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03-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Plenty of hardcore music scenes.
No, I'm not talking about this new trendy bullshit.
I mean original hardcore. I've been getting into it a lot lately.
The main bands I've taken a liking to is Sick of it All and Discharge.

Can someone offer me some more good original hardcore albums?

03-03-2008, 03:57 PM
Beastie Boys - Pollywog Stew EP

03-03-2008, 03:58 PM
I listened to sick of it all in the late 90s. Have no idea of any new groups.

03-03-2008, 04:02 PM
gorilla biscuits

first cbgb show in '86


full reunion show at cbgb's in '05


Cheddar's Cousin
03-03-2008, 05:10 PM
Die Kreuzen (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Vine/3258/diekreuzen.html)

03-03-2008, 05:20 PM
Beastie Boys - Pollywog Stew EP

That doesnt apply by any means.

Bad Brains
Black Flag
Minor Threat
Battalion of Saints
7 Seconds
Circle Jerks
Dead Kennedys
SS Decontrol
The Adolescents

03-03-2008, 05:23 PM
Straight Faced
Swing Kids
Teen Idles
Iron Cross
Bad Brains

Cheddar's Cousin
03-03-2008, 05:26 PM
Angry Samoans
Youth Brigade
UPright Citizens

03-03-2008, 05:26 PM
supre are rue took most of my recommendations so i'll throw in life of agony - river runs red the rest will disappoint

03-03-2008, 05:35 PM
Earth Crisis
Minor Threat
Youth Of Today
Black Flag
Kill Your Idols
Gorilla Biscuits
Agnostic Front

03-03-2008, 06:03 PM
Early Husker Du is some cool ass hardcore

03-03-2008, 06:04 PM
Same with early Minutemen

03-03-2008, 06:10 PM
Attitude Adjustment

03-03-2008, 06:15 PM
Apple Maggot Quarantine Area

03-03-2008, 06:18 PM
Clown Alley

03-04-2008, 06:48 PM
Anal Cunt.

03-04-2008, 06:50 PM
Thanks JustSteve. Gotta love the Unsane playing over the house speakers before the reunion show.

03-05-2008, 02:57 PM
Tragedy - Vengeance (d-beat/hardcore punk)

Circle Jerks - Group Sex (classic hardcore/punk album)

Career Suicide - Anthology (hardcore/punk/thrash with members of Fucked Up)

03-05-2008, 03:35 PM
The Nig Heist

03-05-2008, 03:42 PM
anymore D-BEAT albums someone can reccomend?

the only two bands I can name which are D-BEAT are Discharge and the Varukers.
Can someone offer me some good Varukers album?

03-05-2008, 04:22 PM
Local really good bay area hardcore bands:

Verbal Abuse

Oh and an original band (not from bay area) would be:
Millions of Dead Cops

03-05-2008, 04:55 PM
Suprefan & Blackswan pretty much covered everything... but I'll throw in Warzone for good measure. I remember this one time seeing Powerhouse & Triceratops at Berkeley Square and the whole night I was standing next to Tim Armstrong from Rancid, but I didn't notice this until I turned to leave. He's short.

03-05-2008, 05:26 PM
They are all short, except Henry Rollins.

03-05-2008, 07:47 PM
Circle Jerks' "Group Sex" is in my all time top 10 albums. It's what got me into punk rock. All 16 minutes of it. It's so f'ing good.

03-05-2008, 08:00 PM
Quasar- Aglio E Olio

03-06-2008, 12:43 AM
Is Propagandhi hardcore? I kind of doubt it. I think they're supposed to be progressive something. Propagandhi is awesome anyway.

03-06-2008, 01:00 AM
big boys
jerry's kids
and of course...

03-06-2008, 01:22 AM
Dang how did I forget Jerrys Kids, pretty mcuh all the Boston HxC bands ruled.

03-06-2008, 07:03 AM
Local really good bay area hardcore bands:

Verbal Abuse

Oh and an original band (not from bay area) would be:
Millions of Dead Cops

I absolutely love Verbal Abuse.

03-06-2008, 07:04 AM
can anyone reccomend me some albums by the Varukers?

I'm at 1000 Posts!!!
My goal was to reach this before Coachella and I most certainly did that!

03-06-2008, 07:47 AM
MadBall - Set It Off
Agnostic Front - Victim in Pain; Cause for Alarm
Warzone - Open Your Eyes
Murphy's Law - Murphy's Law/Back With a Bong Split

03-06-2008, 07:51 AM
can anyone reccomend me some albums by the Varukers?

I'm at 1000 Posts!!!
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You won't go wrong with their 19802005: Collection Of 25 Years CD

03-06-2008, 11:10 AM
25 to life

03-06-2008, 11:46 AM
D beat/crust:

Behind Enemy Lines
Caustic Christ
From Ashes Rise
His Hero Is Gone
Deathreat (not to be confused with Death Threat)
Severed Head of State

all these bands are fucking incredible, i highly suggest checking out behind enemy lines and aus-rotten. if you're in the mood for some thrash stuff, check out DS-13, Das Oath, and don't forget Dirty Rotten Imbeciles! ... that's weird all three of those bands start with a D. anyways yeah, punk is great.

03-06-2008, 07:04 PM
Good recommendations peoples. Anyway this prompted me to copy this bulletin from my myspace. MIA was one of them hardcore bands when i was a youngster. After the story of Michael's death and friends' reflections, i added my personal MIA story:

Michael Conley mastered OC punk dead 1959-2008
Body: story from the daily pilot

As the frontman for the Orange County hardcore punk band MIA, Michael Conley raged against war, racism and the isolation of modern life on stage alongside other legendary acts in the 1980s like the Dead Kennedys and Social Distortion.

“Life’s a mess, you gotta face it, if you’re not a millionaire it’s hard to make it, I’m a mess, that’s for sure,” Conley sang in one song.

More recently, Conley became a champion for revitalizing the economy in Westside Costa Mesa as the owner of The Avalon Bar, 820 19th St., a popular venue for Orange County DJs.

“We used to kid he was the mayor of Costa Mesa because everyone knew him,” said Jeff “Meatball” Tulinius, a longtime friend of Conley’s. “He was a popular guy — everyone knew Mike Conley.”

Conley, a father of three, died in suburban Chicago Thursday after he was found suffering a major head wound in a motel parking lot near O’Hare International Airport. Cook County Sheriff’s deputies are investigating. Investigators are waiting for the results of toxicology tests after an autopsy was done. He was 48 years old.

A longtime local resident, Conley was known for his efforts to bring music and art to Westside Costa Mesa.

“He was a pioneer,” said Brett Walker, owner of eVocal, a boutique and art space near The Avalon Bar.

Conley was Walker’s landlord and helped him get eVocal off the ground, he said.

“He was one of the few people on the Westside to bring in businesses and help make change in this area,” Walker said. “He was an artist himself who understood the importance of arts and culture.”

As a bar owner, Conley strove to make The Avalon Bar a hip enclave for people in the know. With no sign to attract customers, the establishment relied on word-of-mouth advertising. Conley was skilled at working with wood and restored all the wood cabinetry in the bar himself, Tulinius said.

“It was like something you would find in New York — very dark-low-lighting-cozy atmosphere,” Walker said. “Once people made The Avalon their home, that’s where they would go. He really wanted it to be a special place for people who understood what he was doing.”

Former MIA guitar player Nick Adams said Conley had a knack for drawing people to him.

“Mike was really a very charismatic guy,” Adams said. “He had an energy about him that I think attracted people.”

The band formed out of the ashes of the Las Vegas punk band the Swell after members Adams and Conley both moved to California, according to their official biography from Alternative Tentacles, the band’s record label. MIA played parties and at the seminal Costa Mesa punk venue the Cuckoo’s Nest in the early 1980s.

After breaking up and eventually reforming and short tours through the Southwest, MIA landed a record deal with Alternative Tentacles and toured America and Canada in 1984.

The band broke up in 1985, but reformed again in 1986. Alternative Tentacles released a compilation of the band’s studio and live recordings over the years in 2001 titled “Lost Boys.”

Conley made friends everywhere he went, Adams said. Wherever the show, Conley would be surrounded by a crowd.

Conley’s new friends would often end up tagging along with the band for a few stops on tour — which generally consisted of four punk rockers rolling across the United States in a van full of equipment.

Barking out the lyrics to songs like “I Hate Hippies” over buzz-saw guitar parts, Conley was a charismatic frontman, Adams said.

“He was very energetic on stage, he had a lot of drive. He had a vision for the band that was very creative,” Adams said. “It was a time when there was kind of a rebellion against the regular music industry so it was exciting to make your own records and put together your own tours.”

Former Dead Kennedys singer Jello Biafra remembers the first time he saw MIA, in Las Vegas in 1983.

“The venue was two used storage spaces that some punks had knocked the middle wall out of and turned into a secret illegal nightclub,” Biafra said. “You can’t get more punk rock than that that, and that is where I first saw MIA.”

Biafra offered to sign Conley and MIA to his Alternative Tentacles label that night. Biafra said Conley’s distinctive voice was one of the factors that made the band stick out.

“The minute you hear a song with him singing you know it’s him. It’s the best possible thing a singer can have — even if he has a range of one note, but Mike had a range of many more than one note,” Biafra said.

Mike Watt, bass player of fellow ’80s punk group the Minutemen, also spoke of Conley’s distinct vocals.

“I could tell it was them right away because of his singing,” Watt said via e-mail. “Very distinctive.”

Biafra said MIA mastered the Southern California hardcore sound of the early ’80s. He said the conservatism of Orange County influenced many of the area punk bands like MIA, TSOL and DI.

“That is partly what made the hardcore that came out of Orange County so hardcore — they were so repressed.”

The news of Conley’s death saddened Biafra, who noted he is among many in the hardcore community who died too young.

Conley is survived by longtime girlfriend Shelly “Syd” Leonard and his three daughters: Alex, 18, a freshman and Division 1 soccer player at La Salle University; Zoe, 9, and Ava, 5.


Friends and family of Mike Conley have set up the Mike Conley Family Memorial Fund to help put his three daughters through college. To donate, send checks to the Mike Conley Family Memorial Fund, care of Orange County Teachers Federal Credit Union, P.O. Box 11547, Santa Ana, 92711. For more information, call The Avalon Bar at (949) 515-4650

Ok the story (those of you who hear my bullshit regular know this to be one of my favorite "punk rock injury" stories):

i think it was in 84. There was a great show going on at Perkins Palace in Pasadena with Youth Brigade, Suicidal Tendencies and a bunch of other bands. The band opening the night was MIA. i was familiar with the band from the compilation "Not All's Quiet on the Western Front". MIA had a song on there called "New Left" and i knew all the words. i wanted to be there for the beginning of the night so i could get up on stage and sing the song.

my friends (including little brother Joe) got there early and MIA was kicking ass. i was being a critical dick whenever someone would do a stage dive because they were jumping feet first. "Fuck those pussies. i'm going to do the first flip of the night."

Then "New Left" busted out. i pulled my self onto the stage (for those of you not familiar with the old Perkins stage, you had to pull yourself up from the orchestra pit...high stage), jumped next to Michael Connely and started screaming:

"Nuclear Fire
Nuclear War
It doesn't matter to me any more
The leaders are all hesitant
There's bullets in the president"

Then i got back by the drum kit because i was going to need a good run. i booked it full speed for the edge of the stage. Before my foot hit the lip of the stage, a thought entered my head: "Hey, there's not too many people out there."

i hesitated for a second but could not stop the momentum. i flew over the orchestra pit and landed flat on my back in front of the first row of seats. It felt like all my bones flew out of my body (just like a Bugs Bunny cartoon). i was laying there in shock and the first thing i saw was my brother Joe and friend Danny. Joe opened his mouth:

"You're an asshole."

They helped me into the seat nearest and i sat there for most of the night. i didn't know how fucked up i was until Youth Brigade was at the break in "Men in Blue" (the funky rap). Shawn Sterling says to the crowd "Hey everybody, get on stage for the break dance contest!"

A stage full of punks, looking ridiculous popping and breaking, i had to get up there. i stood up and immediately fell down. Legs weren't working because of some tearing that went on. i did gimp out with Joe and Danny's help after the show. Fortunately 16 year old me healed pretty fast.

RIP Michael. Thanks for the memory.

03-06-2008, 07:14 PM
Quasar- Aglio E Olio

Quasar? hehe, i wish...Aglio E Olio is a pretty good cd... you heard the song Mullet Head?