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Gribbz
06-25-2012, 06:29 AM
Excellent.

TomAz
06-25-2012, 06:38 AM
Well it could be better, but it's something. They did uphold the one part where a police officer can attempt to determine immigration status if there is a "reasonable suspicion" the person is in the country illegally.

Miroir Noir
06-25-2012, 07:33 AM
Tom, that provision will still be open for future legal challenge. The Court just determined that as a matter of procedure, the federal government can't constitutionally preempt Arizona from trying it. The racial profiling and discrimination aspects of the law weren't even litigated at this point. They will be now.

chairmenmeow47
06-25-2012, 01:30 PM
fuck yeah. suck it, brewer & pearce.

locachica73
06-28-2012, 09:39 AM
My company is currently looking to hire anyone who can breath. It would require working outside in the heat, we need laborers, operators, drillers, foreman, etc. and a valid drivers license is about the only stipulation, and they are even willing to slide on that at this point. I was told that if we refer anyone and they make it 3 months we get $100. So if you know any desperate construction types please let me know. I could use $100. Although, this place kinda sucks, but most construction companies do.

downingthief
07-02-2012, 08:40 AM
Shamless plug time...

My buddy Payton is opening the latest place that you ALL need to check out today:

http://brathausaz.com/

24 beers on tap, plus a huge bottle selection. Home made brats, pretzels, etc. He is an amazing chef. I'm picking this for our next boardie meet up. :)

It's located in the old Oregano's old town Scottsdale location. I went to a VIP opening on Saturday evening. Looks amazing, and I got to sample the food and some of the beers on tap. He's modeled it in honor of the beer gardens in Germany and the mid-west.

captncrzy
07-02-2012, 08:52 AM
Looks great. I've got a $20 that Peyton has been to Wurstekuche in LA. Menu is pretty close.

downingthief
07-02-2012, 08:56 AM
Dunno, but I will ask him. I tried the rabbit and rattlesnake on Saturday. Both were amazing.

TomAz
07-02-2012, 09:42 AM
The web page I loaded doesn't seem to link to any menu.

That place looks incredible though. AIMED RIGHT AT ME.

downingthief
07-02-2012, 09:46 AM
Here is a new times article from the event on Saturday:

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/2012/07/python_brats_and_beer_plenty_o.php

Tom, it's legit. Payton has thrown a lot of money, blood, sweat, and tears into this place. Trust me when I say if he puts all that into something, it's going to be great.

locachica73
07-02-2012, 09:46 AM
Does that mean we might actually see you at a meetup, instead of only seeing you in April?

Also, I didn't get a menu either, I don't know that I am down for eating bunny sausage but I would try rattlesnake.

downingthief
07-02-2012, 09:49 AM
Rattlesnake was yummy, as well as the Python. :p

amyzzz
07-02-2012, 09:54 AM
That doesn't really sound like my kind of place. I could, perhaps, eat a pretzel.

locachica73
07-02-2012, 10:12 AM
Well if nothing else Amy, they do have hard cider on the beer menu. :)

Sean, do they snake sausages taste like chicken?

captncrzy
07-02-2012, 10:16 AM
Yeah, menu is very very similar to Wurstekuche. Which is fine, because Wurstekuche is one of my favorite bars in the free world.

amyzzz
07-02-2012, 10:22 AM
Ok, I'll come for a pretzel and a cider.

Timestretch
07-02-2012, 10:33 AM
Just talking about this place. I'm hitting this place us tomorrow for happy hour with work colleagues. Going to try the rabbit and lamb. What exactly are Belgium fries?

captncrzy
07-02-2012, 10:55 AM
They're really thick fries fried a couple of times and they serve a choice of dipping sauces with them.

downingthief
07-02-2012, 11:45 AM
His aren't thick, but are crispy. Dipping sauces are yummy.

Just went for lunch. Had the beer brat with spicy peppers, and the fries. Deeelic.

Oh, and on the snake taste; yes you can say they are similar to chicken. If you ate it, you would never guess what it was.

TomAz
07-02-2012, 11:47 AM
Was it crowded today on opening day?

downingthief
07-02-2012, 11:50 AM
Not too bad, but I got there early. I'll be stopping by there again after work, if anyone else is game.

TomAz
07-02-2012, 12:05 PM
When I was in Brussels last year we went to this place, Maison Antoine, which was really amazing and then we took our fries across the street to a beer place where we sat outside and drank good belgian beer with our fries.

http://www.gourmet.com/images/restaurants/2009/09/rs-belgian-frites-608.jpg

http://www.hollyeats.com/images/Europe/Brussels/Antoine-Menu-Big.jpg

The idea of adding 'artisan' brats to that has me giddy with excitement.

amyzzz
07-02-2012, 12:06 PM
When I was in Brussels last year You're an asshole.

locachica73
07-02-2012, 12:09 PM
Looks like Tom is avoiding my question directed at him... boo!

Sean, I would but money is tight for the next week or two. But hopefully we can plan a meetup there after that, maybe Tom will join us.

downingthief
07-02-2012, 12:11 PM
If Tom shows up, we all will collectively do a "spit take" with our beer.

:)

Somewhat Damaged
07-02-2012, 12:15 PM
So I was just thinking yesterday how we haven't had a meetup in what feels like forever, and the opening of this new restaurant sounds like as good an occasion as any. How's this weekend for everybody? And yes, Tom, you need to be in attendance.

locachica73
07-02-2012, 12:16 PM
I just had to google spit take. Yes, I would probably do that. :)

TomAz
07-02-2012, 12:20 PM
You're an asshole.

Two weeks from right now, I will be in Berlin.

Three weeks from right now, I will be in St Petersburg.

captncrzy
07-02-2012, 12:23 PM
7 weeks from right now, I will be in Hamburg.

TomAz
07-02-2012, 12:25 PM
Looks like Tom is avoiding my question directed at him... boo!

I didn't realize the question was directed at me.




So I was just thinking yesterday how we haven't had a meetup in what feels like forever, and the opening of this new restaurant sounds like as good an occasion as any. How's this weekend for everybody? And yes, Tom, you need to be in attendance.

I have to go to Flag on Friday but I think I'll be back by Saturday evening.

locachica73
07-02-2012, 12:26 PM
You are the only one that I have only seen in April so I figured it was easily assumed. If Tom makes it out I will pool my spare change and at least come out for 1 beer & braut.

TomAz
07-02-2012, 12:28 PM
If you and I are drinking beer together you don't have to worry about money.

Also, you saw me in March, remember?

amyzzz
07-02-2012, 12:30 PM
On Saturday, I will be at Sanibel Island in Florida, so I guess that is not too bad. However, I can't make a meetup for this weekend because of that.

downingthief
07-02-2012, 12:33 PM
This weekend looks pretty good for me.

captncrzy
07-02-2012, 12:34 PM
I'm excited to report that it looks like they're opening a Cornish Pasty Co. downtown.

locachica73
07-02-2012, 12:39 PM
If you and I are drinking beer together you don't have to worry about money.

Also, you saw me in March, remember?

Oh Yeah, I had forgotten, I take it back. But it would be nice to see you more often, but I understand since you live so far.

Also, that is a very kind offer, I will probably be in one way or another for Saturday if this happens. I just have to cross my fingers my daughter gets her subsistance check, if not I have to cover my rent and hers. :(

mountmccabe
07-02-2012, 12:58 PM
Yeah, menu is very very similar to Wurstekuche. Which is fine, because Wurstekuche is one of my favorite bars in the free world.

I think I have been there before; I want to say I went there with folks after a Joanna Newsom concert in 2010. Can anyone else that was there (maybe 4 other board folks) confirm? The place I went to was cool, at any rate.

Also next time you come to NYC I'd recommend trying Wechsler's Currywurst (http://www.currywurstnyc.com/) in the East Village.


Also also hi, everybody!

captncrzy
07-02-2012, 01:01 PM
I MISS YOU SO HARD

downingthief
07-02-2012, 01:14 PM
I MISS YOU SO HARD

HAWT

mountmccabe
07-02-2012, 01:36 PM
I miss y'all too!

downingthief
07-02-2012, 01:45 PM
Hi, John!

Timestretch
07-03-2012, 05:37 AM
I woke up damn early today and it's all because I got sausages and beer on my mind (and some curry ketchup)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiGRpm6Tf3I

downingthief
07-03-2012, 09:43 AM
What day are we thinking for this weekend? Friday, or Saturday? They don't take reservations, but I can let them know ahead of time how many we are expecting, and they will do there best to accommodate.

chairmenmeow47
07-03-2012, 09:52 AM
what's going on?

downingthief
07-03-2012, 10:00 AM
what's going on?

We were talking about doing a meet up at Brat Haus in Scottsdale. I know the chef there, and been a few times already. Very yummy beers and food!

amyzzz
07-03-2012, 10:06 AM
I could probably go Friday after work (6:30-ish), but I can't stay late because I have an early flight the next morning.

locachica73
07-03-2012, 10:41 AM
I have nothing going on either Friday or Saturday, so just let me know. :)

TomAz
07-03-2012, 10:51 AM
LETS GO TONIGHT

downingthief
07-03-2012, 10:54 AM
tempting for me, but I have other plans

captncrzy
07-03-2012, 11:08 AM
We have boxing on Friday nights. Saturday is preferable.

westcoastpirate
07-03-2012, 11:55 AM
I'm excited to report that it looks like they're opening a Cornish Pasty Co. downtown.

Sweet!

amyzzz
07-03-2012, 11:59 AM
We already have a Cornish Pasty Co in Mesa. I go there once a month or so. If I'd have known you guys liked it, maybe we could have arranged a meet-up while it was still sort of exclusive to Mesa (and that tiny one in by ASU). It's damn noisy there though.

Somewhat Damaged
07-05-2012, 11:33 AM
So, this weekend. What's the plan? We're going to that bar Saturday night regardless. Can't make it Friday.

M Sparks
07-05-2012, 12:01 PM
We already have a Cornish Pasty Co in Mesa. I go there once a month or so. If I'd have known you guys liked it, maybe we could have arranged a meet-up while it was still sort of exclusive to Mesa (and that tiny one in by ASU). It's damn noisy there though.

The ASU one is 3 times the size now. I was kind of bummed, I liked sitting at the kitchen and watching them work, but either it was really slow or they added a back kitchen because there was barely any activity and everyone else was sitting at the bar on the other side.

I have to work Friday night for a few hours, I might be able to go out on Saturday, but it's iffy, I'll check in here.

locachica73
07-05-2012, 12:03 PM
So, this weekend. What's the plan? We're going to that bar Saturday night regardless. Can't make it Friday.

I'm in for Saturday. What time are you guys thinking?

downingthief
07-05-2012, 12:09 PM
Saturday is a go for me as well to Brat Haus. So far we have:

Sean + Rayn
Jen
Rick
Audra + 1

Who else? Tom? Ivy? the Amy's?

amyzzz
07-05-2012, 12:16 PM
As I said, I can't go Saturday. Have fun.

captncrzy
07-05-2012, 12:23 PM
GOD SEAN LEARN TO READ

downingthief
07-05-2012, 12:24 PM
I don't wanna! You can't make me! Oh, crap I just did. ARRGGHHH

locachica73
07-05-2012, 12:28 PM
My friend at work just broke up with her girlfriend and we were suppose to hang out together at some point this weekend. Would it be ok if I brought her?

Mr. Dylanja
07-05-2012, 12:29 PM
Sean clearly directed that toward the amy's, not the amyzzz.

downingthief
07-05-2012, 12:32 PM
My friend at work just broke up with her girlfriend and we were suppose to hang out together at some point this weekend. Would it be ok if I brought her?

Absolutely!

captncrzy
07-05-2012, 12:33 PM
DONT TRY TO HELP DYLAN YOU WONT COME ANYWAY

downingthief
07-05-2012, 12:34 PM
Sadly, that is true. Does he really even exist? He's like the chupacabra.

Mr. Dylanja
07-05-2012, 12:39 PM
Is there any place that shows UFC nearby? I was planning on watching the Silva fight somewhere.

downingthief
07-05-2012, 12:45 PM
Is there any place that shows UFC nearby? I was planning on watching the Silva fight somewhere.

Only sports bars in the general area are either Upper Deck, or maybe Majerle's. Upper Deck would be closer.

downingthief
07-05-2012, 01:02 PM
Awww, this makes me sad (http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/20120703cocos-near-scottsdale-fashion-square-closes.html)

I would go there all the time with my Mom. She worked at Motorola at 56th and Indian School, and she would pick me up from pre-school/kindergarten to go there for dinner. Would take my Son there sometimes, too. Lots of good childhood memories.

Somewhat Damaged
07-05-2012, 01:29 PM
My friend at work just broke up with her girlfriend and we were suppose to hang out together at some point this weekend. Would it be ok if I brought her?

I don't know how comfortable I am with a lesbian showing up. Won't be able to make all the homophobic jokes I tend to trot out.

locachica73
07-05-2012, 01:34 PM
Haha, I have faith you can control yourself. If not I would put money on her in an arm wrestling match.

Somewhat Damaged
07-05-2012, 02:03 PM
Is she one of those freakishly muscular bull dykes?

TomAz
07-05-2012, 02:04 PM
Saturday is a go for me as well to Brat Haus. So far we have:

Sean + Rayn
Jen
Rick
Audra + 1

Who else? Tom? Ivy? the Amy's?

Maybe. I will be in flagstaff during the day but should be back in town at a decent hour. what time are all y'all meeting

TomAz
07-05-2012, 02:05 PM
Awww, this makes me sad (http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/20120703cocos-near-scottsdale-fashion-square-closes.html)

I would go there all the time with my Mom. She worked at Motorola at 56th and Indian School, and she would pick me up from pre-school/kindergarten to go there for dinner. Would take my Son there sometimes, too. Lots of good childhood memories.

Leather cocks!

Somewhat Damaged
07-05-2012, 03:00 PM
I'm guessing we'll be there around 6, although we could be there earlier/later depending on what works for everyone else.

locachica73
07-05-2012, 03:02 PM
Is she one of those freakishly muscular bull dykes?

Not so much, she's about 5' tall but she's strong. She was in the military, works in construction and does p90x or whatever that new thing is. I'd bet on her in most fights.

Somewhat Damaged
07-05-2012, 03:59 PM
Not so much, she's about 5' tall but she's strong. She was in the military, works in construction and does p90x or whatever that new thing is. I'd bet on her in most fights.

Well, I'm sure we won't come to blows anyway. Figured that ship sailed when Nick went buh-bye.

downingthief
07-05-2012, 04:12 PM
6 sounds good to me.

chairmenmeow47
07-05-2012, 06:30 PM
i will decide right before if i'm coming and let someone know :)

downingthief
07-06-2012, 01:18 AM
i will decide right before if i'm coming and let someone know :)

Make sure your decision is the CORRECT one. :p

locachica73
07-06-2012, 04:44 AM
Well, I'm sure we won't come to blows anyway. Figured that ship sailed when Nick went buh-bye.

LOL I figured, you guys are a pretty welcoming bunch. I just like to ask prior to inviting any new person into a group of friends.

chairmenmeow47
07-06-2012, 06:13 AM
if i come saturday, i'm probably bringing a date.

TheClares
07-06-2012, 12:47 PM
theclares, both of us, are in for tomorrow as well

Somewhat Damaged
07-06-2012, 12:50 PM
if i come saturday, i'm probably bringing a date.

Won't be a rehash of the epic 2008 revelation, will it?


theclares, both of us, are in for tomorrow as well

Yay! I'll remember to bring a DVD of Method with me.

downingthief
07-06-2012, 04:50 PM
Sweet.

Ok, so we have:

Sean + Rayn
Rick + Jen
Ivy + 1
Paul + Kim
Audra + 1
Tom (maybe)

Audra, what about Adrienne?

Six shall be time. Best chance for parking is either across the street (open dirt lot), behind Salty Seņorita, or next to Bucca di Beppo. I'll see if they can help out on a table. Limited seating inside, but their patio has the mother of all misters.

locachica73
07-06-2012, 05:07 PM
Adrienne is a maybe. I don't think she will know till tomorrow.

TomAz
07-08-2012, 06:02 AM
Yeah so I didn't make it last night, for any number of reasons. I suck. Hope you all had fun.

locachica73
07-08-2012, 08:01 AM
Dinner with your daughter is more important so no worries.

Sean, the food was so good, I plan to go back just for another pretzel and cheese, and so many beer options. It was nice to get out of my normal neighborhood. :)

Somewhat Damaged
07-08-2012, 09:09 AM
I see bright things in the future for Brat Haus. So glad you're friends with the chef, Sean. That pretzel & cheese were ridiculous, as was everything else we ate. Tom, you done missed out.

Audra: which of your friends was the coworker?

locachica73
07-08-2012, 11:23 AM
Actually my coworker friend wasnt there. She flaked out on me. Boo!

Somewhat Damaged
07-08-2012, 01:29 PM
That explains it. I was trying to figure out which one worked construction, did P90X, and made you think they could beat me in an arm wrestling match and had no fucking idea who it could've been.

locachica73
07-08-2012, 01:32 PM
Lol, yeah, celeste and dina are very girly, although dina is a scrapper but I think you could take her.

chairmenmeow47
07-08-2012, 02:30 PM
sorry i missed y'all, but i'm sure rick explained where i was :)

downingthief
07-09-2012, 08:52 AM
I see bright things in the future for Brat Haus. So glad you're friends with the chef, Sean. That pretzel & cheese were ridiculous, as was everything else we ate. Tom, you done missed out.



Glad you all enjoyed! I think it will be successful, for sure. Quality is already there, and he has a great team working with him.

captncrzy
07-09-2012, 02:50 PM
I'm going to lunch this week there with my work lunch friend.

chairmenmeow47
07-11-2012, 12:03 PM
WHY IS THE LINE BUSY?!?! WE ARE HOSTING A ROCK BAND FOR BILL MURRAY MOTHER FUCKERS

well, if someone will answer the phone

http://www.superofficialnews.com/bill_murray_party_tour.pdf

*edit* i'm a gullable idiot. gulla-calf even.

captncrzy
07-11-2012, 12:22 PM
oh geez.

But that would be awesome if it were real.

OnlyNonStranger
07-11-2012, 05:08 PM
Hello Phoenix residents. By this time next week I will be in your fair city. Looking at the 10 day forecast I see lots of chances of rain. Here in Alberta, you can't believe the weather forecast as the weather changes here very quickly and often. For example, it went from 34 degrees Celsius by noon to hail by 4pm yesterday. What are the chances that it will actually be sunny next week if there are calls for rain? I'm trying to plan accordingly.

captncrzy
07-11-2012, 05:58 PM
A call for rain means that it will be cloudy and raining for about 10 minutes at some point between 5pm and 8pm.

TOOLRAGE
07-11-2012, 05:59 PM
Hello Phoenix residents. By this time next week I will be in your fair city. Looking at the 10 day forecast I see lots of chances of rain. Here in Alberta, you can't believe the weather forecast as the weather changes here very quickly and often. For example, it went from 34 degrees Celsius by noon to hail by 4pm yesterday. What are the chances that it will actually be sunny next week if there are calls for rain? I'm trying to plan accordingly.

It will most likely be sunny for 90-95% of your trip. The monsoon storms usually have a difficult time reaching phx.

Somewhat Damaged
07-11-2012, 09:05 PM
It's going to be 95 degrees at 7am and only get hotter from there. What part of town will you be in? We're in Avondale and got some light sprinkling yesterday but generally only get a fraction of what's incurred on the east side of town (Mesa, Chandler, downtown).

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 04:59 AM
I'll be staying in Scottsdale, with the rest of the Canadians(from what I understand).

chairmenmeow47
07-12-2012, 06:37 AM
will we get to meet?

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 06:53 AM
Yes? I'm already planning on meeting up with Gribbz for a hike. You're more than welcome to join us, as is anyone.

captncrzy
07-12-2012, 07:14 AM
If you're staying in Scottsdale, I HIGHLY recommend this place:

http://brathausaz.com/

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 07:19 AM
Haha, yeah I've actually been reading this thread for the past week or so and saw that you all went there. It's definitely on the list.

downingthief
07-12-2012, 08:11 AM
What part of Scottsdale? I live and work there.

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 08:23 AM
Looking at the map I am just east of the 101 and north of E Shea Blvd.

downingthief
07-12-2012, 08:25 AM
Ah, ok. Nice area. It's more North from where I am at. I live/work in what is called either "old town, or downtown" Scottsdale. Around the cross streets of Indian School and Scottsdale Road.

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 08:28 AM
Anything you can think of that is a must do? Best Mexican food, pub, etc?

NachoCat
07-12-2012, 08:30 AM
R&R has a great happy hour from 3-7 in scottsdale.

downingthief
07-12-2012, 08:38 AM
Anything you can think of that is a must do? Best Mexican food, pub, etc?

Well, Jen mentioned Brat Haus. That is a must.

If you want a unique Mexican experience, my recommendation is Barrio Queen http://barrioqueen.com/welcome.html . Another good one is Los Sombreros http://lossombreros.com/ . If you want more straight forward, Los Olivos http://www.losolivosrestaurants.com/ .

If you enjoy Brat Haus, you would most likely also enjoy Papago Brewery http://www.papagobrewing.com/ .

R&R does have a solid happy hour. Was just there for a company event on Tuesday. http://rnrscottsdale.com/

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 08:54 AM
My plan for my four days is to eat Mexican food, drink beer, buy some cheap American goods, and a hike. In saying that I will probably visit all of those places.

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 09:17 AM
Also, holy shit, all of those places are dirt cheap.

NachoCat
07-12-2012, 09:29 AM
Yeah, and the food is pretty damn good at r&r... The sliders, ahi tacos or the animal fries are all excellent for happy hour choices... I went the other day and had like 5 beers and animal fries, I wanna say it was like $20

chairmenmeow47
07-12-2012, 10:07 AM
hey tom, anything to do in fountain hills? killing time between tests at mayo. though we just found fort mcdowell so that may answer my question :)

and ONS, i'll pm ya :)

captncrzy
07-12-2012, 10:24 AM
Butterfields is good for pancakes. http://butterfieldsrestaurant.com/index.asp

I also think the Coach House is a great dive bar during the week and the days on the weekends. On Friday and Saturday nights, it gets douchey (but every place in Scottsdale does).
http://www.coachhousescottsdale.com/coach_house/Home.html

Patties First Avenue Lounge is also a great dive bar. I know someone that got engaged in the alley at Patties; she was in the alley because she went out there to puke. (no link; google for yelp/facebook)

Rogue Bar has electro/indie stuff in there on some / most nights. Very hipster laden. (no link; google for yelp/facebook)

Artisan Ice Cream place by where you're staying: http://sweetrepublic.com/

If you decide you want some Italian, DeFalcos has the best meatball sub I've ever had, hands down. http://defalcosdeli.com/

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 11:02 AM
Wow, thanks for planning my trip guys. Now who wants to get drunk?

westcoastpirate
07-12-2012, 11:11 AM
If you want to get drunk, Four Peaks (local brewery) has a location a couple miles from where you are staying, and there's a pretty sweet Irish Bar called Skeptical Chymist in the same complex.

http://www.fourpeaks.com/#

http://skepticalchymist.com/

TomAz
07-12-2012, 11:30 AM
I am very fond of Skeptical Chymist, myself.

TomAz
07-12-2012, 11:30 AM
hey tom, anything to do in fountain hills?

Well, you can go see the fountain!

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 11:38 AM
Four Peaks is a chain right? I think I went to one in Texas when I lived there.

captncrzy
07-12-2012, 11:47 AM
I'm not a huge fan of Four Peaks. Overrated IMO.

I will, however, get drunk with you.

captncrzy
07-12-2012, 11:49 AM
Oh, and if you're hiking with Gribbz in Tucson, make him take you to Mi Nidito. Probably the best mexican food in the state.

westcoastpirate
07-12-2012, 12:54 PM
Four Peaks is a chain right? I think I went to one in Texas when I lived there.

Four Peaks is not a chain. They only have 2 locations, one in Tempe and the other in Scottsdale, both of them in Arizona.

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 01:13 PM
Then what am I thinking of? Captn I'm there the 17th-20th. Pick a day.

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 01:17 PM
Oh, except on the 19th. That's our Tucson day.

Mr. Dylanja
07-12-2012, 01:20 PM
Twin Peaks?

Gribbz
07-12-2012, 01:33 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Four Peaks. Overrated IMO.

I will, however, get drunk with you.

I dig Four Peaks. I'm more partial to Papago though. Used to live right down the street...

Mr. Dylanja
07-12-2012, 01:38 PM
More like Slapabro.

Timestretch
07-12-2012, 01:43 PM
Twin Peaks?

There is a Twin Peaks beer place in Austin. Not sure if it's a chain. Ginger man?

captncrzy
07-12-2012, 01:43 PM
The only day I can do it is the 19th. EXCEPT, we're going to see Shut Up and Play the Hits on the 18th in downtown Tempe on the 18th, and I think a few of us are just going to grab drinks before the movie if you want to do that. I work across the street from the theater, so I'm available from 4pm on.

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 01:59 PM
Twin Peaks! That's definitely what I was thinking of.

Shut Up and Play the Hits is very tempting. I feel like I've planned this trip already all on my own so I'm going to have to get some input from my better half and she what she would like to do.

captncrzy
07-12-2012, 02:05 PM
Yeah no worries on going to the movie. I was mostly talking about the drinks part.

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 02:16 PM
You know I instantly thought that after I hit reply but c'est la vie.

OnlyNonStranger
07-12-2012, 02:30 PM
Dune Buggying. Is that a thing down there? My google skills are failing me.

westcoastpirate
07-12-2012, 02:48 PM
I dig Four Peaks. I'm more partial to Papago though. Used to live right down the street...

Four Peaks beers are okay. Raj and Hop Knot are their best beers. There's also a Nimbus location in Scottsdale now off Scottsdale Rd and Indian Bend, which is pretty close to where ONS is staying. Nimbus is, by far, my favorite AZ brewery.

EDIT-I should rephrase that Nimbus makes my favorite AZ brewed beer, Old Monkeyshine. Overall I am still undecided on my favorite AZ brewery. I will take this to the Beer thread now.

Timestretch
07-12-2012, 02:51 PM
There's lots of desert to ride dirtbikes---particularly Apache Junction. I no longer own any so I haven't gone out since moving back here. You should be able to find a rental place for off-road vehicles within the city and then hit up the trails either East or North of the metro area. Definitely dune buggying outside of Yuma. It will be super hot in that gear, though. So maybe early early morning.

chairmenmeow47
07-13-2012, 12:17 AM
the pretzels at four peaks with some goat cheese rule. also, i don't think i'll be up for a hike just yet as i have some medical stuff going on the next few weeks. but i am practically halfway between gribbz and captn :)

OnlyNonStranger
07-13-2012, 06:47 AM
We'll have to try to meet up then.

Just for anyone that cares I found this place (http://www.gogreenzebra.com/scottsdale/). It had good reviews on Yelp and looks like exactly what we wanted.

TomAz
07-13-2012, 06:55 AM
Hope you like intense heat.

OnlyNonStranger
07-13-2012, 07:00 AM
I would say that's pretty much the point.

captncrzy
07-13-2012, 07:52 AM
Speaking of Shut Up and Play the Hits, I'm thinking if anyone wants to meet beforehand, let's meet at the Canteen Tequila Bar. They have a fantastic happy hour and it's right across the street from the theater.

Or Hooters is next door.

Somewhat Damaged
07-13-2012, 08:57 AM
Canteen Tequila Bar is where we went before Interpol last year, yeah?

captncrzy
07-13-2012, 09:35 AM
Yep. Or Robbie Fox's is next door to Canteen. Either one.

There is a World of Beers opening right down there too; unfortunately, it won't be open in time.

zonarob
07-13-2012, 11:20 AM
I also think the Coach House is a great dive bar during the week and the days on the weekends. On Friday and Saturday nights, it gets douchey (but every place in Scottsdale does).
http://www.coachhousescottsdale.com/coach_house/Home.html

Patties First Avenue Lounge is also a great dive bar. I know someone that got engaged in the alley at Patties; she was in the alley because she went out there to puke. (no link; google for yelp/facebook)


If you decide you want some Italian, DeFalcos has the best meatball sub I've ever had, hands down. http://defalcosdeli.com/


Coach House and Patties are the two best bars in Old Town in IMHO. They are also walking distance (stumbling?) from each other. The Grapevine and Los Olivos are both walking distance again and good for grub.

DeFalco's is the best Italian deli in Phoenix, again IMO


Oh, and if you're hiking with Gribbz in Tucson, make him take you to Mi Nidito. Probably the best mexican food in the state.

Mi Nidito's rocks! The POTUS ate there too.

A true Arizona-Sonoran experience would be El Guero Canelo in Tucson as well. Sonoran style hot dogs are the best! You can also find Sonoran style hot dogs in some of the lesser neighborhoods in Phoenix. Try this link. http://www.yelp.com/biz/nogales-hot-dogs-phoenix Nogales hot dogs are fairly well know in Phoenix..


I am always amazed at Europeans and Canadians that vacation in our fine state during the summer. Come back in March when the snow at home is deep. You will not be sorry!

Cheers!

chairmenmeow47
07-13-2012, 11:38 AM
i really dislike that canteen place. the drinks are cheap, but the food is fairly terrible and the service has been horrible whenever i've gone. but i'm not going to LCD so who cares what i think :)

clinton ate at mi nidito's in tucson, obama ate at macayo's on central in phoenix.

also, i've never had a sonoran hot dog.

Mr. Dylanja
07-13-2012, 12:14 PM
Try this link. http://www.yelp.com/biz/nogales-hot-dogs-phoenix Nogales hot dogs are fairly well know in Phoenix.

Such enthusiastic reviews. I've actually been here, and it was pretty great although I prefer guacamole to mayo. It is kind of funny how the burger joints are on Camelback, and hot dog places are on Indian School.


Also, Interpol played the worst set I've personally witnessed at Coachella, ever.

OnlyNonStranger
07-17-2012, 11:43 AM
It's not that hot here.

M Sparks
07-17-2012, 11:53 AM
i really dislike that canteen place. the drinks are cheap, but the food is fairly terrible and the service has been horrible whenever i've gone.

I was there a couple of weeks ago and it was really hot too, because it's pretty much just open to the outside.

denies the day
07-17-2012, 11:56 AM
It's not that hot here.

:rotfl

amyzzz
07-17-2012, 01:28 PM
The LCD Soundsystem movie is tomorrow at the Valley Art, right? Who all is going? I might just pick up a ticket at the door...

downingthief
07-17-2012, 01:37 PM
Fun Comedy show right now at the Arpaio press conference:

http://www.abc15.com/generic/news/live-video

Somewhat Damaged
07-17-2012, 01:55 PM
The LCD Soundsystem movie is tomorrow at the Valley Art, right? Who all is going? I might just pick up a ticket at the door...

Jen & I. I'll let others post their commitments since I don't recall who else is in. Where's dinner being eaten beforehand? Was that ever decided?

locachica73
07-17-2012, 02:14 PM
I might be interested in meeting up for dinner/drinks depending on time and location. I am not going to the movie though.

downingthief
07-17-2012, 02:17 PM
Birther press conference is hilarious. Think "Blame Hawaii". They are claiming that no Hawaiian birth certificate can be proven real.

OnlyNonStranger
07-17-2012, 03:00 PM
I went to brauthaus today. Had the rabbit and sorta enjoyed it. Had a nice beer and the fries were good. Also, the owner(I'm assuming) came over and chatted with us for a minute. Asked where we were from and seemed a little disappointed when we told him Canada. I guess he was hoping for some locals for return business. Also he asked us how we had heard of the place and I wasn't really sure how to explain so I just said a friend of a friend, which is kinda true. I guess?

amyzzz
07-17-2012, 04:26 PM
I just checked the Harkins website and noticed there is a 7:00pm showing and a 9:25pm showing of Shut Up and Play the Hits. Is everyone going at 7? I guess it doesn't matter a hell of a lot except I don't know when people are planning to eat/socialize.

Somewhat Damaged
07-17-2012, 07:58 PM
We're going to the 7pm showing. Think that one's sold out, according to Micah.

And since nobody responded, we're just gonna eat at Robbie Fox's if anyone wants to join us.

insbordnat
07-18-2012, 05:53 AM
If by some miracle I can get off of work in time, I'm going. I'm coming from North Scottsdale and work is really hectic right now...

locachica73
07-18-2012, 05:56 AM
I am broke this week, I am drinking cheap beer and grilling chicken by the pool instead. Have a great time everyone! :)

westcoastpirate
07-18-2012, 07:29 AM
If by some miracle I can get off of work in time, I'm going. I'm coming from North Scottsdale and work is really hectic right now...

Same here, I have a huge grant due today at midnight eastern time, which is 9pm AZ time, and my colleagues are pushing it to the last minute!!! Arrghhhh!!!

downingthief
07-18-2012, 08:43 AM
I went to brauthaus today. Had the rabbit and sorta enjoyed it. Had a nice beer and the fries were good. Also, the owner(I'm assuming) came over and chatted with us for a minute. Asked where we were from and seemed a little disappointed when we told him Canada. I guess he was hoping for some locals for return business. Also he asked us how we had heard of the place and I wasn't really sure how to explain so I just said a friend of a friend, which is kinda true. I guess?

Glad you liked it. And yes, that is kinda true. I know the Executive Chef/part owner.

downingthief
07-18-2012, 08:43 AM
We're going to the 7pm showing. Think that one's sold out, according to Micah.

And since nobody responded, we're just gonna eat at Robbie Fox's if anyone wants to join us.

Wish I could go, but no way for me this week.

amyzzz
07-18-2012, 08:50 AM
If the fact that I can't buy advanced tickets on Harkins website means it is sold out, then I guess it is sold out. I'm out!

Alligator Bogaloo
07-19-2012, 09:17 PM
Went to the 9:25 showing of Shut Up and Play The Hits last night. Great doc. Brought back a lot of great memories of seeing LCD back in 2010 (Coachella, Pomona, & Bonnaroo). Ran into Jason and his crew as they were leaving the earlier show.

I noticed that Amy is going to Outside Lands. I will be there also with my cuz from Sacramento. Any other Phoenix boardies going?

Mr. Dylanja
07-19-2012, 11:00 PM
I will be there, Mix Master Micah. I'm pretty fucking excited.

amyzzz
07-20-2012, 07:57 AM
Mark and Jason are going.

Alligator Bogaloo
07-20-2012, 08:34 AM
Nice!

We should find a set or beer/wine garden time to have a phx meet up!

Mr. Dylanja
07-23-2012, 03:39 PM
Has Phoenix always had haboob's happen this frequently? I don't have a distinct memory of any happening while I was growing up. Is it something I've just been oblivious to? Even as recent as maybe five years ago, I don't recall this ever happening. Not just the frequency, but the haboob's in general. Growing up here, it seems like I'd have the image embedded in brain from an early age.

captncrzy
07-23-2012, 03:42 PM
It hasn't happened much in the last five years, but I remember this haboob frequency happening every summer growing up.

getbetter
07-23-2012, 03:49 PM
Has anyone been to the address brewery in Tuscon because that place seems great .Also Bell's brewery which is amazing is available in AZ but not CA which is strange.

captncrzy
07-23-2012, 04:33 PM
I've never even heard of it.

locachica73
07-23-2012, 05:12 PM
I remember big dust storms years ago, but I never remember them being called haboobs until now.

westcoastpirate
07-23-2012, 06:40 PM
Has anyone been to the address brewery in Tuscon because that place seems great .Also Bell's brewery which is amazing is available in AZ but not CA which is strange.

Love 2 Hearted and Oberon. Going to have to research this Address Brewery you speak of.

chairmenmeow47
07-23-2012, 08:21 PM
i don't know why the fuck everyone calls them haboobs now, but we have always had monsoon summers with big dust storms. we just used to get more rain with them. i grew up way far west when it was still the sticks. we'd lose power and set-up chairs in the garage to watch the storm. sometimes the winds were so strong, you couldn't even get out of your car. once my grandpa and i had to just sit in the driveway and wait for it to pass before going in the house.

and zack, message me when you kknow about your trip!!! i have a couch if you need it :)

Gribbz
07-23-2012, 08:47 PM
I've never heard of the "Address Brewery" and I've lived in Tucson for a while.

captncrzy
07-24-2012, 07:54 AM
I bet he's thinking of "Nimbus".

amyzzz
07-24-2012, 09:36 AM
I think haboob is funny. That's why I use it.

M Sparks
07-24-2012, 09:50 AM
I bet he's thinking of "Nimbus".

It's real, but apparently very confusingly named.
http://untappd.com/brewery/20220
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/17783

westcoastpirate
07-24-2012, 02:30 PM
It's real, but apparently very confusingly named.
http://untappd.com/brewery/20220
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/17783

1702/The Address Brewery:
http://www.1702az.com/

Getbetter, if you are coming to sample AZ brews, I second the idea of hitting up Papago Brewery:
http://papagobrewing.com/

...as well as OHSO:
http://ohsobrewery.com/

...and Flanny's:
http://www.flannys.com/

ramblinon
07-24-2012, 03:04 PM
OHSO is a cool place. My cousin took me there a couple years back when I went to visit.

chairmenmeow47
08-02-2012, 06:13 AM
SAVE THE DATE! SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH!

this will be a welcome home amy from SD/hopefully i'll not be puking at this time rock band extraveganza!!!!!!!!!!

downingthief
08-02-2012, 08:13 AM
SAVE THE DATE! SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH!

this will be a welcome home amy from SD/hopefully i'll not be puking at this time rock band extraveganza!!!!!!!!!!

Giddy up!

amyzzz
08-02-2012, 09:03 AM
Yay! Damnit I am going to miss Amy while she is gone.

chairmenmeow47
08-02-2012, 09:19 AM
me too :(

i have really taken to painting though, and would be happy to host a painting party soon in her absence :) we can enjoy amy vicariously by surrounding ourselves with people named amy and painting LOL

amyzzz
08-02-2012, 09:27 AM
hahaha

locachica73
08-02-2012, 09:29 AM
I will miss her too.

I liked painting to, I should go out and buy myself some paints and practice. :)

amyzzz
08-02-2012, 09:31 AM
Audra, I really like your painting. You're good!

Timestretch
08-07-2012, 10:13 AM
Although late to the game, I really like that Tempe no longer has speed cameras. Not that I'm speed racer in my shitty car or anything, but it's nice to not have cars in front of you slam on the brakes when they drive past the cameras.

And World of Beers opens today. I might get out of bed to check it out.

locachica73
08-07-2012, 10:24 AM
I am excited to not be poor one day so I can check out World of Beers.

captncrzy
08-07-2012, 11:09 AM
Although late to the game, I really like that Tempe no longer has speed cameras. Not that I'm speed racer in my shitty car or anything, but it's nice to not have cars in front of you slam on the brakes when they drive past the cameras.

And World of Beers opens today. I might get out of bed to check it out.

I think it's just a Facebook friend party tonight; says Aug 8 for full opening.

I'm happy the menus are finally up.

TomAz
08-15-2012, 08:57 AM
This may be the single most worthwhile thing the Arizona Republic has ever done. Seriously.

http://www.azcentral.com/projects/news/politics/dekook/

amyzzz
08-15-2012, 09:01 AM
Thanks for the link.

downingthief
08-15-2012, 09:47 AM
This may be the single most worthwhile thing the Arizona Republic has ever done. Seriously.

http://www.azcentral.com/projects/news/politics/dekook/

Ha! I was JUST about to post this!! Couldn't agree more.

NachoCat
08-15-2012, 10:55 AM
Still got ID fest tickets for sale $25 each. They are selling for 40 right now

Mr. Dylanja
08-15-2012, 10:57 AM
Still got ID fest tickets for sale $25 each. They are selling for 40 right now

Let me know when you're ready to give them to me :winkiss

NachoCat
08-15-2012, 11:03 AM
:laughyou

downingthief
08-17-2012, 02:09 PM
Happy Hour? Anyone? Anywhere?

Courtney
08-17-2012, 02:10 PM
Give me six hours.

downingthief
08-17-2012, 02:14 PM
Give me six hours.

For you Courtney, I'll give you 7.

captncrzy
08-17-2012, 02:22 PM
I'd love to but my mouth is bugging me and we're supposed to go to kickboxing tonight. Verdammt.

downingthief
08-17-2012, 02:23 PM
I'd love to but my mouth is bugging me and we're supposed to go to kickboxing tonight. Verdammt.

I'm tired of your excuses.

captncrzy
08-17-2012, 02:24 PM
Just bad timing.

amyzzz
08-17-2012, 02:26 PM
I work until 6 after all the happy hours are over.

amyzzz
08-26-2012, 06:53 PM
I just realized the primary election is on Tuesday, and I haven't decided who to vote for. This is when I feel bad about not reading any local news. or watching tv news.

TomAz
08-26-2012, 07:07 PM
spend the day at work tomorrow researching which candidates are the least bad.

amyzzz
08-26-2012, 07:15 PM
I can bring my ballot to work. I really don't want to vote for a Flake though. And I need to write in someone other than Arpaio.

chairmenmeow47
09-05-2012, 05:15 PM
anyone see this? same retarded hospital that messed up my ultrasound and almost wheeled me into surgery for the wrong reason. then made me fast for 12 hours, go through the exact same, extremely painful (to the point of screaming) ultrasound, only to refuse to operate to find the problem. they charged me $25,000 for iv meds, tests, and talking to doctors for five seconds a day. my insurance company only paid like a fifth of that, but without insurance, i'd owe the whole thing.

anyway, this is retarded. how on earth can this shit cost this lady $20,000+ AFTER insurance?!?!

http://www.azcentral.com/community/ahwatukee/articles/2012/08/31/20120831scorpion-sting-leaves-woman-big-bill.html


Scorpion sting leaves Ahwatukee woman with a big bill

by Ken Alltucker - Sept. 4, 2012 11:50 AM
The Republic | azcentral.com

Marcie Edmonds was tearing open a box of air-conditioner filters in her garage last June when she felt a sharp sting in her abdomen.

The 52-year-old Ahwatukee Foothills woman had never felt a scorpion sting before that day. She had no intention of seeking medical help, but within an hour of the sting, Edmonds' mild tingling sensation worsened with throat tightness, blurry vision, darting eyes and tense muscles. She could not walk and had trouble breathing.

Scorpion anti-venom has stinging cost


With the help of a friend, she called Poison Control and was advised to go to the nearest hospital that had scorpion antivenom, Chandler Regional Medical Center. At the hospital, an emergency room doctor told her about the antivenom, called Anascorp, that could quickly relieve her symptoms. Edmonds said the physician never talked with her about the cost of the drug or treatment alternatives.

Her symptoms subsided after she received two doses of the drug Anascorp through an IV, and she was discharged from the hospital in about three hours.

Weeks later, she received a bill for $83,046 from Chandler Regional Medical Center. The hospital, owned by Dignity Health, charged her $39,652 per dose of Anascorp.

The Arizona Republic reported last year about the pricey markup Arizona hospitals were charging for the antivenom made in Mexico. Pharmacies in Mexico charge about $100 per dose.

After the Food and Drug Administration approved the drug last year, Tennessee-based Rare Disease Therapeutics sold the drug to a distributor for $3,500 per dose. The distributor charged hospitals about $3,780 per dose.

The Republic polled several hospitals in November, finding that hospital charges for the serum ranged from $7,900 to $12,467 per vial. At the time, Chandler Regional declined to tell The Republic how much it charged for Anascorp.

Edmonds' insurer, Humana, has paid Chandler Regional $57,509 for the bill. The hospital has asked Edmonds for the balance of $25,537.

Chandler Regional issued a statement indicating that Edmonds' charges represented the out-of-network costs for her treatment. Chandler Regional is not part of Humana's network, so she was charged the hospital's full billing rate.

"We believe no one should delay seeking needed medical care because they lack insurance or have high medical costs," the hospital's statement said.

Edmonds, who is a counselor, knows the intricacies of health-care billing, but she believes the hospital's wholesale charges should be explained to the public.

She was astonished to see the amount she was charged. "Everyone I talk to says, 'You've got to be kidding,' " when she explains her bill.

locachica73
09-05-2012, 05:19 PM
I saw that, my company has been doing a bunch of construction at that hospital. Gotta make money for that new wing somehow.

Somewhat Damaged
09-05-2012, 06:08 PM
She really should take better care not to get stung by scorpions.

TomAz
09-11-2012, 08:21 PM
RICHARD CARMONA FOR SENATE

He's in a dead heat with Jeff Flake right now. Flake is a bizarro-world tea party mormon. Carmona is a moderate who has broad bipartisan support - he was Bush2's Surgeon General. Puerto Rican heritage, born in the Bronx, dropped out of high school, then wound up getting his GED, college degree, and MD. His time as Surgeon General was not pleasant:


On July 10, 2007, Carmona, along with former Surgeons General C. Everett Koop and David Satcher, testified before the United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform about political and ideological interference with the Surgeon General's mission. Carmona accused the Bush Administration of preventing him from speaking out on certain public health issues such as embryonic stem cell research, global climate change, emergency contraception, and abstinence-only sex education, where the Administration's political stance conflicted with scientific and medical opinion.

Carmona also testified that the Bush Administration had attempted for years to "water down" his report on the dangers of secondhand smoke and pressured him not to testify in the tobacco industry's racketeering trial: "Anything that doesn't fit into the political appointees' ideological, theological or political agenda is ignored, marginalized or simply buried." According to Carmona, he was even ordered not to attend the Special Olympics because the event was sponsored by the Kennedy family, and was told to mention President Bush three times on every page of his speeches. The Washington Post subsequently identified William R. Steiger as the Bush Administration official who had blocked release of Carmona's report on global health because it conflicted with the Administration's political priorities.

Reuters reported that Carmona's predecessors as Surgeon General had acknowledged the high level of political interference he experienced, saying: "We have never seen it as partisan, as malicious, as vindictive, as mean-spirited as it is today, and you clearly have worse than anyone's had."


You know the Mormon inbreds will rally their pasty white Borg to generate a lot of votes for Flake, whose ancestors have been bossing people around in Arizona for 100 years (the town of Snowflake, Az, is named for his family). It is time to show the country that Arizona is not ruled exclusively by the freaks, that we have a majority of sensible people who will vote in a thoughtful, balanced man over an extremist fucktard. Carmona's record speaks for itself, all we have to do is point it out to our friends and coworkers and neighbors. Some of them might be swayed by the facts.

Somewhat Damaged
09-11-2012, 09:42 PM
He's got my vote.

TomAz
09-12-2012, 04:54 AM
I am asking for more than your vote, Rick. I am asking that you become active. All that's required is telling people the facts.


Flake was educated at Brigham Young University and was a Mormon missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to South Africa in the early 1980s. He worked in the public affairs sector after college and served as Executive Director of the Foundation for Democracy in Namibia and Executive Director of the Goldwater Institute before entering the House of Representatives. He lobbied against economic sanctions on South Africa's apartheid regime in the 1980s.


In his campaign in 2000, Flake had pledged to serve no more than three terms in Congress, leaving no later than January 2007, but in early 2005, shortly after being elected for a third time, Flake announced that he had changed his mind and would in fact run for re-election in 2006. "It was a mistake to limit my own terms," Flake said


one of eight House members to receive a 100% approval rating from the American Conservative Union. Flake voted against the Troubled Asset Relief Program ("TARP")


In December 2010, Flake was one of fifteen Republican House members to vote in favor of repealing the United States military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" ban on openly gay service members. Flake had voted to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban same-sex marriage with a Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004 and 2006.

In contrast, Dr Carmona:


Throughout my time as U.S. Surgeon General, I remained steadfast in my belief that every woman should have access to comprehensive health care, including retaining access to reproductive health care options and FDA-approved prescription contraceptives.

As a medical doctor, I know that a woman’s access and choice of reproductive health care options is an intensely personal decision left best decided by a woman and her physician. I also believe it is important to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies in the United States through supporting medically-accurate, comprehensive sex education for our kids, taking steps to prevent teen pregnancy and providing access to pre-natal care for all women.



Arizona’s education system routinely ranks near the bottom of the nation. That’s unforgivable, and we need to fix it. In recent years, the political extremists who control Arizona’s legislature have cut more than $1 billion from our schools and they fail to see that their actions will have crippling economic consequences for our future. We need to ensure that our students are prepared to lead the world in innovation, research, and technology. It’s time we reset our priorities and ensure that education remains at the top. That starts with protecting and reinvesting in our public schools.


We need to overhaul our immigration laws and support a comprehensive approach that is practical, tough and fair. That means securing the border, cracking down on drug and human smuggling, punishing companies who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and eliminating a nefarious labor market that exploits those living in the shadows of our society. We should also pass the DREAM Act that creates a path to legalization for children, who, through no fault of their own, were brought into this country at a young age, have worked hard and are either going to college or have enlisted in the military.

http://www.carmonaforarizona.com/get-involved/volunteer

amyzzz
09-12-2012, 06:59 AM
Thanks for the fact tidbits, Tom. I'm on Carmona's Facebook page at least.

amyzzz
09-20-2012, 04:54 PM
The Master and Samara are playing in theatres this weekend! Samsara has actually already been playing the Valley Art this week, but I just found out.

Mr. Dylanja
09-20-2012, 04:56 PM
I saw Samsara last Saturday, and it really is amazing.

Mr. Dylanja
09-20-2012, 05:04 PM
And I'll also add that the moon looked really cool over Mezzza on Tuesday.

locachica73
09-20-2012, 07:11 PM
So it's perfect patio weather and I need an escape, if anyone is interested there is a group of us getting together in Tempe tomorrow for happy hour. Macayo's in Tempe. I will probably be there around 3:30 or 4:00, if anyone else wants to come hang out please do. :)

NachoCat
09-21-2012, 07:48 AM
And I'll also add that the moon looked really cool over Mezzza on Tuesday.


All this week its been super rad. Ive noticed it at least 3 times. Super low crescent moon almost an orange color.

downingthief
09-21-2012, 02:12 PM
Hey, all. My office is looking for a front desk receptionist/clerical person. If anyone is looking for a job in that area, or knows anyone, hit me up. We are located in downtown Scottsdale.

westcoastpirate
09-21-2012, 02:42 PM
Hey, all. My office is looking for a front desk receptionist/clerical person. If anyone is looking for a job in that area, or knows anyone, hit me up. We are located in downtown Scottsdale.

From the Open Letters to Specific Organizations thread...


haha

Dear Common Sense:

Because I am too fucking nice and couldn't quit prior to my coworker taking her long planned 2.5 week vacation. Being nice is a bitch! But I am looking so if you know anyone who needs some office help, hook a girl up!

Sincerely,
Nice girls finish last

TomAz
09-27-2012, 01:16 PM
September 26, 2012
Small-Town Politics, All-Out War


By TAMARA AUDI

QUARTZSITE, Ariz.—This tiny desert outpost is known for 70-degree winters, an annual gem show that draws thousands of visitors, and a nudist bookstore owner who conducts business in little more than flip-flops and a straw hat.

But these days, the town's most extraordinary feature is its politics.

For months, officials in Quartzsite—which lies about halfway between Phoenix and Palm Springs, Calif., on Interstate 10—have so far refused to allow the mayor-elect to take office because he owes the town $2,200 in attorney's fees.

In late August, the town manager put the police chief on paid administrative leave pending an investigation over allegations involving a time sheet. A few days later, the town council suspended the town manager for undisclosed reasons—after the town's attorney filed a restraining order against the town council to stop it meeting.

The town manager said she couldn't comment on her suspension because "no one gave me a reason."

In September, the assistant town manager fired the police chief without consulting the town council, according to other town officials. Days later, the interim town manager reversed the chief's firing, and suspended the assistant town manager pending an investigation into an undisclosed matter. The assistant manager couldn't be reached for comment. On Tuesday, the town council voted to put the police chief back on the job.

"We're calling this the Twilight Zone in Quartzsite," said Ed Foster, the elected, but so far unseated, mayor who has filed a complaint in superior court to force the town to install him. Mr. Foster, 70 years old, began humming the music from the television show, and said, "Every day we get up and ask, 'What's going to happen today?'"

On Tuesday night, Mr. Foster's lawyer said an attorney hired by the town called to discuss a potential settlement deal that would include seating Mr. Foster as mayor. The deal hasn't been finalized yet, said his lawyer, Julie LaBenz. If a deal isn't reached, she said Mr. Foster will move ahead with a court hearing due next week.

The interim town manager, Laura Bruno, said Wednesday a lawyer for the town briefed the town council in closed session about Mr. Foster's case. Ms. Bruno said the council made no decision on a settlement deal, and would still have to vote to seat Mr. Foster. She said the intent of the attorney was "to open a line of communication with Mr. Foster's attorney."

The turmoil caught the attention of state and federal officials. The Arizona Department of Public Safety has investigated corruption complaints against town officials four times in the past two years and recently began a fifth probe of the police chief over the alleged false filing of a time sheet, a Department of Public Safety spokesman said. The chief, Jeff Gilbert, has denied any wrongdoing.

The attorney for La Paz County, which includes Quartzsite, said he asked the Federal Bureau of Investigation to investigate town officials for possible corruption. An FBI spokesman said he couldn't confirm or deny any probe.

The unrest boils down to a struggle between two groups: on one side, some current and former town leaders who say they are being targeted by activists who oppose development; on the other side, activists and the mayor-elect who claim city officials are hiding corruption and targeting them for criticizing town leaders. In interviews, the officials have denied the accusations.

The standoff has divided the town and set its residents on edge. "You just feel it's a powder keg in Quartzsite, and something is going to set it off," said Shelly Baker, recorder for La Paz County.

Isolated on the western edge of Arizona, Quartzsite was once a mining area and way station for travelers, later becoming popular with retirees for its mild winters. Its population jumps to 100,000 in the winter from 3,500 the rest of the year.

Political intrigue in the town dates back to at least 1995, when the then-mayor was convicted of hiring a hit man to try to kill his political rival. His conviction was overturned, and he was back in office six months later.

In 2005, Mr. Foster, a retired engineer for gum-maker Wrigley, moved to Quartzsite from Chicago and successfully ran for mayor in 2010 on a platform of financial transparency.

After he was elected, Mr. Foster asked state police to investigate the city's police chief, saying he improperly used vacation time. Mr. Gilbert countered by asking state officials to investigate Mr. Foster and his allies for allegedly manufacturing evidence against him. Town residents and former police employees have accused Mr. Gilbert of harassing, firing or arresting them due to their political views. Mr. Gilbert denies that and calls the accusations "a conspiracy against me" by some town officials and disgruntled employees who want to take control of the police department.

The state's attorney general has declined to prosecute anyone in Quartzsite as a result of state investigations because of insufficient evidence, a spokeswoman for the office said.

Last year, an ally of Mr. Foster's, Jennifer Jones, was arrested by Mr. Gilbert while speaking during a raucous town council meeting. Ms. Jones, who owns Furry Friends Pet Spa, has been arrested five times since she began running for town council in 2010. All of the charges were eventually dropped.

Ms. Jones, who runs a newspaper and website critical of the town and the police chief, said she is "livid" that the chief has been reinstated. "We feel betrayed," said Ms. Jones, who is suing the police chief and other town officials in federal court over her arrests. Ms. Jones says the chief harassed her and her husband because they were critical of him and his political allies. The chief denies the allegations and says his arrests of Ms. Jones and her husband had nothing to do with politics.

Opponents unseated Mr. Foster in a 2011 recall election. He fought the recall in court, lost and was ordered to pay the town $2,200 in attorney fees. He refused to pay.

This year, Mr. Foster ran a new campaign and was elected mayor in June. Town officials said he couldn't take office due to a local ordinance that bars anyone owing the town money from office. He says he shouldn't have to pay, as the town attorney shouldn't have appeared in court against him, and the ordinance exceeds state requirements. The attorney, who officials say is on sick leave, couldn't be reached for comment.

Some in Quartzsite say they see an end to the unrest. "Our town council is coming together and is really trying to work as a team to move things forward," said Ms. Bruno, the interim town manager.

Mr. Foster said even if he is seated, he will sue the town for its appointment of a chair and vice chair for council meetings, which he says weakens his power. "This fight's not over," he said Tuesday. The interim manager said the town has the right to appoint them.

Business owners just want the fighting to end before the busy winter season. "It's an embarrassment to our town," said Paul Winer, the nudist owner of Reader's Oasis bookstore.

—James Oberman contributed to this article.
Write to Tamara Audi at tammy.audi@wsj.com

chairmenmeow47
09-27-2012, 02:27 PM
hahahha, i spent the night on a bench in the police station there waiting for my parents. so close to the border, fucker.

Mr. Dylanja
09-28-2012, 12:16 PM
I can't get a link to work but this just happened...

Fox News Just Showed a Man Shoot Himself in the Head Outside of Phoenix on Live TV (Video)

By Matthew Hendley

A car chase that started in Phoenix just ended with the man shooting himself in the head, which was broadcast live on Fox News.The man had apparently stolen a car before heading west, and as you... More >>


Phoenixnewtimes.com

Mr. Dylanja
09-28-2012, 12:20 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02354/Car_Chase_Suicide__2354753b.jpg

TomAz
09-28-2012, 12:25 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/fox-news-airs-footage-man-shooting-head/story?id=17351162

Miroir Noir
09-28-2012, 01:07 PM
I noticed that the other cable news networks didn't have this problem, likely because they concluded that an in-progress car chase in Phoenix, Arizona, is not a matter of national importance.

TomAz
09-28-2012, 01:08 PM
They were probably hoping the guy was an illegal.

Miroir Noir
09-28-2012, 01:10 PM
Lol. Every time I read the comments threads for crime stories in local media sources, one of the first comments from the proletariat is inevitably "I bet the perp was an illegal immigrant."

chairmenmeow47
10-03-2012, 10:05 PM
noooooo!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/arts/design/frank-lloyd-wright-house-in-phoenix-faces-bulldozers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=2&

captncrzy
10-04-2012, 08:16 AM
Anyone want to go watch the Cardinals game with us somewhere downtown?

captncrzy
10-04-2012, 09:46 AM
Ok, we're going to Angels Trumpet Ale House after werk if anyone wants to join. I've been wanting to go there for a minute.

faxman75
10-04-2012, 11:52 AM
Damn school! I would have joined you all.

captncrzy
10-04-2012, 12:27 PM
Ditch day!

TomAz
10-04-2012, 12:29 PM
how bout downtown fountain hills

captncrzy
10-04-2012, 12:47 PM
I can't afford the gas to get down there.

westcoastpirate
10-06-2012, 07:24 PM
Hey TomAz, thought you might be interested in this:

http://www.carmonaforarizona.com/early-vote

stinkbutt
10-06-2012, 08:06 PM
noooooo!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/arts/design/frank-lloyd-wright-house-in-phoenix-faces-bulldozers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=2&

Sad thing is that they offered 2,050,000 that the guys declined because they were asking 2,200,000. Now with all the media attention they can essentially hold the thing ransom and ask whatever they damn well please.

TomAz
10-07-2012, 04:57 PM
Hey TomAz, thought you might be interested in this:

http://www.carmonaforarizona.com/early-vote

Yeah, I'm gonna be out of town though.

westcoastpirate
10-07-2012, 07:47 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna be out of town though.

Rough!

LickTheLizzard
10-09-2012, 10:59 AM
I put this in the Shows thread already, but Jimmy Eat World is playing the Carmona Rally tomorrow.

ods..
10-09-2012, 11:11 AM
anybody have an extra ticket to the weeknd show tomorrow? they're sold out

Miroir Noir
10-11-2012, 07:38 AM
RICHARD CARMONA FOR SENATE

He's in a dead heat with Jeff Flake right now. Flake is a bizarro-world tea party mormon. Carmona is a moderate who has broad bipartisan support - he was Bush2's Surgeon General. Puerto Rican heritage, born in the Bronx, dropped out of high school, then wound up getting his GED, college degree, and MD. His time as Surgeon General was not pleasant:



You know the Mormon inbreds will rally their pasty white Borg to generate a lot of votes for Flake, whose ancestors have been bossing people around in Arizona for 100 years (the town of Snowflake, Az, is named for his family). It is time to show the country that Arizona is not ruled exclusively by the freaks, that we have a majority of sensible people who will vote in a thoughtful, balanced man over an extremist fucktard. Carmona's record speaks for itself, all we have to do is point it out to our friends and coworkers and neighbors. Some of them might be swayed by the facts.

So this race has really tightened, and Flake is now up with a nuclear-level ad in response:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4k8sMJdIhJg

It would help if the ad, you know, provided an explanation as to what Carmona was allegedly so upset about, but there you have it: the Republicans are panicking and this is a race, y'all.

LickTheLizzard
10-11-2012, 10:30 AM
They are absolutely panicking! They are paying to put attack adds on my Facebook and Twitter feed. This is going to be an exciting race.

amyzzz
10-11-2012, 10:52 AM
Carmona has my vote and possibly my husband's.

captncrzy
10-11-2012, 10:59 AM
I hate Jeff Flake. He looks like what I picture Satan to look like when he comes on over for the apocolypse.

chairmenmeow47
10-24-2012, 09:10 PM
so does anyone want to see demetri martin with me downtown friday? 9:45pm showing, ticket is free. full-disclosure, you will be a backup plan as i invited a date, but haven't heard anything yet. i have a feeling he will say no though, which is why i'm asking.

Somewhat Damaged
11-02-2012, 11:56 AM
Put my early voting ballot in the mail today. Found this helpful website to inform my decision on the propositions:

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Arizona_2012_ballot_measures

amyzzz
11-02-2012, 12:02 PM
Who is voting on election day like me?

LickTheLizzard
11-02-2012, 12:10 PM
I have never voted in person.

amyzzz
11-02-2012, 12:14 PM
So two noes.