

TallGuyCM
06-11-2010, 06:22 PM
Watched Righteous Kill this afternoon. Meh.

corbo
06-11-2010, 06:44 PM
Thanks for the heads up School. I was hoping for Blu-Ray releases of these, but i'm guessing that won't be for a loooong while. shame.


The Exterminating Angel is one of my favorite Bunuel films as well. And yeah, it has meaning.

i get what he was trying to say about the wealthy by showing how they reacted by being put in that situation. i just don't get the metaphor of not being able to leave the room. the same thing again at the end with the religious people.

Down Rodeo
06-11-2010, 06:53 PM
Shit, well good thing I already have Phantom of Liberty and That Obscure Object of Desire. I guess I need to buy Discreet Charm while I can.

HowToDisappear
06-11-2010, 10:28 PM
I've had The Machinist on my instant queue forever and finally got around to watching it. I recall reading how Bale lost weight for the part, but my god, after actually seeing it, what kind of crazy person does that to himself for a film role? Holy shit, I surprised he didn't drop dead. He was great, though.

paulb
06-11-2010, 11:03 PM
ended up renting Goodfellas

Down Rodeo
06-11-2010, 11:35 PM
^ Excellent choice....on a related note, I watched Gomorrah on Netflix Instant tonight. Very good, gritty film about organized crime in Naples, Italy. I know it's an overused device to depict "realistic" violence in crime films these days, but the violence in this film was truly frightening because it felt like it was actually happening.

roberto73
06-12-2010, 03:37 AM
I've had The Machinist on my instant queue forever and finally got around to watching it. I recall reading how Bale lost weight for the part, but my god, after actually seeing it, what kind of crazy person does that to himself for a film role? Holy shit, I surprised he didn't drop dead. He was great, though.

The even crazier thing is he apparently had to bulk up right up away for Batman Begins. If memory serves, he gained something like 100 pounds in six months, and of course, given the role, it wasn't just six months of eating pizza and donuts. My guess is it's tough to build muscle when you've already wasted most of the existing muscle away.

chairmenmeow47
06-12-2010, 08:22 AM
HTD, i wondered the same thing about tom hanks in castaway. nuts.

started watching I.O.U.S.A. i think it's called last night. financial documentaries make my friday night!!!!

HowToDisappear
06-12-2010, 09:08 AM
Oh no. This was worse. He looked like a holocaust survivor. I was horrified. Yet, he somehow still remained handsome. That's nuts.

TallGuyCM
06-12-2010, 11:16 PM
Just got home from the marathon that was Matthew Barney's Cremaster Cycle this afternoon and evening.

It was a hell of a lot to absorb, but surprisingly wasn't that exhausting to do the whole thing in one day. The standout of the 5 was definitely Cremaster 3, which was really excellent.

I went out of my way not to read up on it too much ahead of time, so that I wouldn't have other opinions telling me how to watch/interpret the films. And now that I have a bit, it's obvious that there was a ton of shit going on that I didn't necessary catch onto.

It's definitely something I'd like to do again in a few years, I'm really a novice when it comes to experience with film. Especially compared to a lot of you on here, and I think I'd get a lot more out of it sometime in the not so distant future.

They also added another project of Barney's, De Lama Lamina, to the end of Parts 4&5. I figured I might as well stay and watch it, and that turned out to be a poor choice. It wasn't very good at all.

lunatic core
06-12-2010, 11:43 PM
I've had The Machinist on my instant queue forever and finally got around to watching it. I recall reading how Bale lost weight for the part, but my god, after actually seeing it, what kind of crazy person does that to himself for a film role? Holy shit, I surprised he didn't drop dead. He was great, though.

50 cent in new movie
http://i45.tinypic.com/14lk0mq.jpg

sbessiso
06-13-2010, 03:21 AM
he looks like a local South Beach crackhead

Sushov23
06-13-2010, 06:49 AM
I'm assuming most of you have seen the documentary Kill Your Idols, and I wanted to ask what did you all think of it?

wmgaretjax
06-13-2010, 07:49 AM
They also added another project of Barney's, De Lama Lamina, to the end of Parts 4&5. I figured I might as well stay and watch it, and that turned out to be a poor choice. It wasn't very good at all.

Was this the long version of the Destricted film with the dude masturbating with the giant machinery? I liked parts of the short version, but it already felt a little lengthy... So unless stuff was added, I can't imagine it being worth your time given how exhausted you'd be.

schoolofruckus
06-13-2010, 11:21 AM
Chris, I applaud your commitment to seeing the whole cycle at once. I was on the fence earlier this week, and then I forgot until I got your text yesterday. But your reviews have proven even further that I need to try to catch at least some of these films over the next five days.

TallGuyCM
06-13-2010, 07:16 PM
Was this the long version of the Destricted film with the dude masturbating with the giant machinery?

That's the one. Lots and lots of unnecessary black penis.

TallGuyCM
06-13-2010, 07:21 PM
Chris, I applaud your commitment to seeing the whole cycle at once. I was on the fence earlier this week, and then I forgot until I got your text yesterday. But your reviews have proven even further that I need to try to catch at least some of these films over the next five days.

Thanks, Gabe. I had to get up at 6 this morning for work, and was tempted yesterday to just skip out after Part 3 and catch 4&5 later this week. But I was already deep into the mindset of the whole thing, and am extremely glad that I stuck around.

Here's how I'd rank each film, off the top of my head:

3, 2, 5, 1, 4.

And for those who have never seen any of the films, it's really hard to compare it to other works/describe what it's like. But if I had to, I guess I could say that in my experience only David Lynch has been capable of thinking up the kind of twisted yet captivating and very surreal visuals that frequented Matthew Barney's Cremaster Cycle.

But even that's not a good comparison.

daxton
06-13-2010, 07:58 PM
Death Proof is the only thing from Tarantino that I don't care to watch again. The second half of it wasn't too bad, but it was a little too silly for me. I love Jackie Brown, but probably not as much as the rest. Kill Bill is also my favorite Tarantino to re-watch, but I think Inglourious Basterds might be his best work (in my opinion). I was blown away by it.

I liked it so much better than its counterpart, Planet Terror, but that was just Rodriquez, yeah?


Inglorious Basterds hit me like a baseball bat to the skull.

Shit, I keep forgetting to watch this. Putting it in queue now.


watched a lot of Luis Bu˝uel Films last week
"that obscure object of desire", "The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie", "the exterminating angel", "simon of the desert", "belle du jour". all awesome films!

my favorite one out of that bunch was the exterminating angel -
and odd, dark, and funny film about a group of wealthy individuals who
for some inexplicable reason are not able to leave a room. i loved it for its weirdness (there's bears, sheep, a walking ghost hand, a lady that carries chicken feet in her purse, etc etc) i still don't know what message he was trying to get across, does it even have one? i won't bother trying to get meaning out of it. i really enjoyed it though as i did the other films i mentioned.
will watch some more Luis Bu˝uel this weekend!

I studied Bu˝uel in college, but I haven't seen all the ones you mentioned. Viridiana was enjoyable, which you did not mention. If you haven't seen Un Chien Andalou yet, you should. His first, I believe, and DalÝ collaborated on it. I'm into Spanish film. I had to write so many analytical essays on them back in the day. Isabel Coixet is pretty amazing, I think. The Secret Life Of Words and My Life Without Me are in English, but she's a Spanish director. Check em out.

SoulDischarge
06-13-2010, 09:18 PM
Lots and lots of unnecessary black penis.

Unheard of!

lunatic core
06-13-2010, 11:03 PM
Death Proof is the only thing from Tarantino that I don't care to watch again. The second half of it wasn't too bad, but it was a little too silly for me. I love Jackie Brown, but probably not as much as the rest. Kill Bill is also my favorite Tarantino to re-watch, but I think Inglourious Basterds might be his best work (in my opinion). I was blown away by it.

I love Death Proof, but alot of my love comes from its stellar soundtrack that quickly became my favorite. Tarantino always has great music in his movies, but Death Proof is the only one where I love every single moment of the soundtrack, and some of the songs just melt me.
Kill Bill Vol 1 is still my fav movie of his though.

schoolofruckus
06-14-2010, 07:49 AM
Attention everyone:

Enter the Void will be released in theaters and OnDemand on September 17, 2010.

http://media.ifcfilms.com/images/films/film-detail-topper-image/enter-the-void_970x390.jpg (http://www.ifcfilms.com/films/enter-the-void)

amyzzz
06-14-2010, 09:13 AM
I'll be sure to put that date on my phone. Thanks, Gabe.

bleep
06-14-2010, 09:50 AM
The A Team was absurd, but also very fun. would only recommend if you, like me, watched reruns of the show as a kid. except for Hannibal's accent, i was more than pleased with the cast. Murdock was especially good.

AlecEiffel
06-14-2010, 02:00 PM
I'm assuming most of you have seen the documentary Kill Your Idols, and I wanted to ask what did you all think of it?

I think it's pretty bad. It's too light to really accomplish anything and the bands they chose to represent today's no wave is kind of head scratching. None of them are appropriate. I have to assume that they were just easy for the film makers to get at.

corbo
06-14-2010, 09:43 PM
Godard's 'Breathless' will be playing at the Sunset 5 this Friday it seems.

http://www.laemmle.com/viewmovie.php?mid=5746


Also, thanks Daxton. i'll check those out.

wmgaretjax
06-14-2010, 09:50 PM
many of the artists they chose to represent the avant of today in Kill Your Idols also failed miserably in their attempts or ended up moving towards much more traditional rock. Black Dice are the only band that really represents to me the modern day equivalent of no wave.

schoolofruckus
06-15-2010, 03:24 PM
A movie that I think looks awful: http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/neverletmego/

A movie that I think looks good:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/focus_features/somewhere/

schoolofruckus
06-15-2010, 03:40 PM
And this one looks like a better version of Hurt Locker:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/sony/lebanon/

roberto73
06-15-2010, 03:47 PM
A movie that I think looks awful: http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/neverletmego/


I'm going to continue to hold out hope for this one because the book on which it's based is just really fucking good. But yeah: if the trailer is anything to go by, I'm going to be monumentally disappointed.

MissingPerson
06-15-2010, 05:56 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/We_Live_in_Public_poster.jpg

Internet pioneer does a couple of really interesting online art/entertainment projects that were way ahead of their time, about surveillance and how much of ourselves we let out into the world, then turns the camera on himself in a kind of proto-Big Brother and goes a bit nuts under the pressure of it. The projects he ran were insane, and I've never heard of them before. He lives in Ethiopa now, apparently, as far away from the online world as he could get. Remarkable stuff.

schoolofruckus
06-15-2010, 08:34 PM
Thanks, Gabe. I had to get up at 6 this morning for work, and was tempted yesterday to just skip out after Part 3 and catch 4&5 later this week. But I was already deep into the mindset of the whole thing, and am extremely glad that I stuck around.

Here's how I'd rank each film, off the top of my head:

3, 2, 5, 1, 4.

And for those who have never seen any of the films, it's really hard to compare it to other works/describe what it's like. But if I had to, I guess I could say that in my experience only David Lynch has been capable of thinking up the kind of twisted yet captivating and very surreal visuals that frequented Matthew Barney's Cremaster Cycle.

But even that's not a good comparison.

I went to check out Cremaster 3, but I had a completely different experience from you. After about 45 minutes of watching vintage cars gang rape another car containing a gaunt dirt woman, I decided it wasn't for me. I'm sure a lot of it is that I'm not in the proper mindset tonight to watch something like this, but I also don't see myself making any real effort to watch this again in the future.

lunatic core
06-15-2010, 09:13 PM
Last night I watched -
Book Of Eli - Liked it, was kinda suprised by the "faith" undertones. Mila Kunis seemed horribly out of place. Wasn't so much her acting, as her looks were way too "pretty" for a post apocalyptic cesspool were nobody uses shampoo. I swear you can see her perfectly highlighted hair way too well in certain scenes in HD. Not something I normally notice.

Youth in Revolt - Loved it. I am an Unapologetic Michael Cera fan though. This role was basically written for him.

Unthinkable - Was suprisingly good. The entire movie is basically about the "Torture to save lives" debate.

TallGuyCM
06-15-2010, 09:45 PM
I went to check out Cremaster 3, but I had a completely different experience from you. After about 45 minutes of watching vintage cars gang rape another car containing a gaunt dirt woman, I decided it wasn't for me. I'm sure a lot of it is that I'm not in the proper mindset tonight to watch something like this, but I also don't see myself making any real effort to watch this again in the future.

Really? So you left after 45 minutes? Well it's definitely bizarre, but that's what I knew I was in for before going. And watching 3 right after 1&2 definitely helped, as far as mindset goes.

And I just looked at the wiki page for Somewhere. And this is what I read and how I reacted:

Directed by Sofia Coppola. Cool.
Starring:
Stephen Dorff. Ok.
Elle Fanning. Ok.
Benicio Del Toro. Very nice.
Michelle Monaghan. Will do.

and then...

Chris Pontius. wtf? LOL.

wmgaretjax
06-15-2010, 10:01 PM
I went to check out Cremaster 3, but I had a completely different experience from you. After about 45 minutes of watching vintage cars gang rape another car containing a gaunt dirt woman, I decided it wasn't for me. I'm sure a lot of it is that I'm not in the proper mindset tonight to watch something like this, but I also don't see myself making any real effort to watch this again in the future.

bummer...

TallGuyCM
06-16-2010, 01:03 AM
Watched Moon tonight. Didn't know what to expect, and it was way different than the little I had read about it.

schoolofruckus
06-16-2010, 07:33 AM
I used to have a really stringent rule against walking out of films. But at some point, I realized it does the film more of a disservice for me to watch it with the mindset that I have to endure it - which always tends to heighten my resentment and distaste - than to simply leave and go do something else. The Cremaster film, in particular, is one that I felt would hugely suffer in this regard. It's the kind of work that you really need to approach with an open, accepting frame of mind; in that regard, I think my best chance to appreciate it would have been to jack myself up and do the 1-5 marathon like Chris did last weekend. But even then, my reality is that I rarely have an 8+ hour block to dedicate to watching a film, and I already have Satantango on my shelf - and I am absolutely certain that would be a better usage of my film-watching time.

By the way, I'm watching Satantango next weekend when Jennie goes out of town.

wmgaretjax
06-16-2010, 08:36 AM
report back. that film is a monster. it is absolutely devastating. you are going to be in need of some serious lazer tag and bumper cars once it is done.

schoolofruckus
06-16-2010, 08:40 AM
Ha ha ha ha ha. I can't wait.

schoolofruckus
06-16-2010, 08:43 AM
Also, The Thin Red Line is confirmed for Criterion Blu-Ray and DVD release on September 28th.

amyzzz
06-16-2010, 08:54 AM
We watched this cute Swedish lesbian coming-of-age movie called Show Me Love which is actually called Fucking Amal in Swedish -- Amal is the small, dull town in which they lived. We tried watching it as a sexytime movie until we realized one of the girls is only 14 -- yes the actress was actually 14 at the time too -- and there was no nudity anyway. Then we settled into enjoying it as a humorous take two teen girls falling in love. One is a nerdy, suicidal outcast and the other is an outgoing popular girl so bored with her current life she raids the medicine cabinet to find drugs to amuse herself (she doesn't find any). The acting is top-notch, and it's a fun, feel-good story.

Down Rodeo
06-16-2010, 08:58 AM
Isn't that a Lukas Moodysson film?

bmack86
06-16-2010, 09:00 AM
We tried watching it as a sexytime movie until we realized one of the girls is only 14

Great success.

Down Rodeo
06-16-2010, 09:17 AM
By the way, I'm watching Satantango next weekend when Jennie goes out of town.

I still haven't been able to muster up the strength to rent all 3 discs of this from Netflix. I'm interested to hear how it is too.

amyzzz
06-16-2010, 09:20 AM
Isn't that a Lukas Moodysson film?
Yes it is. I looked it up on imdb and the title translated from Swedish to English with the proper accents is Fucking ┼mňl.

Down Rodeo
06-16-2010, 09:21 AM
The only Moodysson film I've seen is Lilja 4-Ever, but I really liked it. Devastating as fuck but really good.

wmgaretjax
06-16-2010, 09:23 AM
Together and Container are the only other two I would recommend besides Fucking Amal. Both are radically different from Lilja...

Down Rodeo
06-16-2010, 09:25 AM
I'll check out Together...can't find Container on Netflix.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-16-2010, 09:32 AM
I liked Lilja 4-ever a lot and have had Fucking Amal in my queue for a while. I had no idea they were by the same director though, I got led to it after watching a French lesbian coming-of-age movie called Water Lilies that was very good. I'm putting Together in the queue now though.

amyzzz
06-16-2010, 09:35 AM
The only Moodysson film I've seen is Lilja 4-Ever, but I really liked it. Devastating as fuck but really good.
Holy shit, the synopsis for that one sounds harsh. I may have to watch that one.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-16-2010, 09:37 AM
Holy shit, the synopsis for that one sounds harsh. I may have to watch that one.

It is harsh, but it's not as bad I went in expecting it to be. The narrative is playful in creative ways that helps alleviate the really fucked up reality of the situation the poor girl is in. The lead is really good.

Be ready for a lot of hyperfast Russian EDM on the soundtrack though. That was a little weird.

wmgaretjax
06-16-2010, 09:39 AM
I'll check out Together...can't find Container on Netflix.

Container has distribution of some sort... because I have a burned copy somewhere. It's only an hour long and much more of an art film than anything else he has done.

amyzzz
06-16-2010, 09:40 AM
It is harsh, but it's not as bad I went in expecting it to be. The narrative is playful in creative ways that helps alleviate the really fucked up reality of the situation the poor girl is in. The lead is really good.

Be ready for a lot of hyperfast Russian EDM on the soundtrack though. That was a little weird.
Yes I can see that. The nerdy girl (Agnes) in Fucking Amal is quite seriously suicidal over her love for Elin, but somehow the story does not get too bogged down in her pain and effectively uses humor to diffuse that.

Down Rodeo
06-16-2010, 12:35 PM
Container has distribution of some sort... because I have a burned copy somewhere. It's only an hour long and much more of an art film than anything else he has done.

Maybe I'll have to borrow that from you sometime. Along with The Decalogue, of course =)

wmgaretjax
06-16-2010, 12:45 PM
hell yeah. as soon as i'm back in town, both those will go your way.

TallGuyCM
06-16-2010, 06:40 PM
Alright guys, I need some recommendations. I plan on watching something tonight. Am slightly considering Bergman's Scenes From a Marriage, but it's 163 minutes long and I'm not sure I feel up to that.

So what I'm basically looking for is a foreign film that's shorter than that, that's not Kurosawa/Bergman/Tarkovsky. Those are the only 3 directors I have experience with so far, and I'd like to get beyond that.

And yes, I have Netflix Instant.

buddy
06-16-2010, 06:45 PM
have you seen The 400 Blows or The Bicycle Thief, both are great, fairly short, and on netflix instant.

bmack86
06-16-2010, 06:48 PM
M by Fritz Lang. You'll be blown away that it was one of the earliest talking films, and I wager that after the first 15 minutes you'll forget that it is black and white and in German. It's an extraordinary film.

daxton
06-16-2010, 06:50 PM
I'm about to watch When In Rome with my mother. I'm sure it will be spectacular.

TallGuyCM
06-16-2010, 07:09 PM
have you seen The 400 Blows or The Bicycle Thief, both are great, fairly short, and on netflix instant.


M by Fritz Lang. You'll be blown away that it was one of the earliest talking films, and I wager that after the first 15 minutes you'll forget that it is black and white and in German. It's an extraordinary film.

Nice, I had all 3 of those in my Instant Queue already, thanks guys.

wmgaretjax
06-16-2010, 07:12 PM
Alright guys, I need some recommendations. I plan on watching something tonight. Am slightly considering Bergman's Scenes From a Marriage, but it's 163 minutes long and I'm not sure I feel up to that.

So what I'm basically looking for is a foreign film that's shorter than that, that's not Kurosawa/Bergman/Tarkovsky. Those are the only 3 directors I have experience with so far, and I'd like to get beyond that.

And yes, I have Netflix Instant.

You should watch the TV version of Scenes From a Marriage. It's longer, but worth it.

Sorry. I just did the opposite of what you asked.

bmack86
06-16-2010, 07:29 PM
Nice, I had all 3 of those in my Instant Queue already, thanks guys.

M is one of the greatest films man.

TallGuyCM
06-16-2010, 07:29 PM
Wow, so I just read the wiki page for the Cremaster Cycle. And I had no idea that the majority of that stuff was going on. I thought I followed a good deal of it fairly well at the time, and obviously picked up on the blatant recurring theme of the male reproductive organs and what not.

But how on earth is someone supposed to watch these films for the first time, and know and recognize all of the symbolism that was going on? At best it seems like something where you research it afterwards, fill in the blanks, and get more out of it during later viewings.

higgybaby23
06-16-2010, 09:04 PM
M is one of the greatest films man.

Totally agree. It's so sinister and intense. Peter Lorre is perfection and I can never hear Grieg's In The Hall Of The Mountain King without thinking of this film.

Just finished Gentlemen Broncos by Jared Hess. I feel Hess' work is hit or miss, but this film definitely delivers. My wife was laughing her ass off. I love how Hess fills his films with ugly people. Great performances all around. There were even layers of self reference and a meta plotline. Best film I've seen since The Fantastic Mr. Fox(which I watched a couple weeks ago) and funniest film in recent memory.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-16-2010, 09:55 PM
Just finished Gentlemen Broncos by Jared Hess. I feel Hess' work is hit or miss, but this film definitely delivers. My wife was laughing her ass off. I love how Hess fills his films with ugly people. Great performances all around. There were even layers of self reference and a meta plotline. Best film I've seen since The Fantastic Mr. Fox(which I watched a couple weeks ago) and funniest film in recent memory.

I am so happy to hear someone say this, because I have heard a lot of people say they hated it, and I thought it was absolutely wonderful. I also love their ability to find the weirdest looking people imaginanable, and I thought it was fucking funny as well.

Also, I JUST finished Crazy Heart and I really loved it. It's not what i expected, and they certainly could have pushed everything a lot further, but I really just liked Bridges' character so damn much. The ending is definitely too qujick and too clean, but it didn't bother me too much. The first hour of the movie was pretty much perfection to me. I loved the music a lot too.

higgybaby23
06-16-2010, 09:58 PM
So what I'm basically looking for is a foreign film that's shorter than that, that's not Kurosawa/Bergman/Tarkovsky. Those are the only 3 directors I have experience with so far, and I'd like to get beyond that.



I recommend any film by Wong Kar-Wai. Ashes Of Time, Fallen Angels, Happy Together, Chung King Express, 2046...all fine films.

lunatic core
06-16-2010, 10:23 PM
So what I'm basically looking for is a foreign film that's shorter than that, that's not Kurosawa/Bergman/Tarkovsky. Those are the only 3 directors I have experience with so far, and I'd like to get beyond that.

And yes, I have Netflix Instant.

How about some
Takahashi Miike - Ichi the Killer, Audition,
Chan-wook Park - Sympathy for Mr. Vengance, Lady Vengance, Oldboy, Thirst

also Let the Right One In

TallGuyCM
06-16-2010, 10:57 PM
Many thanks, guys. I had a few of those lined up already, but now have a lot more to look forward to. :)

And M was really, really good. Thanks, b. I'm surprised you don't hear Lorre's speech in the final minutes of the film mentioned alongside some of the finer scenes in the history of cinema. Two thumbs up.

clumsy342
06-17-2010, 07:49 AM
Soda Popinski!

schoolofruckus
06-17-2010, 07:59 AM
Chris, at some point you should give Michelangelo Antonioni a shot. I would recommend starting with one of his English films Blow-Up (which is the first one I saw) or The Passenger (which is the best Jack Nicholson movie ever made) to see if you like it. After those, you can dive into his other peak-period works (L'Avventura, L' Eclisse, La Notte, Zabriskie Point, and finally, next week's years-overdue Criterion release Red Desert).

Even though he's American, you also need to give John Cassavetes a look one of these days. His five-film set on Criterion - Shadows, Faces, A Woman Under the Influence, The Killing of a Chinese Bookie, and Opening Night - is fucking amazing, with Influence (which I rewatched again this past weekend) and Bookie being my two favorites. Husbands was released on DVD in the US about a year ago, and I love that one too - it's the funniest of his films.

For what it's worth, these are two of my top filmmakers who have ever lived (alongside Tarkovsky and Kubrick).

schoolofruckus
06-17-2010, 08:09 AM
How about some
Takahashi Miike - Ichi the Killer, Audition,
Chan-wook Park - Sympathy for Mr. Vengance, Lady Vengance, Oldboy, Thirst

also Let the Right One In

The bolded ones are great recommendations. haven't seen Ichi the Killer, but I hear it's fucking bananas. I think Lady Vengeance is pretty but kind of shallow, and Thirst was a mess. Let the Right One In is a much better vampire film (although I still think that one was pretty overrated).

Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance and Oldboy are playing at the New Beverly tonight. I would highly recommend going. The latter, in particular - it was ranked #2 on my best of the decade list.

Also, lunatic - have you seen J.S.A.? I'd put that alongside the two Park films I love.

chairmenmeow47
06-17-2010, 08:48 AM
so in the past week maybe, i've watched: frontline: card games, I.O.U.S.A., in debt we trust, maxed out (again), entron: the smartest guys in the room (again) and capitalism: a love story. holy shit i am scared shitless for this country. maxed out & in debt we trust were especially chilling since they were made before the crash and highlighted a lot of the issues we are now going through today. i hope our next president makes debt a national issue, but i doubt they will. tyler durden may have been onto something...

i also started the business of being born last night and really enjoyed the first hour that i got through. it was kinda weird to see rikki lake giving birth in a bathtub though. but it sheds a whole new light on midwifery for me. giving birth has always seemed so scary to me; especially the c-section. it seems a whole lot nicer to give birth at home with a woman helping you along instead of being rushed through a hospital because they want you out as quickly as possible. i wonder what the cost difference is?

liquidsnake28
06-17-2010, 08:56 AM
Has Lang done anything else that measures up to M? I've only seen that, Metropolis and Scarlet Street. They're all three great but M is easily the best.

bmack86
06-17-2010, 08:58 AM
Not that I've seen. I've seen those three and The Testament of Dr. Mabuse, and they're all good but M is far superior.

TallGuyCM
06-17-2010, 09:02 AM
Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance and Oldboy are playing at the New Beverly tonight. I would highly recommend going.

I would definitely consider it if game 7 wasn't tonight.

And thanks a lot for the recs!

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 09:03 AM
I really need to see Mr. Vengeance. I LOVE Old Boy and I enjoyed Lady Vengeance quite a bit as well.

Another Korean movie I really, really loved was The Host, which was a great take on monster movies.

I have not seen Audition yet, but I have seen a lot of Takashi Miike films and he is so off and on, mostly in the off category, that I was skeptical. So many people have said it's great though.

TallGuyCM
06-17-2010, 09:18 AM
Soda Popinski!

Fuck. I totally forgot you had that avatar. I thought I was being original. :nono

I.F.A.
06-17-2010, 10:03 AM
I really need to see Mr. Vengeance. I LOVE Old Boy and I enjoyed Lady Vengeance quite a bit as well.

Another Korean movie I really, really loved was The Host, which was a great take on monster movies.

I have not seen Audition yet, but I have seen a lot of Takashi Miike films and he is so off and on, mostly in the off category, that I was skeptical. So many people have said it's great though.

Sympathy For Lady Vengeance is on my list of perfect movies. It's also one of the most visually beautiful films I've seen. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance is also beautiful, but the pacing is slower and more methodical (I think it's the most depressing of the trio). It's interesting watching the three back to back and seeing Chan-Wook's evolution as a director (and the three different perspectives he takes on the theme).

The only Miike movie I've made it all the way through was City of Lost Souls, which I liked even if it was a bit too, erm, scatalogical. I've not been able to stomach any thing else of his - couldn't even make it through the trailer for Ichi the Killer.

I recently saw Cure, by Kiyoshi Kurosawa, which was awesome. I've been looking forward to checking out more of his movies.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 10:07 AM
Miike's whole catalog are not all gore fests, and those actually make up a small percentage. He likes gangster and crime movies a lot, and is a genere-hopper. he's so fucking inconsistent though, even within a film. It seems like he just gives up with ending half the time.

he is damn prolific though.

I.F.A.
06-17-2010, 10:14 AM
^ I'll have to consider checking out some of his other work.

It's not even so much that the gore bothers me... I actually dig a lot of the Japanese gore/horror movies - Suicide Club is great, and I loved Battle Royale (though I've still not seen the sequel) - though, I have a harder and harder time watching any violence on screen as I've gotten older. It's mostly that Miike's gore (or, what I've seen of it anyway) is verging on snuff. Same reason I won't watch modern horror movies, like pretty much anything that came after Saw. I can't handle it.

amyzzz
06-17-2010, 10:14 AM
I really need to see Mr. Vengeance. I LOVE Old Boy and I enjoyed Lady Vengeance quite a bit as well.

Another Korean movie I really, really loved was The Host, which was a great take on monster movies.

I have not seen Audition yet, but I have seen a lot of Takashi Miike films and he is so off and on, mostly in the off category, that I was skeptical. So many people have said it's great though.
I agree with everything you have said here. I loved the heck out of The Host as well. I have not checked out Lady Vengeance yet but it's on my queue.

Down Rodeo
06-17-2010, 10:16 AM
Chris, at some point you should give Michelangelo Antonioni a shot. I would recommend starting with one of his English films Blow-Up (which is the first one I saw) or The Passenger (which is the best Jack Nicholson movie ever made) to see if you like it. After those, you can dive into his other peak-period works (L'Avventura, L' Eclisse, La Notte, Zabriskie Point, and finally, next week's years-overdue Criterion release Red Desert).


I just watched Zabriskie Point last night. Parts of it were staggeringly beautiful, others were really bland. Overall, it was a good film and an interesting artifact of its era.

I've also been meaning to revisit L'Avventura so I can watch the whole "trilogy". I don't think I knew enough about film yet when I saw it the first time.

wmgaretjax
06-17-2010, 10:19 AM
Audition and his segment in Three Extremes are Miike's best works...

I would also recommend Kieslowski (just start with the three colors trilogy), Ozu (Late Autumn, Tokyo Story), Svankmejer (Conspirators of Pleasure, Little Otik), and Tarr (Werckmeister Harmonies, Damnation).

I.F.A.
06-17-2010, 10:23 AM
Oh, I forgot that he had a segment in Three Extremes, which I have seen. Park Chan-Wook (dir. of Oldboy) also has a segment.

I'd also suggest Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring, and Why Did Bodhidharma Go to the East, for any one who digs really slowly paced existentially Buddhist foreign fare. (Seriously though, they're both heartbreakingly beautiful.)

Down Rodeo
06-17-2010, 10:24 AM
I'm shocked Fellini hasn't been mentioned yet. Come on guys, 8 1/2, La Dolce Vita, La Strada, Nights of Cabiria, Juliet of the Spirits, Amarcord...these are all necessary. I'd recommend Satyricon if you're feeling brave.

GoEastYoungMan
06-17-2010, 10:25 AM
I loved Battle Royale (though I've still not seen the sequel)

No no no no no. Avoid the sequel. Unless you are in the mood for a letdown of fantastic proportions.

wmgaretjax
06-17-2010, 10:29 AM
I'd also suggest Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring

3-Iron is another incredible Kim Ki-Duk film.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 10:30 AM
I would also recommend Kieslowski (just start with the three colors trilogy), Ozu (Late Autumn, Tokyo Story), Svankmejer (Conspirators of Pleasure, Little Otik), and Tarr (Werckmeister Harmonies, Damnation).

Pretty much all of this is currently in my Netflix queue. I have a watched a whole bunch of Svankmejer's shorts, but haven't tried a full length feature from him yet.

wmgaretjax
06-17-2010, 10:31 AM
I have a watched a whole bunch of Svankmejer's shorts, but haven't tried a full length feature from him yet.

You won't regret it. Lunacy and Faust are fantastic as well, didn't mention it because I wouldn't start with it.

oh, and i believe every Godard film is worth watching.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 10:34 AM
You won't regret it. Lunacy and Faust are fantastic as well, didn't mention it because I wouldn't start with it.

Great, I look forward to it. How is his Alice?

Also, i am surprised Godard hasn't been mentioned here yet. I honestly am very new to him, but have a large amount of his films on my queue to watch. I have only seen Breathless so far, but I loved it. I got a lot of Godard recommendations from this very thread quite a while a ago.

amyzzz
06-17-2010, 10:38 AM
Alice is great: creepy, stop-motion and enough added new elements to the Alice story that it keeps you interested. And my kids liked it too.
I liked the dresser drawer portal for one.

TallGuyCM
06-17-2010, 10:39 AM
Wow. Again, great recommendations. I already had a pretty intimidating Netflix queue, but now it's just bordering on insurmountable. :)

It amazes me that so many of you have seen so many films already in your short lifetimes, what with how a lot of you seem to be in your mid to late 20s or younger. I watch more films than anyone I know, but have nowhere near the level of experience that a lot of you have.

Oh, and another thought from watching Moon the other night. I thought Kevin Spacey's voice as GERTY was distracting, and a bad choice. Spacey has one of the most recognizable voices on the planet, and I found my mind wandering elsewhere when GERTY talked every now and then, and had to rewind a good bit. Why not pick some no-name actor (who would undoubtedly cost much less) for the role?

I.F.A.
06-17-2010, 10:41 AM
No no no no no. Avoid the sequel. Unless you are in the mood for a letdown of fantastic proportions.

Yeah, that's pretty much why I've avoided it.


3-Iron is another incredible Kim Ki-Duk film.

I will have to check it out, thanks!


Great, I look forward to it. How is his Alice?


Alice is amazing - if you've seen Coraline you'll definitely recognize it as a huge influence in the visual style.

Also, I think Cocteau deserves a nod now... The Orpheus Trilogy and his Beauty and the Beast are like the original source materials for nearly all film in the fantasy genre.

wmgaretjax
06-17-2010, 10:44 AM
imo, Alice is Svankmejer's least interesting film, not to say that it's bad...

I.F.A.
06-17-2010, 10:46 AM
imo, Alice is Svankmejer's least interesting film, not to say that it's bad...

I've only seen it and Little Otik. Which of his would you recommend most?

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 10:48 AM
Wow. Again, great recommendations. I already had a pretty intimidating Netflix queue, but now it's just bordering on insurmountable. :)

Me too. My queue is consistnetly around 450 discs because I am constantly adding new items.


It amazes me that so many of you have seen so many films already in your short lifetimes, what with how a lot of you seem to be in your mid to late 20s or younger. I watch more films than anyone I know, but have nowhere near the level of experience that a lot of you have.

Pure, unadulterated obsession. I was a big movie geek in high school, but being in the media department in college i took a LOT of film history, criticism, and screenwriting classes which led me to not only watch a ton of films in school but also opened my eyes up to lots and lots of older films that i never would have considered or put much thought into.



Oh, and another thought from watching Moon the other night. I thought Kevin Spacey's voice as GERTY was distracting, and a bad choice. Spacey has one of the most recognizable voices on the planet, and I found my mind wandering elsewhere when GERTY talked every now and then, and had to rewind a good bit. Why not pick some no-name actor (who would undoubtedly cost much less) for the role?

I actually really liked Spacey in the role. There's somehting about his voice quality and the read that really humanized the robot for me and allowed me to connect with it on a deeper level.

wmgaretjax
06-17-2010, 10:53 AM
I've only seen it and Little Otik. Which of his would you recommend most?

Conspirators of Pleasure. No hesitation there. Definitely his best work.

In a similar vein, I love the Quay Brothers and would recommend Piano Tuner of Earthquakes and Institute Benjamenta.

AlecEiffel
06-17-2010, 12:10 PM
Husbands was released on DVD in the US about a year ago, and I love that one too - it's the funniest of his films.


Husbands is hilarious, but I think Minnie & Moscowitz is even funnier if only for the bit parts by Tim Carey and Val Avery. Both of them are on Netflix instant right now, by the way.

Also, as far as Godard goes Breathless, pierrot le fou and A Woman is a Woman are on instant right now, and all are pretty great.

schoolofruckus
06-17-2010, 12:56 PM
Sympathy For Lady Vengeance is on my list of perfect movies. It's also one of the most visually beautiful films I've seen. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance is also beautiful, but the pacing is slower and more methodical (I think it's the most depressing of the trio). It's interesting watching the three back to back and seeing Chan-Wook's evolution as a director (and the three different perspectives he takes on the theme).

The only Miike movie I've made it all the way through was City of Lost Souls, which I liked even if it was a bit too, erm, scatalogical. I've not been able to stomach any thing else of his - couldn't even make it through the trailer for Ichi the Killer.

I recently saw Cure, by Kiyoshi Kurosawa, which was awesome. I've been looking forward to checking out more of his movies.

I would like to hear more of your thoughts about Lady Vengeance. The photography is gorgeous, but it's so simplistic on a moral level. One of the best things about Mr. Vengeance and Oldboy is that you have characters squaring off against one another, but it's nearly impossible to determine that one is "right" and the other "wrong". The story is presented so objectively that you can see why each person wants vengeance, which ultimately underscores its destructiveness. Whereas in Lady Vengeance, it's cut-and-dried - this guy is evil, let's get him. It's not much more complex than that.

schoolofruckus
06-17-2010, 01:08 PM
Husbands is hilarious, but I think Minnie & Moscowitz is even funnier if only for the bit parts by Tim Carey and Val Avery. Both of them are on Netflix instant right now, by the way.

Also, as far as Godard goes Breathless, pierrot le fou and A Woman is a Woman are on instant right now, and all are pretty great.

Yeah, Minnie and Moskowitz is pretty goddamn funny; it's also more light-hearted in general than Husbands, which helps the funny. I'm really glad Netflix has it - I only saw it at the New Beverly a year ago, the night I met Seymour Cassel.

Now if Criterion could just pick up Love Streams...

schoolofruckus
06-17-2010, 01:10 PM
It amazes me that so many of you have seen so many films already in your short lifetimes, what with how a lot of you seem to be in your mid to late 20s or younger. I watch more films than anyone I know, but have nowhere near the level of experience that a lot of you have.

There's always someone who has seen more movies than you. I would say the same thing regarding the volume that I watch in relation to the other people I know, but then I look at Jared, who's four years younger than me and has a never-ending list of quality recommendations.

As for the Netflix queue....I find it's best to keep my queue to 20 films or less and put the rest on a spreadsheet somewhere. It makes it feel a lot less daunting.

I.F.A.
06-17-2010, 01:41 PM
I would like to hear more of your thoughts about Lady Vengeance. The photography is gorgeous, but it's so simplistic on a moral level. One of the best things about Mr. Vengeance and Oldboy is that you have characters squaring off against one another, but it's nearly impossible to determine that one is "right" and the other "wrong". The story is presented so objectively that you can see why each person wants vengeance, which ultimately underscores its destructiveness. Whereas in Lady Vengeance, it's cut-and-dried - this guy is evil, let's get him. It's not much more complex than that.

I'll be happy to write a response to this later, when I've got some time and am not supposed to be working. ;) (Be warned, I was a lit. major...)

SoulDischarge
06-17-2010, 01:53 PM
I recently saw [I]Cure, by Kiyoshi Kurosawa, which was awesome. I've been looking forward to checking out more of his movies.

I watched this during my half-month of horror in my cult film thread and really enjoyed it. I wrote a review for it there if you care to dig it up.

While we're throwing out foreign directors: Seijen Suzuki. Some of the most bizarre psychosexual fever dreams in film form of the 60s.

I.F.A.
06-17-2010, 01:59 PM
I watched this during my half-month of horror in my cult film thread and really enjoyed it. I wrote a review for it there if you care to dig it up.

While we're throwing out foreign directors: Seijen Suzuki. Some of the most bizarre psychosexual fever dreams in film form of the 60s.

I would certainly like to read it.


If we're moving into the really bizarre... I nominate The Holy Mountain.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 02:20 PM
I loved Holy Mountain very much because it is so damn beautiful. i wasn't expecting such brilliant cinematography, so the extreme dedication to just being weird didn't throw me off at all. Unfortunately some other strangely narrated, highly symbolic works that that i have seen suffered greatly from poor visual quality for me. Examples being The Company of Wolves and Valerie and Her Week of Wonders.

I do really want to see El Topo and haven't gotten around to it yet.

schoolofruckus
06-17-2010, 02:22 PM
I'm the inverse. I've seen El Topo and loved it, but I have yet to get into The Holy Mountain.

M Sparks
06-17-2010, 02:32 PM
I need to get on Gentlemen Broncos. It only played a week here and I missed it.

Thanks to all for the foreign recommendations, I think I will load up my Netflix Instant and binge a bit this weekend. I've had The Host sitting on there for a while.

amyzzz
06-17-2010, 02:34 PM
I need to get on Gentlemen Broncos. It only played a week here and I missed it.

Thanks to all for the foreign recommendations, I think I will load up my Netflix Instant and binge a bit this weekend. I've had The Host sitting on there for a while.
Half the time while I was watching this movie, I didn't know if I should laugh, cry, or scream. It's an odd one, but a pretty fun monster movie.

bmack86
06-17-2010, 02:35 PM
I loved El Topo as well, have yet to watch Holy Mountain because almost everyone I watched El Topo with was so disturbed with it that they don't want to take the plunge, and I've not yet jumped in on my own

roberto73
06-17-2010, 02:46 PM
I need to get on Gentlemen Broncos. It only played a week here and I missed it.

Resist the urge. I've got pretty broad taste in movies, and I enjoy many flicks that are regularly shunned around these parts, but I was furious at that fucking movie within its first 15 minutes. I even like the cast, but I wanted to see everyone who had a hand in making that atrocity sent careening over the edge of a cliff in a burning car.

schoolofruckus
06-17-2010, 02:48 PM
Uh, it's from the guy that made Napoleon Dynamite. I'm pretty sure that tells you all you need to know.

Note: This is directed toward everyone, not just Roberto.

roberto73
06-17-2010, 02:50 PM
Uh, it's from the guy that made Napoleon Dynamite. I'm pretty sure that tells you all you need to know.

I know, I know, and I really should've known better. I was hoping the cast could carry it. Instead, all I wanted to do was stab it in the eye with a fork.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 03:02 PM
Well, two of us were just talking about how we really enjoyed Gentlemen Broncos, sop different strokes. I liked Napolean Dynamite a lot too, and no amount of vitriol form you guys can change that opinion.

schoolofruckus
06-17-2010, 03:10 PM
Sorry, man. For me, it's just one of the few films that truly provoked fury within me every single time someone would talk about liking it. This went on for years.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 03:14 PM
Sorry, man. For me, it's just one of the few films that truly provoked fury within me every single time someone would talk about liking it. This went on for years.

I have read your rants on the subject several times, which is why i said that about vitriol. I respect your hatred for it.

i agree with most of the trendy, popular movies that you despise though. I have had many head-shaking, palm-facing conversations with people about Juno, Little Miss Sunshine, and similar films, so i feel your pain.

wmgaretjax
06-17-2010, 03:18 PM
Are you religious? The only people I've ever met who've liked Napoleon Dynamite were super religious.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 03:20 PM
Are you religious? The only people I've ever met who've liked Napoleon Dynamite were super religious.

I am an atheist. The connection between that movie and religion is mind-bobbling to me (yes, i know the filmmakers are Mormon, but the film doesn't promote that fact)

MissingPerson
06-17-2010, 03:25 PM
I also rather enjoyed Napoleon Dynamite. It suffered from overhype, and the way it was promoted, but I liked it a bunch.

wmgaretjax
06-17-2010, 06:01 PM
I am an atheist. The connection between that movie and religion is mind-bobbling to me (yes, i know the filmmakers are Mormon, but the film doesn't promote that fact)

I mean, I grew up in a radically southern baptist family... and this kind of humor is what they love... It's just bizarre. No knock on you. Everyone is allowed to like at least a couple shitty films.

PotVsKtl
06-17-2010, 07:01 PM
Napoleon Dynamite is funny. About four times. Then it's terrible.

PotVsKtl
06-17-2010, 07:03 PM
I can't imagine what Baptism (sic) might have to do with it. That gangly kid is drinking eggs. OK.

liquidsnake28
06-17-2010, 07:38 PM
Are you religious? The only people I've ever met who've liked Napoleon Dynamite were super religious.

That'd odd. I know plenty of non religious people who like that movie.

wmgaretjax
06-17-2010, 07:56 PM
I guess I just don't know many people who like that movie.

Odd...

bmack86
06-17-2010, 07:57 PM
It's a goofy movie, but I enjoy it for what it's worth.

liquidsnake28
06-17-2010, 07:58 PM
I don't like Napoleon Dynamite for the record.

lunatic core
06-17-2010, 08:09 PM
Ichi the Killer is amazingly rewatchable. There is many little details in the movie that are just so damn brilliant.

Hannahrain
06-17-2010, 08:36 PM
I'm watching The Phantom Tollbooth. I hope it's not too forgotten at this point to ever be released on DVD. Quality children's entertainment adapted from quality children's entertainment.

SoulDischarge
06-17-2010, 08:48 PM
I've been waiting for that to come to DVD for ages. One of my favorite "family" movies, even if it's a little heavy handed and really outdated.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 11:49 PM
Ichi the Killer is amazingly rewatchable. There is many little details in the movie that are just so damn brilliant.

For some odd reason I had avoided watching this movie for the longest time, thinking I'd be unable to stomach it. Then I realized I love both Hostel movies, and after watching Tokyo Gore Police last week I am almost craving more gore. I have so many fun , disgusting Japanese movies to watch now This includes Battle Royale, Audition, and Suicide Club, none of which I have seen yet and am really excited about, along with the really bad, schlocky ones we were discussing a couple pages back.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-17-2010, 11:51 PM
I mean, I grew up in a radically southern baptist family... and this kind of humor is what they love... It's just bizarre. No knock on you. Everyone is allowed to like at least a couple shitty films.

I grew up religious as well, Catholic and then converted to Evangelical Christian...but I still have a hard time connecting the lunacy in that movie to that.

But yeah, we're all allowed to like what we like. I like to think I have somewhat of a legitimate and educated opinion in film on this board to at least allow me that.

TallGuyCM
06-18-2010, 12:07 AM
THANK YOU. At the time, I felt like the only person on earth who didn't like Napoleon Dynamite.

But, further confirming Jared's point, I was mainly influenced by the praises (no pun intended) of the film by religious people, who made up the bulk of my peers at the time. I went through a very religious phase in high school (played guitar in the worship team even!), and went to Point Loma Nazarene, a very conservative Christian college.

lunatic core
06-18-2010, 12:17 AM
I think Napolean Dynamite just tapped into an awkwardly appealing aesthetic that alot of people related to. I enjoyed it. Theres a weird childhood nostalgia thing about.

tessalasset
06-18-2010, 01:07 AM
Has anyone seen Micmacs? I want to know what you thought. I saw it a couple days ago and it was entirely not my cup of tea. Cutesy little twee French comedy/action/drama movie from the director of Amelie.

sbessiso
06-18-2010, 01:34 AM
Napoleon Dynamite is religious?

lunatic core
06-18-2010, 03:29 AM
Watched Brothers and Ninja Assassin last night.
Both were better than I expected and neither were original in any way.
I was avoiding Brothers because the topic seemed pointless and miserable.
I was avoiding Ninja Assassin because the name was blatantly stupid.

roberto73
06-18-2010, 04:30 AM
Napoleon Dynamite is religious?

Only in the sense that you pray for it to be over soon.

Zing?

liquidsnake28
06-18-2010, 05:30 AM
I guess I have a lot of non religious friends (which is a very good thing) but almost none of them have good taste in movies (which is obviously a bad thing.)

higgybaby23
06-18-2010, 07:33 AM
I love how the topic of religion has crept into this thread. The funny thing is that it's directed at Napoleon Dynamite and not El Topo or The Holy Mountain, two of the most religiously charged movies ever made.

I highly recommend reading about the back story on Jodorowsky. He was basically blacklisted from making any more films and now writes comic books among other things. At one point he was tapped to direct Dune with HR Giger doing set/character design and Pink Floyd doing the score. Can you imagine what kind of dark fucked up film that would have been? I wish he would make one more film using todays technology.

His films were almost impossible to get just a few years ago. I ordered a bootleg DVD of The Holy Mountain off of ebay because it was stolen from my local video store at the time. I think it was dubbed from a Japanese release. They now offer a boxset of all his films.

schoolofruckus
06-18-2010, 08:09 AM
For some odd reason I had avoided watching this movie for the longest time, thinking I'd be unable to stomach it. Then I realized I love both Hostel movies, and after watching Tokyo Gore Police last week I am almost craving more gore. I have so many fun , disgusting Japanese movies to watch now This includes Battle Royale, Audition, and Suicide Club, none of which I have seen yet and am really excited about, along with the really bad, schlocky ones we were discussing a couple pages back.

My takes: Suicide Club is pretty empty. Battle Royale is fucking great. And Audition is a total blast.

higgybaby23
06-18-2010, 08:19 AM
For all those hating Napoleon Dynamite and/or Gentlemen Broncos, please give me some recommendations on comedies you like. I consider myself somewhat of a comedy snob. I despised popular comedies like Pineapple Express and Superbad which everyone I knew loved.

lunatic core
06-18-2010, 08:30 AM
For all those hating Napoleon Dynamite and/or Gentlemen Broncos, please give me some recommendations on comedies you like. I consider myself somewhat of a comedy snob. I despised popular comedies like Pineapple Express and Superbad which everyone I knew loved.
Having bad taste doesn't make you a snob.

higgybaby23
06-18-2010, 08:33 AM
Having bad taste doesn't make you a snob.

Less trolling, more recommendations.

lunatic core
06-18-2010, 08:36 AM
Less trolling, more recommendations.
You posted a list of movies they hate, and you hate. How is somebody supposed to generate recommendations from that.

Avoid Youth in Revolt?

higgybaby23
06-18-2010, 08:45 AM
Simple request. List a recent comedy that you liked. That is all.

schoolofruckus
06-18-2010, 08:57 AM
For all those hating Napoleon Dynamite and/or Gentlemen Broncos, please give me some recommendations on comedies you like. I consider myself somewhat of a comedy snob. I despised popular comedies like Pineapple Express and Superbad which everyone I knew loved.

Pretty broad request. I could throw out anything from A Serious Man to Step Brothers.

higgybaby23
06-18-2010, 09:02 AM
I loved A Serious Man. Definitely one of the funniest movies to come out recently. I have yet to see Step Brothers.

I realize the request is broad. Hopefully the recommendations will be broad as well.

bmack86
06-18-2010, 09:04 AM
Step Brothers is hilariously inane and endlessly quotable.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-18-2010, 09:06 AM
Pretty broad request. I could throw out anything from A Serious Man to Step Brothers.

Both of which I would recommend wholeheartedly as well, although they have nothing to do with each other.

Speaking of A Serious Man, and I think I mentioned this before, i finally got around to see The Man Who Wasn't There recently and was floored by how amazing it was, and by the fact that i somehow had avoided it all these years. Not only is it a quirky and dark piece of noir, it's also fucking hilarious.

I can't really think of other comedies I've seen recently...I haven't been interested in one in a while. I'm generally pleased Apatow & Co. films though.