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locachica73
02-16-2009, 10:30 AM
I was watching something from last night off my DVR and they said that Terry Porter was going to be fired in the morning which would have been today. Did that happen?

Aurgasm
02-16-2009, 10:33 AM
^yes

locachica73
02-16-2009, 10:34 AM
who is replacing him. I know I could probably go to NBA.com but my computer seems to be stuck on coachella message board, weird.

TommyboyUNM
02-16-2009, 10:35 AM
Porter got the axe this morning, yeah. Alvin Gentry replaced him, but probably just in the interim.

TomAz
02-16-2009, 11:14 AM
I was watching something from last night off my DVR and they said that Terry Porter was going to be fired in the morning which would have been today. Did that happen?

You should read the NBA thread where this was discussed days ago.

TomAz
02-16-2009, 11:16 AM
I participated.

locachica73
02-16-2009, 11:18 AM
There is too much angry boy testosterone in the NBA thread, and I hate having to scroll through all the Laker talk.

TomAz
02-16-2009, 11:33 AM
ok I just added two long lists.

faxman75
02-16-2009, 02:33 PM
Just saw that Calexico is playing at the Orpheum Theater in Flagstaff on Saturday, April 11th. Maybe I should've posted this in the Flagstaff thread. :)


I'll keep an eye out for the Holbrook, Yuma and Kingman show announcements too.

I wonder if I can hit that Calexico show on the way back from Vegas hahahaha

I went to the new White Sox spring training facility today at Camelback Ranch.

Here are some photo's. Though this isn't the Glendale thread.....

http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/faxman75/2009%20CWS%20Spring%20Training/

mountmccabe
02-16-2009, 03:38 PM
Geez, the Rythym Room is getting some good shows. Just saw that Marnie Stern is playing there on March 24th and tix are only $10. I'm totally going. And they have Fujiya and Myagi or however you spell it on the 2nd.

I really wanna go to both.




Annuals are playing the Rhythm Room Wed
Cursive is there March 15th
Wow...Viva Voce is playing there March 16th

I don't know that I am up for Annuals but maybe. Chances would be higher if they had better openers.

I might be done with seeing Cursive - I used to really like the albums but they have always slightly disappointed me live, now I am a little blah on the albums - but that show is a possibility.

I would really like to see Viva Voce again. A quick check says that they've been working on a new album for a while which is good. I've seen them I think three times since Get Yer Blood Sucked Out arrived and with such a packed month that might shy me away from seeing them.

mountmccabe
02-16-2009, 03:50 PM
This is the list I'm working from.

Mar 2 - Fujiya & Miyagi @ Rhythm Room
Mar 10 - No Age/The Goat @ Modified
Mar 12 - Neil Halstead (Slowdive/Mojave 3) @ Rhythm Room
Mar 15 - Cursive/Ladyfinger @ Rhythm Room
Mar 16 - Wavves, Abe Vigoda @ Phix Gallery
Mar 16 - SxStateside 1: Viva Voce, the Blakes, more @ Rhythm Room
Mar 23 - the Mae Shi/Pre @ Trunk Space
Mar 24 - SxStateside 2: Marnie Stern, Starfucker, more @ Rhythm Room
Apr 3 - Bonnie 'Prince' Billy @ Modified
Apr 4 - Calexico @ Heritage Square
Apr 14 - Ariel Pink/Vivian Girls @ Modified

April has other shows, too, such as Great Lakes Swimmers, Vetiver, Conor Oberst, ones I'll miss for Coachella and more.

captncrzy
02-16-2009, 06:09 PM
john, .....why is there a gay cowboy in your avatar?

In other news, my birthday is Friday, and I'm guessing we will end up, at some point in the evening, at the Bikini. If anyone's headed that way, come by and say "Heeeeaaaayyyyyy"

Somewhat Damaged
02-16-2009, 07:03 PM
Mark, is that Dom DeLuise in your avatar?

mountmccabe
02-16-2009, 07:45 PM
john, .....why is there a gay cowboy in your avatar?

It is from the Scottsdale Tourism photo Tom posted a little bit ago.



In other news, my birthday is Friday, and I'm guessing we will end up, at some point in the evening, at the Bikini. If anyone's headed that way, come by and say "Heeeeaaaayyyyyy"

Is "Woohooo!!" acceptable?

faxman75
02-16-2009, 10:01 PM
Mark, is that Dom DeLuise in your avatar?

Apparently i've morphed. I used to hear John Belushi all the time growing up.

I would like to check out shows at modified. I've never been there but I haven't figured out what band to take a chance on yet. I'm going to listen to the Vivian Girls for the first time tomorrow. If I like it I will go.

captncrzy
02-17-2009, 08:07 AM
It is from the Scottsdale Tourism photo Tom posted a little bit ago.




Is "Woohooo!!" acceptable?

How about "He-He-Helloooo!"

Somewhat Damaged
02-17-2009, 11:01 AM
Apparently i've morphed. I used to hear John Belushi all the time growing up.
http://coachella.com/forum/image.php?u=74&dateline=1234823388&type=thumb ~ ~http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/Nimhster/4261-1.jpg

The resemblance is uncanny! Right down to the little hat. Just need to put shades on Dom and you two would be indistinguishable.

Ivy & Sean: bad news for tomorrow, I've got to spend the day at my company's traffic department so I won't be able to make it to Honeybears after all. :( Even worse, I have to be there at 6:30, which means I'll have to wake up at 5. Ugh. At least I get to go home as soon as we're done (which should be no later than 1:30). Perhaps another time.

downingthief
02-17-2009, 11:25 AM
http://coachella.com/forum/image.php?u=74&dateline=1234823388&type=thumb ~ ~http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/Nimhster/4261-1.jpg

The resemblance is uncanny! Right down to the little hat. Just need to put shades on Dom and you two would be indistinguishable.

Ivy & Sean: bad news for tomorrow, I've got to spend the day at my company's traffic department so I won't be able to make it to Honeybears after all. :( Even worse, I have to be there at 6:30, which means I'll have to wake up at 5. Ugh. At least I get to go home as soon as we're done (which should be no later than 1:30). Perhaps another time.

Bummer! Definitely need to get it set up again.

chairmenmeow47
02-17-2009, 01:38 PM
with the way work has been going today, it's probably better for me too not to lunch tomorrow. we'll do it again though :)

and loca, aj, are we a go for hard or not? just curious :)

downingthief
02-17-2009, 01:41 PM
with the way work has been going today, it's probably better for me too not to lunch tomorrow. we'll do it again though :)


Double bummer!

locachica73
02-17-2009, 01:42 PM
Yes as far as I know we are a go. Plan is to leave PHX around 2, I will probably get off work around noon (if I decide to go at all lol), get AJ or meet him somewhere, get you at 2 and take off if that works. Get to LA around 8ish, meet up with everyone wherever that might be and go from there. I think we are spending Friday night in LA and then heading down to San Diego Saturday. Then AJ and I will drive back up from San Diego on Sunday late afternoon to get you and drive back to PHX. Sound cool?

captncrzy
02-17-2009, 01:47 PM
Dang. Ah well. Ricks OOT next week, and I'm OOT the week after.

chairmenmeow47
02-17-2009, 01:50 PM
sounds good to me :) i just want to make sure we are for sure go for launch.

and we'll make lunch happen soon enough!

locachica73
02-17-2009, 02:05 PM
Yes we are and I am looking forward to it quite a bit. I am going to grab a few party favors from my brothers friends. It should be a good time. :)

sin213
02-18-2009, 09:41 AM
http://coachella.com/forum/image.php?u=74&dateline=1234823388&type=thumb ~ ~http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i15/Nimhster/4261-1.jpg

The resemblance is uncanny! Right down to the little hat. Just need to put shades on Dom and you two would be indistinguishable.


LMAO! WOW! :lool

PC-2 Violence
02-18-2009, 11:27 AM
Yes as far as I know we are a go. Plan is to leave PHX around 2, I will probably get off work around noon (if I decide to go at all lol), get AJ or meet him somewhere, get you at 2 and take off if that works. Get to LA around 8ish, meet up with everyone wherever that might be and go from there. I think we are spending Friday night in LA and then heading down to San Diego Saturday. Then AJ and I will drive back up from San Diego on Sunday late afternoon to get you and drive back to PHX. Sound cool?

I am down with that for sure. Sorry I have not been around, been super fucking busy with last weekend and now I am grinding away at the 9-5. PM me any more details and let me know if anyone says anything about tickets.

locachica73
02-18-2009, 11:33 AM
OK will do. I am going to have to put off getting my ticket but I am thinking as it gets closer I might be able to find a discounted one on ebay or something. I may have to have my sister do some snooping, she is better at that then I am.

PC-2 Violence
02-18-2009, 11:52 AM
OK will do. I am going to have to put off getting my ticket but I am thinking as it gets closer I might be able to find a discounted one on ebay or something. I may have to have my sister do some snooping, she is better at that then I am.

The longer we put it off the more expensive the ticket will be if we have to buy it from the vendor.

locachica73
02-18-2009, 12:21 PM
I know, I just don't have the cash right now. Luckily my bonus comes that week so i will have some extra cash.

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2009, 03:12 PM
does your camera have various settings? i used to have that problem with my kodak until i played with the settings. it was either the "sports" (as in pictures of things that are moving) or "nighttime" setting that seemed to work best for shows. i had to play around with mein before i got the feel for it.

i'm bummed to hear that the rhythm room has drinking & non drinking areas. i still want to go there sometime, they always talk about it on those lowdown blues on npr on sundays.

and z-trip tonight at bar smith. i'm contemplating going, but i have a feeling i'll be too drunk after lost to go anywhere, lol.

Mr. Dylanja
02-18-2009, 04:35 PM
and z-trip tonight at bar smith. i'm contemplating going, but i have a feeling i'll be too drunk after lost to go anywhere, lol.

What time does his set start and how much is it, Ivy?

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2009, 04:47 PM
this is all i know and i've heard rumours it's sold out, but nothing for sure. i will post when i get home if i hear anything:

http://www.wantickets.com/images/event/z-trip-final.jpg

sin213
02-18-2009, 05:46 PM
Incidentally, is anyone here good with cameras? I keep having problems with mine. Everyone tells me to not use the flash, but I always seem to get blurry pictures when I do that, for some reason. Whereas a flash doesn't give me the popping colors and sharp lines I want. Any suggestions?


does your camera have various settings? i used to have that problem with my kodak until i played with the settings. it was either the "sports" (as in pictures of things that are moving) or "nighttime" setting that seemed to work best for shows. i had to play around with mein before i got the feel for it.

yeah, it's the motion that is blurring up your pictures gonshman. so it was probably your sports setting, ivy, that worked best.

flash isn't necessary because there is plenty of light on stage. you only need to use flash to cast light onto your subject. the reason you wouldn't use flash at a show is because, like you stated gonsh, it lowers the contrast of the colors and sometimes when you use flash all you can see is the crowd.

jitter control on a camera can help a lot too, because a lot of the time when you zoom, most of the motion is coming from your hand. that in conjunction with the motion on stage can produce really blurry pics.

mountmccabe
02-18-2009, 05:48 PM
Venues with a capacity of 1000 or less have to either (a) be dry, (b) be 21+ only or (c) have a physical barrier between the bar area and the under 21 area.

This is why that barrier is up for All Ages/18+ shows at the Rhythm Room, the Clubhouse, the Brickhouse, etc. The latter two venues have more of a natural dividing spot so it is less annoying there.

Where they put the fence - at all the venues, really, but especially at the Rhythm Room - depends on what age mix of a crowd they're expecting. I've seen shows where the entire front section was for under 21ers and drinkers could only be at the bar. I've also seen shows where there's just a narrow strip on the side that's set up for under 21.

It's easy to complain about but just be glad the show isn't 21+; I've seen several of them at the Rhythm Room too; it's nice, being able to walk around all I want.

captncrzy
02-19-2009, 07:50 AM
Venues with a capacity of 1000 or less have to either (a) be dry, (b) be 21+ only or (c) have a physical barrier between the bar area and the under 21 area.

This is why that barrier is up for All Ages/18+ shows at the Rhythm Room, the Clubhouse, the Brickhouse, etc. The latter two venues have more of a natural dividing spot so it is less annoying there.

Where they put the fence - at all the venues, really, but especially at the Rhythm Room - depends on what age mix of a crowd they're expecting. I've seen shows where the entire front section was for under 21ers and drinkers could only be at the bar. I've also seen shows where there's just a narrow strip on the side that's set up for under 21.

It's easy to complain about but just be glad the show isn't 21+; I've seen several of them at the Rhythm Room too; it's nice, being able to walk around all I want.

Do you remember when Gibsons was open and the drinking section was on the second floor? It was kind of cool to be able to watch teh band from right above their heads.

chairmenmeow47
02-19-2009, 07:52 AM
mason jar had one of the worst over/under 21 seperations ever. there was like two feet by the stage you could be if you were under 21. sucked. i always hated going to pompeii/freedom before i was 21 too cause you couldn't go in the patio bar where everyone liked to hang out.

downingthief
02-19-2009, 08:12 AM
Do you remember when Gibsons was open and the drinking section was on the second floor? It was kind of cool to be able to watch teh band from right above their heads.

Oh, yeah. Forgot about that one!

downingthief
02-19-2009, 08:13 AM
mason jar had one of the worst over/under 21 seperations ever. there was like two feet by the stage you could be if you were under 21. sucked. i always hated going to pompeii/freedom before i was 21 too cause you couldn't go in the patio bar where everyone liked to hang out.

I blame Franco. Because he was a dick.

sin213
02-19-2009, 10:15 AM
anyone going to the AZ Matsuri Sat?

http://www.azmatsuri.com/

Somewhat Damaged
02-19-2009, 10:52 AM
anyone going to the AZ Matsuri Sat?

http://www.azmatsuri.com/

One of my coworkers is trying to get everybody to go. She's so fervent in her promotion of the event I suspect she's getting paid a commission based on how good attendance is. That being said, we'll see how Saturday goes. I seem to be falling ill (right in time for my trip to Jersey) and Friday night should find Jen and I getting fairly drunk (what with it being her b-day and all).

captncrzy
02-19-2009, 11:05 AM
Mah Birfday Plan:

Dinner at Carly's Bistro--7:00PM

Drinks at Bikini Lounge--8:00PM-10:30 or 11:00PM (or so)

Goth and freak watching at Tranzylvania--11:00PM on. If I stay conscious that long.


Anyone-feel free to stop by if u r bored.

chairmenmeow47
02-19-2009, 11:10 AM
i will be at snowbowl, but happy birthday :)

sin213
02-19-2009, 11:40 AM
yeah, happy bday jen!

sin213
02-19-2009, 11:43 AM
oh, btw jen, i saw someone with a AZ license plate in Vegas that said "cpcrazy".

was that you?? :D

i took a pic....i'll post later.

faxman75
02-19-2009, 05:17 PM
Happy Birthday Jen!! I will see if I can stop by bikini and say hello. I'll be the guy who looks like Dom.

happypappy420
02-19-2009, 06:09 PM
faxman,

where did you find the jane's/NIN tour dates....i have looked all over with no success!

sin213
02-19-2009, 06:19 PM
try the nin tour dates thread in music lounge

sin213
02-19-2009, 06:20 PM
or maybe this is easier...

May 24th - Sasquatch Festival, George Wa
May 25th - Amphitheater @ Clark County, Ridgefield Wa
May 28th - Cricket Wireless Pavillion, Phoenix Az
May 29th - Journal Pavillion, Albuquerque Nm
May 31st - Red Rocks Amphitheatre, Morrison Co
June 2nd - Superpages.com Center, Dallas Tx
June 3rd - Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavillion, Houston Tx
June 5th - Lakewood Amphitheatre, Atlanta Ga
June 7th - Cruzan Amphitheatre, West Palm Beach Fl
June 8th - Ford Amphitheatre, Tampa Fl
June 10th - Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre, Charlotte Nc
June 11th - Nissan Pavillion at Stone Ridge, Bristow Va
June 13th - Bonnaroo Festival, Manchester Tn (NIN only)
June 15th - Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre, St Louis Mo
June 17th - Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy Wi
June 18th - Verizon Wireless Music Center, Noblesville In
June 20th - DTE Energy Music Theatre, Detroit Mi
June 21st - Blossom Music Center, Cuyahoga Falls Oh
June 23rd - Molson Amphitheater, Toronto On
June 24th - Comcast Center, Mansfield Ma
June 26th - Nikon at Jones Beach, Wantaugh Ny
June 27th - Susquehanna Bank Center, Camden Nj
July 1st - Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountian View Ca
July 3rd- Cricket Wireless Amphitheatre, Chula Vista Ca
July 4th - Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre, Irvine Ca

of course not "confirmed" cause these aren't officially listed yet.

captncrzy
02-19-2009, 06:48 PM
oh, btw jen, i saw someone with a AZ license plate in Vegas that said "cpcrazy".

was that you?? :D

i took a pic....i'll post later.

No, but if I find them I'll kill them for stealing my ID and ruining my spotless reputation by having a personalized license plate.

sin213
02-19-2009, 06:53 PM
No, but if I find them I'll kill them for stealing my ID and ruining my spotless reputation by having a personalized license plate.

lol!

here is the pic i took on my phone...

http://members.cox.net/sin213/0217091422.jpg

sin213
02-19-2009, 07:10 PM
i put up a short review and pics of puscifer in the puscifer thread (http://www.coachella.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1039177#post1039177).

Somewhat Damaged
02-19-2009, 07:21 PM
oh, btw jen, i saw someone with a AZ license plate in Vegas that said "cpcrazy".

was that you?? :D

i took a pic....i'll post later.


lol!

here is the pic i took on my phone...

http://members.cox.net/sin213/0217091422.jpg

Liar. You said the license plate read "cpcrazy," while the license plate in the photo you took CLEARLY reads "kpcrazy." So not only are you alleging that Jennifer would be derelict in her abbreviating responsibilities by shortening "captain" to a simple "cp" (when "cptn" would be more appropriate), you are further denigrating her intelligence by suggesting that she would abbreviate captain as "kp." For shame, sin213, for shame. I thought you were a better man than that. Looks like I was wrong. :nono

Somewhat Damaged
02-19-2009, 07:27 PM
Meanwhile, the lady who sits next to me at work is more aptly described as the lady who used to sit next to me at work as of 3:15 this afternoon. Sucks for her and I feel bad for her on a human level, but on a business level, I understand why they'd terminate her. But if someone's looking for a job, now may be the time to check out the Careers portion of ADP's website.

As for NIN playing a few miles from where I live...sucks but I'm probably going to have to pass. Fever Ray in LA that very same weekend is something I can't pass up. I fucking love the Knife so much and the Fever Ray album is magnificent. As great as NIN are, I've seen them a few times already, and just in Vegas a couple months ago. Assuming Fever Ray don't get added to Coachella, who the fuck knows when I'll get to see Karin Dreijer Andersson in concert again? Need to budget more wisely than I have in the past with this tough economic environment.

sin213
02-19-2009, 07:32 PM
Liar. You said the license plate read "cpcrazy," while the license plate in the photo you took CLEARLY reads "kpcrazy." So not only are you alleging that Jennifer would be derelict in her abbreviating responsibilities by shortening "captain" to a simple "cp" (when "cptn" would be more appropriate), you are further denigrating her intelligence by suggesting that she would abbreviate captain as "kp." For shame, sin213, for shame. I thought you were a better man than that. Looks like I was wrong. :nono


lol...:sorry

ok, so it wasn't cpcrazy...but kpcrazy would still read Captain Crazy...only thing that means is there are other AZians that probably have captcrazy, cpcrazy, etc...maybe jen just stole her name from someone else.... :rolleyes

Somewhat Damaged
02-19-2009, 07:56 PM
lol...:sorry

ok, so it wasn't cpcrazy...but kpcrazy would still read Captain Crazy...only thing that means is there are other AZians that probably have captcrazy, cpcrazy, etc...maybe jen just stole her name from someone else.... :rolleyes

No, clearly that other person is attempting to ride Jen's coattails to whatever degree of success he (or she) deems suitable for him/herself.

Oh, and not to be Professor Grammar, but the proper term for residents of Arizona is "Arizonans." As such, the most appropriate abbreviation of the term would be "AZans." While "AZians" is mildly appealing visually, it bears too striking a similarity to "Asians." I don't know about you, but if anybody mistook me for an Asian, I would rip their fucking testicles out.

Mr. Dylanja
02-19-2009, 08:04 PM
Rick, you're fucking ruthless :thu

sin213
02-19-2009, 08:31 PM
lol...azian prick.

http://www.angrypenis.org/BlogPictures/SecretsOfLife/ChineseBuckTeeth/BuckTeeth.jpg

captncrzy
02-19-2009, 08:32 PM
Rick, you're fucking ruthless :thu

Try living with him. Srsly.

karma_guy
02-19-2009, 08:44 PM
can i support this thread AND the tucson thread?

chairmenmeow47
02-19-2009, 09:11 PM
that's only a few days before my birthday, i should make this happen :)

happypappy420
02-19-2009, 10:00 PM
Myst is 21+

TomAz
02-19-2009, 10:32 PM
J - happy birthday!!!

TomAz
02-19-2009, 10:35 PM
also I can't believe none of you phx fucktards made Jennifer a "WISH CAPN CRAZY A HAPPY BIRTHDAY BITCHEZZZ" thread. I'd've done it but I'm out of town and busy with crap.

Hang your head in shame, Phoenix Thread.

captncrzy
02-20-2009, 05:56 AM
Thanks Tom.

chairmenmeow47
02-20-2009, 06:42 AM
i thought her birthday was today?

captncrzy
02-20-2009, 07:28 AM
It is. Tom is a planner.

happypappy420
02-20-2009, 05:52 PM
Rage singer to march against Arpaio

Zach de la Rocha of Rage Against the Machine, among the more politically outspoken bands in alternative rock, is coming to Phoenix to join a march denouncing Sheriff Joe Arpaio's "systematic persecution" of migrants and Latinos.

March to Stop the Hate begins at 9 a.m. Saturday, Feb. 28, at 300 E. Indian School Road, Phoenix.

Pablo Alvarado, director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network has issued a statement saying, "Recently, the nation witnessed the ritual humiliation of migrants in a spectacle evocative of some of the most horrific episodes of human history. People across the country are outraged at the shameful violations of human rights perpetrated by the Maricopa County Sheriffs and they are being moved to action."

Alvarado is referring to the segregation of the county jail and the parading of undocumented migrants shackled in a chain-gang through Tent City.

De la Rocha says, "To witness what is happening in Arizona and remain neutral is to be implicated in human rights violations that are occurring right here on U.S. soil against migrants. History will not be kind to Joe Arpaio. He will be remembered with other infamous sheriffs like Bull Connor who subjugated and terrorized communities for shortsighted political gain. I hope everyone will join me in protesting Sheriff Joe."

More details can be found at www.ndlon.org.

faxman75
02-20-2009, 06:00 PM
Nice, i'm going to attend this and take pictures.

TomAz
02-20-2009, 07:23 PM
did you all see this?


Arizona Game and Fish Department officials captured, collared and released the first jaguar found in Arizona borders Wednesday.

The 118-pound male cat was found in a lug hold snare set out by department officials and fitted with a satellite-tracking collar and released.

Terry Johnson, Endangered Species Specialist at the Arizona Game and Fish Department, said the jaguar was confirmed by his spotted pattern to be Macho B, a jaguar that has been photographed by trail cameras for about 13 years.

Macho B was first photographed at about two to three years old, which makes him currently near 16 years old, Johnson said. Macho B is the oldest documented wild jaguar in the world.

Despite his age, Johnson said Macho B “looks in darn fine condition” and is nearly at the average weight of male jaguars with good muscular tone.

Since 1971, only six jaguars have been documented in the U.S. In the past 120 years, less than 70 of these animals have been documented.

The department unsuccessfully attempted to collar a jaguar ten years ago, and since then have developed rules for collaring captured jaguars.

The rules call for sedation of the animal while in captivity, observation for a minimum of six hours, and then release back into the wild.

Since jaguar presence became known in border states, the Endangered Species Act extended protection to U.S. jaguars in 1997.

It is unknown whether the jaguar is native to Arizona or Mexico, but Johnson said the collar has a special alert signal if Macho B crosses the border.

The one pound and 12 ounce collar, which was donated by North Star Science and Technologies, will provide location points every three hours for the incredibly rare feline, according to Johnson.

“We have absolutely no firm information on how jaguars use land in the U.S.,” he said. “The collar will help verify or refute all speculations on the jaguar's habits.”

Bill Van Pelt, Program Manager at the Arizona Game and Fish Department, said, compared to a mountain lions, jaguars are more robust, “kind of like a wrestler.”

According to Van Pelt, a loose translation of the name jaguar from Native American dialects is “the predator that kills in one jump.”

Historically, jaguar territory extended as far north as the Grand Canyon, Van Pelt said. They currently live predominantly in Mexico and South and Central America.

Jaguars are the third largest feline in the world, after lions and tigers, and the only feline on the Western Hemisphere that roars.


http://www.azcentral.com/i/sized/F/5/C/e298/j350/PHP499EF12CE4C5F.jpg

Mr. Dylanja
02-20-2009, 07:24 PM
I got this email today, where's the pic?

Aurgasm
02-21-2009, 10:59 AM
go meet Lucero:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2009/02/07/20090207jaguar0207.html


ps. Tucson>Phx.

hehe

TOOLRAGE
02-21-2009, 11:34 AM
Rage singer to march against Arpaio

Zach de la Rocha of Rage Against the Machine, among the more politically outspoken bands in alternative rock, is coming to Phoenix to join a march denouncing Sheriff Joe Arpaio's "systematic persecution" of migrants and Latinos.

March to Stop the Hate begins at 9 a.m. Saturday, Feb. 28, at 300 E. Indian School Road, Phoenix.

Pablo Alvarado, director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network has issued a statement saying, "Recently, the nation witnessed the ritual humiliation of migrants in a spectacle evocative of some of the most horrific episodes of human history. People across the country are outraged at the shameful violations of human rights perpetrated by the Maricopa County Sheriffs and they are being moved to action."

Alvarado is referring to the segregation of the county jail and the parading of undocumented migrants shackled in a chain-gang through Tent City.

De la Rocha says, "To witness what is happening in Arizona and remain neutral is to be implicated in human rights violations that are occurring right here on U.S. soil against migrants. History will not be kind to Joe Arpaio. He will be remembered with other infamous sheriffs like Bull Connor who subjugated and terrorized communities for shortsighted political gain. I hope everyone will join me in protesting Sheriff Joe."

More details can be found at www.ndlon.org.

I am definately going to that and the nightwatchman show on april 4th.

PC-2 Violence
02-21-2009, 03:24 PM
go meet Lucero:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2009/02/07/20090207jaguar0207.html


ps. Tucson>Phx.

hehe

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/theperryboy/mcod.jpg

PC-2 Violence
02-21-2009, 03:30 PM
Regina Spektor, while not 'bad-ass' has some pretty interesting lyrics and I bet she's a huge freak in bed.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/forzapalermo04/n10100904_38462123_2372.jpg

sin213
02-21-2009, 04:08 PM
I am definately going to that and the nightwatchman show on april 4th.


damn...now i'm going to have to get a saturday ticket JUST to see nightwatchman. fuck the rest of those bands. i wasn't gonna come within 2 miles of that place...crapola.

faxman75
02-21-2009, 05:12 PM
Ouch that's going to conflict with Calexico for you Jason.

Mr. Dylanja
02-21-2009, 05:23 PM
Where are they, MMMF?

Aurgasm
02-21-2009, 05:34 PM
fax- calexico plays az non-stop.. shouldnt be much of an issue.

faxman75
02-21-2009, 05:37 PM
Sorry, Calexico five hundred million times is better than the Nightwatchmen once. Watching a bad ass guitar player like Tom Morello do folk songs and sing is painful.

Aurgasm
02-21-2009, 05:40 PM
^hard to argue with that

Mr. Dylanja
02-21-2009, 05:41 PM
WHERE IS THE NIGHTWATCHMEN PLAYING?

mountmccabe
02-22-2009, 12:23 PM
Is anyone else getting Leonard Cohen tickets?

He is playing the Dodge on Sunday, April 5. I know he is playing Coachella and I know I don't like the Dodge but I don't like the Dodge for rock shows. And because Cohen is not a rock show he will work better at the Dodge than at Coachella. So if I can afford tickets, then bam.

The normal on-sale is 02/27 at 10 am. There is a Ticket Rush pre-sale on the 25th, a pre-sale on the 24th and the Fan Club on-sale is the 23rd.

I need to figure out how to get in one some of those earlier dates. I might have to check my junk folder for emails from LiveNation.

I haven't seen anything on prices, either.

Aurgasm
02-22-2009, 12:54 PM
^someone posted info on tix prices at a Cohen show in LA (Same tour as this)..they we're insane. like 60 minimum insane...

im pretty sure it was suprefan talking about the hollywood bowl..so maybe that explains the prices..

mountmccabe
02-22-2009, 01:06 PM
$60 minimum does not sound insane for seeing Leonard Cohen. Before the other night he hadn't played the US in 15+ years.

Aurgasm
02-22-2009, 01:12 PM
for seats in the back of the bowl; I'd just wait and see him at coach

sin213
02-22-2009, 01:22 PM
Ouch that's going to conflict with Calexico for you Jason.

not at all. the nightwatchman set is at 7pm. next set starts at 8:30...so he'll be done by 8. the Calexico show doesn't start til 8 and there is an opener. so I should be all good. no damn way i'd stay at that Tempe Music Fest for any act other than Nightwatchman. just seeing or hearing any of the others that day would probably make me throw up in my mouth.


WHERE IS THE NIGHTWATCHMEN PLAYING?

tempe music fest (http://www.tempemusicfestival.com/) on sat. set time is 7pm.




Is anyone else getting Leonard Cohen tickets?

He is playing the Dodge on Sunday, April 5. I know he is playing Coachella and I know I don't like the Dodge but I don't like the Dodge for rock shows. And because Cohen is not a rock show he will work better at the Dodge than at Coachella. So if I can afford tickets, then bam.

The normal on-sale is 02/27 at 10 am. There is a Ticket Rush pre-sale on the 25th, a pre-sale on the 24th and the Fan Club on-sale is the 23rd.

I need to figure out how to get in one some of those earlier dates. I might have to check my junk folder for emails from LiveNation.

I haven't seen anything on prices, either.

does anyone have the presale password??? if so, please post or PM me with it. thanx in advance!!! i'll see if i can find it online as well....

sin213
02-22-2009, 01:39 PM
actually, it looks like the presale password will be posted on the forums at his site just in advance of the presales.

captncrzy
02-22-2009, 02:08 PM
Rick was talking about going if they aren't too expensive.

faxman75
02-22-2009, 03:19 PM
I would love to go but as it stands I am not able to do anything outside of the shit in my signature. Getting NIN tickets is even going to be rough. I really wanted to see Cohen in PHX but I guess i'll have to settle for his 60 minutes at Coachella.

sin213
02-22-2009, 03:21 PM
true dat. you've seen calexico like 50 times...

faxman75
02-22-2009, 03:22 PM
As it stands I don't have tickets for Tucson or Flagstaff, I would indeed skip 2 calexico shows for Cohen.

faxman75
02-22-2009, 03:23 PM
true dat. you've seen calexico like 50 times...

False

I have seen Calexico probably 7 or 8 times. I have seen Roger Clyne around 50 times i'm sure.

sin213
02-22-2009, 03:25 PM
always get the two mixed up...

Aurgasm
02-22-2009, 03:25 PM
roger clyne + calexico= too many shows in az!

Not to be rude, but that tempe music fest lineup sucks. What other festivals do you get in Phx? i dont care about country

faxman75
02-22-2009, 03:28 PM
:) It's still quite a bit either way. RCPM is good get drunk have fun music. Calexico is much more diverse and has a wider range of instruments utilized in a performance.

faxman75
02-22-2009, 03:28 PM
roger clyne + calexico= too many shows in az!

Not to be rude, but that tempe music fest lineup sucks. What other festivals do you get in Phx? i dont care about country


McDowell Mountain Music Festival

We get the Flaming Lips.....you don't.

sin213
02-22-2009, 03:32 PM
Not to be rude, but that tempe music fest lineup sucks.

totally sux. except The Nightwatchman...gonna go to sat just for that. i'll have to run in and run out though..and hopefully miss all other bands playing. my ears may start bleeding...

Aurgasm
02-22-2009, 03:32 PM
Im passing on seeing them for a 6th time.

That lineup sucks too!!! other than the Lips, of course.

The Gem and Jam blows that out of the water. and WXSW is going to be fun this year.

NIN- ill be there

sbessiso
02-22-2009, 03:34 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/forzapalermo04/n10100904_38462123_2372.jpg

This is quickly becoming my new favorite picture

Aurgasm
02-22-2009, 03:39 PM
yea pc-2 must like it too...

Salah, shouldn't be trolling south beach for booty?

sbessiso
02-22-2009, 03:40 PM
Nah, it's my day off.

Also, The Nightwatchman is terrible. Almost as boring as Andrew Bird. ALMOST

Aurgasm
02-22-2009, 03:45 PM
lol@ 'day off' professional booty troller? haha

yea it's strange watching Tom do that gig. you keep expecting him to get up and shred it but no..he just sits there and sings folk music. if Zack is in town.... who knows what might happen

sin213
02-22-2009, 03:47 PM
i thought he had a decent set at coachella. i'd see him again...

sbessiso
02-22-2009, 03:50 PM
He forced my friend and I to leave and sit down while we waited patiently for the black keys at Bonnaroo 07

sin213
02-22-2009, 03:55 PM
he jumped off the stage and held you and your friend by gunpoint until you left?!? i wouldn't have thought he had it in him...his songs have such a peaceful message...

sbessiso
02-22-2009, 03:56 PM
I know! We were pretty surprised too

sin213
02-22-2009, 04:01 PM
I know! We were pretty surprised too


hahahaha. :p

Aurgasm
02-22-2009, 04:02 PM
I am incredibly excited for Zach this Saturday. I'm taking a picture with him, some way, some how.

ummm... he's not that kind of guy. but good luck.

Aurgasm
02-22-2009, 04:30 PM
no i've spoken with him at chess tournament though. just seems like a low key dude. i didnt mean to sound like a dick; seriously, good luck..i wish i'd have asked for a photo.

mountmccabe
02-22-2009, 05:52 PM
actually, it looks like the presale password will be posted on the forums at his site just in advance of the presales.

Yeah, I think I'm going to set an alarm to remind myself to check that at 8 am tomorrow. And then to log on to buy tickets two hours later.

Also:

Mar 2 - Fujiya & Miyagi @ Rhythm Room - $15
Mar 10 - No Age/The Goat @ Modified - $10
Mar 12 - Neil Halstead @ Rhythm Room - $10
Mar 16 - SxStateside 1: Viva Voce + 9 more @ Rhythm Room - $10
Mar 23 - the Mae Shi/Pre @ Trunk Space - $8
Mar 24 - SxStateside 2: Marnie Stern + 5 more @ Rhythm Room - $10
Apr 3 - Bonnie 'Prince' Billy @ Modified - $15
Apr 4 - Calexico @ Heritage Square - $20
Apr 5 - Leonard Cohen @ Dodge - ??
Apr 14 - Ariel Pink/Vivian Girls @ Modified - $10
April 21 - Gaslight Anthem/Heartless Bastards @ Clubhouse - $15
May 26 - The Thermals, the Shakey Hands @ Rhythm Room - $12

The bolded shows are $50; I am pretty sure I can't say no to those. The non-bolded non-Cohen shows cost $85. If I go to Cohen I have to say no to all of those. So I have to decide between 7 shows or 1 show. Ugh.

mountmccabe
02-22-2009, 05:54 PM
JFTR I'd like to point out that I am exceedingly happy that I have the choice. I am exceedingly happy that there are so many good options for shows to attend. And I am exceedingly happy that these shows are as cheap/not sold out as they are. Hell, there are more (Vetiver, Amon Amarth, etc) that would be cool if there was less going on.

TomAz
02-22-2009, 07:14 PM
I am considering breaking my 'no modified' policy for Bonnie Prince Billy. Considering.

mountmccabe
02-22-2009, 07:17 PM
Offer to buy you a Guiness before/between sets at the Lost Leaf a/o Carly's is still in effect

sin213
02-23-2009, 10:42 AM
so....wow. :eek:

cohen tix: $250 for rows 1-5, $175 for rows 5-10, $115 for rows 11-25 and $82.50 for all others.

i'd HAVE to with the $115 tix at a min...but that is a little rich for my blood...

just gonna have to catch at lolla. hopefully he is right before the moz.

mountmccabe
02-23-2009, 11:15 AM
Haha. I was busy all morning training and I didn't even think about Cohen. I kinda decided last night that I wasn't going to go anyway.

I will enjoy Neil Halstead and the Mae Shi and the Thermals instead and hope the crowd at Coachella is at least somewhat respectful.

Did anyone get tickets?

chairmenmeow47
02-23-2009, 02:20 PM
if y'all were over 21, you'd have way more love for the trunk space for it's vicinity to bikini lounge :)

i've never been to the trunk space myself though.

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2009, 02:43 PM
How were the slopes Ivy? Did you shred?

chairmenmeow47
02-23-2009, 02:49 PM
i did, no big spills either :)

flagstaff still had snow from the last big storm and it wasn't too slushy, just a bit on saturday. really warm too, i didn't even wear long johns or a beanie. i hope they get more snow before the end of the season so i can go back. even started zipping down the steeper runs on my front edge which i am generally afraid to do and also attempted a small jump :x wasn't too crowded either, much better than i had expected.

and the hotel aspen (innsuites.com) was AWESOME, i will post pics when i get home. $80 a night for a suite with a living room, mini-kitchen (stove, sink, freezer, microwave and mini-fridge), fold out couch, two tvs, nice bed with best western comftastic pillows, and a two person JACUZZI THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME. the continental breakfast was dope too, eggs, sausage, toast, cereal, waffles and such and they kept it stocked the whole time. they even had a "social hour" from 5-6:30 with two free drinks per person. loved it, would stay again.

PC-2 Violence
02-23-2009, 03:03 PM
I have the greatest pic of us from Saturday night.

Permission to post Dylan?

Ill pixelate your face like they do on cops.

mountmccabe
02-23-2009, 03:07 PM
if y'all were over 21, you'd have way more love for the trunk space for it's vicinity to bikini lounge :)

i've never been to the trunk space myself though.

Yeah, it's really nice to be able to chill inbetween sets at the Bikini with $3 32 oz pitchers of PBR.


I have some friends that rather hate the Trunk Space too. I kinda like it; I have seen quite a few good shows there. The sound is usually decent or at least comparable with other venues of that nature/size.

Then again I think I'm overly tolerant of venues. I'll go where the good bands are playing.

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2009, 03:31 PM
I have the greatest pic of us from Saturday night.

Permission to post Dylan?

Ill pixelate your face like they do on cops.

PIXELATE AWAY!!!

sin213
02-23-2009, 03:35 PM
photoshop pedobear's head on dylzzles..

faxman75
02-23-2009, 04:52 PM
Those Cohen ticket prices made that decision easy. Now it's a must see Coachella performance fore me.

chairmenmeow47
02-23-2009, 07:16 PM
currently there is a meth head waiting for her boyfriend who beat her up on our porch. tune in at 9 for more details :p

locachica73
02-24-2009, 01:57 AM
now that was a cliffhanger, its 3 am, where is the meth head?

chairmenmeow47
02-24-2009, 08:28 AM
apparently some other guy picked her up. i came home from my walk (thankfully through the back door) and my roommate asked if i saw the meth head on our porch. apparently the meth head had been banging on people's doors asking to use a phone because her boyfriend beat her up and left her and she told my roommate all this, so my roommate got her some water and let her use our house phone, from outside of course. the chick then just chilled on the porch until some guy came to pick her up. unfortunately it was less eventful than it sounds, but still so very strange to see her just sitting there all skinny on our porch. gotta love mesa!

locachica73
02-24-2009, 08:31 AM
When I first bought my house out in Mesa within the first 2 weeks there was a murder suicide across Baseline about 1/2 mile from my house and some granny got caught cooking meth in her old folks retirement home village across Sossomon. I wanted to move right then.

TomAz
02-24-2009, 06:32 PM
Mesa is full of Arpaio-supporting asswipes who think mexicans and the government are the reason they are broke, stupid and lazy.

faxman75
02-24-2009, 07:49 PM
I'm going to the protest.

locachica73
02-24-2009, 08:19 PM
Thier government is too corrupt and the people are too poor to do much about it.

TomAz
02-24-2009, 08:23 PM
Are you talking about Mesa or Mexico?

westcoastpirate
02-24-2009, 08:38 PM
They're talking about Buckeye

locachica73
02-24-2009, 08:51 PM
actually i was referring to mexico. although arpaio isn't much better.

paganman7
02-25-2009, 09:49 AM
Fuck you Phoenix! Fuck you sooooooo hard.

Yesterday in the mail I received a photo ticket from my visit to your shit hole of a city 3 weeks ago. I was going 78 in a 65, which is to say I was practically standing still in your arm pit of a city. $181 fee (plus a $2.50 "convenience fee" to pay online). Nice. I thought I was careful near those cameras, but apparently I missed the one on west bound 40th street on I-10.

Burn in hell without rising from the ashes!

locachica73
02-25-2009, 09:51 AM
LOL you were about a block from my office when you got your ticket, would you like me to go out and run over the camera for you?

paganman7
02-25-2009, 09:54 AM
LOL you were about a block from my office when you got your ticket, would you like me to go out and run over the camera for you?


I can't believe I just wasted more than half a coachella ticket.

I value everything in my life in relation to the cost of a 3 day pass. I'm adding a room to my house, which is costing me about 11 coachella tickets. Yesterday at the grocery store I spent 1/8th of a coachella ticket.

Somewhat Damaged
02-25-2009, 09:55 AM
Greetings from New Jersey! It's fucking cold here. Like, today is a relatively balmy 35 degrees. (I think what's making it not feel as cold as it did on Monday when it was 26 degrees when I was driving back to the hotel is that the wind has died down.) Can't wait to return home.

I can't believe the Leonard Cohen show is going to be that expensive. And people were talking shit about the Tom Waits show. Oh well.

locachica73
02-25-2009, 09:58 AM
I can't believe I just wasted more than half a coachella ticket.

I value everything in my life in relation to the cost of a 3 day pass. I'm adding a room to my house, which is costing me about 11 coachella tickets. Yesterday at the grocery store I spent 1/8th of a coachella ticket.

Don't pay it, they have like 90 days to serve you and then it just goes away. If they serve you, then worry about it.

chairmenmeow47
02-25-2009, 09:58 AM
that sounds way too cold for me!

paganman7, that's funny, i had a friend who thought of everything in relation to jack in the box tacos. for example, "we went to sushi and could have bought four hundred and fourty-four tacos for the same price!!!!"

not going to the protest. while i am an immigration sympathizer, i've never been to a protest that felt like it was accomplishing something.

paganman7
02-25-2009, 10:00 AM
Don't pay it, they have like 90 days to serve you and then it just goes away. If they serve you, then worry about it.


I already did. I'm a big pussy.

sddoctor
02-25-2009, 10:00 AM
Fuck you Phoenix! Fuck you sooooooo hard.

Yesterday in the mail I received a photo ticket from my visit to your shit hole of a city 3 weeks ago. I was going 78 in a 65, which is to say I was practically standing still in your arm pit of a city. $181 fee (plus a $2.50 "convenience fee" to pay online). Nice. I thought I was careful near those cameras, but apparently I missed the one on west bound 40th street on I-10.

Burn in hell without rising from the ashes!

You know you don't really have to pay for those tickets, they aren't enforced and they don't go on your driving record. Plus, soon they may be going away, hopefully.

locachica73
02-25-2009, 10:00 AM
LOL when my kids were little everything was measured in Scooby Doo's whenever we would go on a road trip they would ask if we were almost there, I would say we have an hour, well how many Scooby Doo's is that? umm 2. Then when we would get really close I would tell them they were at the point where the ghost was chasing them all to the music. awww fond memories. :)

locachica73
02-25-2009, 10:02 AM
I already did. I'm a big pussy.

I paid my first one too. haven't paid any since though, eventually I will get pulled over and lynched.

paganman7
02-25-2009, 10:02 AM
You know you don't really have to pay for those tickets, they aren't enforced and they don't go on your driving record. Plus, soon they may be going away, hopefully.


You're the second person to tell me that within 40 seconds. Where were you fuckers 6 minutes ago when I was paying my fine?

Mr. Dylanja
02-25-2009, 10:42 AM
Is anybody going to Modest Mouse tonight, anyone, anyone?

amyzzz
02-25-2009, 12:11 PM
Rule of thumb is stay under 75 in the 65 mph areas. They ticket at 11 mph over the speed limit.

sin213
02-25-2009, 12:23 PM
Is anybody going to Modest Mouse tonight, anyone, anyone?

i'm not. never been that much of a fan of theirs...

paganman7
02-25-2009, 12:46 PM
Rule of thumb is stay under 75 in the 65 mph areas. They ticket at 11 mph over the speed limit.


That's what my father-in-law told me also. I guess he's not a big stupid retard after all!

amyzzz
02-25-2009, 01:34 PM
Sometimes it will "flash" you at 5 mph over, but that's just a warning flash.

downingthief
02-25-2009, 02:51 PM
Sometimes it will "flash" you at 5 mph over, but that's just a warning flash.

Wish it was something else flashing. :p

Hate those damn cameras.

faxman75
02-25-2009, 04:58 PM
Rule of thumb is stay under 75 in the 65 mph areas. They ticket at 11 mph over the speed limit.


Not all of them. My ticket says 10 over, 65 in a 55, it was the camera on the I-10 around 51st ave. A coworker showed me hers that was 7mph over NOT A WARNING...it was flashed on the 101 near the Cards stadium. I wouldn't do more than five when you pass them. I think if I can make it to Sasquatch without being served before then the time will have lapsed. I was flashed in late November.

Mr. Dylanja
02-25-2009, 05:00 PM
Not all of them. My ticket says 10 over. A coworker showed me hers that was 7mph over. I wouldn't do more than five when you pass them.

I was doing cocaine on mine and it said pull over, didn't even give a speed, wtf?!?

faxman75
02-25-2009, 05:14 PM
You're a wild man Dizzzle.

downingthief
02-26-2009, 08:55 AM
Way to go, Sheriff Joe:

Experts call ICE program used by Arpaio a failure
by Daniel González - Feb. 26, 2009 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's continuing and controversial crackdown on illegal immigration and the federal program that lets him identify and arrest undocumented immigrants is a financial and public-safety failure, according to a new report.

The program, known as 287 (g), has been touted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement as a public-safety measure aimed at removing criminal illegal immigrants. But the Sheriff's Office and other participating agencies have focused on easy targets such as traffic violators and day laborers who pose little threat, says the report by Justice Strategies, a non-profit nonpartisan research group based in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Arpaio defended his participation in the program, which he said has led to the identification of thousands of illegal immigrants.
Though ICE touts the nearly 8-year-old program as a money saver, Arizona taxpayers are footing a greater share of the bill for enforcing immigration laws, usually the responsibility of the federal government, according to the report to be released today. Enforcing immigration laws detracts local police from their primary job of fighting crime and keeping neighborhoods safe, the report says, and race, not crime, has fueled the program's growth in Phoenix and other areas of the country with growing Latino populations.

"It had enough time to prove itself, and it failed," said Aarti Shahani, a researcher with the Justice Strategies group who co-authored the report. "The immigration system is broken, and 287 (g) is not the way to fix it. It's like pouring water into a cup that is broken, and the water keeps leaking out. It isn't doing anything to solve the problem."

The report concludes by recommending that the Obama administration terminate the program, which was created under the Clinton administration but wasn't promoted until after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, under the Bush administration.

The report comes amid growing opposition to Arpaio's immigration crackdowns. The National Day Labor Organizing Network, Somos America and other pro-immigrant groups plan to hold demonstrations on Friday and Saturday in Phoenix and other parts of the country calling for an end to the crackdowns.

Less than two weeks ago, four key Democratic members of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee asked Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to investigate complaints that since Arpaio signed a 287 (g) agreement with ICE in 2007, deputies have unconstitutionally used skin color to look for illegal immigrants as part of a series of crime sweeps and work-site raids. The four Democrats also asked for Napolitano, the former Arizona governor, to terminate Arpaio's agreement if any problems can't be fixed.

Arpaio this week sent a letter to the four Democrats, including U.S. Rep. John Conyers, D-Michigan, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, saying that his office is abiding by the agreement and inviting them to come see the program for themselves.

Despite the criticism, polls show that Arpaio's crackdowns have broad public support. In November, he was re-elected to his fifth four-year term.

Under the 287 (g) program, Maricopa County sheriff's deputies have arrested 1,434 people for immigration violations, often after they had been encountered by deputies investigating state crimes, Arpaio said.

Michael Keegan, a spokesman for Homeland Security, said the Justice Strategies report would be reviewed.

"The department takes very seriously any allegations of civil-rights abuses, and Secretary Napolitano is undertaking a broad review of all immigration programs, including the 287 (g) agreements," he said.

ICE credits the program with identifying more than 70,000 people suspected of being in the country illegally.

U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee and author of the 287 (g) program, defended it.

"It is astonishing that anyone would want to end a successful, voluntary program that protects American communities from criminal illegal immigrants," Smith said.

chairmenmeow47
02-26-2009, 09:15 AM
Less than two weeks ago, four key Democratic members of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee asked Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to investigate complaints that since Arpaio signed a 287 (g) agreement with ICE in 2007, deputies have unconstitutionally used skin color to look for illegal immigrants as part of a series of crime sweeps and work-site raids.

they really need an investigation for that? it's not PAINFULLY obvious?

paganman7
02-26-2009, 09:46 AM
Your sheriff is a retard.

downingthief
02-26-2009, 09:52 AM
Yet, he keeps getting re-elected.

paganman7
02-26-2009, 09:55 AM
Yet, he keeps getting re-elected.

Because you live in a city with a bunch of right-leaning douchebags who do nothing except complain about taxes and illegal immigrants, try to find even more ways to eliminate unnecessary programs like education, and spend way too much time hating on the gays.


*proud to live in the bluest city in the state*

downingthief
02-26-2009, 10:01 AM
Not disagreeing on your points, but calling Tucson blue is like calling a homeless person "frugal".

paganman7
02-26-2009, 10:04 AM
Not disagreeing on your points, but calling Tucson blue is like calling a homeless person "frugal".


I'm not sure I know what you mean. We've voted blue in nearly every election I can recall.

downingthief
02-26-2009, 10:12 AM
I know, just making a joke.

I get to see the Red side, unfortunately, when I am down there. My in-laws are VERY Right leaning. I have to bite my tongue every time I am with them.

amyzzz
02-26-2009, 12:11 PM
It would shweet if Napolitano got to smack Arpaio down.

TomAz
02-27-2009, 01:03 PM
they really need an investigation for that? it's not PAINFULLY obvious?

I don't know why they would think a bunch of white, jackbooted, heavily armed sherriff's deputies going into hispanic neighborhoods unprovoked and rounding people up at gunpoint and then hauling them away could be racist. Gosh.

Somewhat Damaged
02-28-2009, 12:38 PM
I'm not sure I know what you mean. We've voted blue in nearly every election I can recall.

How long's Walkup been mayor?

TomAz
02-28-2009, 08:33 PM
13 years living in Arizona, and I saw my first rattlesnake today. and if that woman hadn't've been standing by the trail waiving at me, I'd've walked right into it. Don't wear headphones while hiking this time of year.

mountmccabe
02-28-2009, 09:38 PM
I almost tripped over a rattlesnake that was near as thick as my arm whilst hunting for quail one November morning near Roosevelt Lake. This was a good while ago when I went hunting and when my arm was slightly thinner than it is now.

TomAz
02-28-2009, 09:43 PM
I never pictured you as a hunter.

mountmccabe
02-28-2009, 09:51 PM
I grew up in Michigan. I first when deer hunting when I was like 7.

It's been a long while, though. On purpose, even. I will be fine with never going hunting again.

Also I have not shot any mammals. Quail, yes. I've also gone fishing and caught fish. Eaten them, too. Also I kill a lot of bacteria and yeasts and molds at work sometimes.

kreutz2112
02-28-2009, 10:14 PM
you don't really have to hunt bacteria or yeast, unless your -80 is unorganized.

TomAz
02-28-2009, 10:17 PM
I would like to go hunting some time. I have never been but I would like the experience of killing something warm-blooded that I then eat. Not that I partcularly want to kill but because it seems like it would be more honest to actually kill the thing I eat, for once, rather than rely on others to do it for me where I can't see. I would like to experience this.

I own no guns, have shot a pistol and a shotgun only a few times in my life, and have no idea how I would go about this hunting thing. But I would like to do it, once.

mountmccabe
02-28-2009, 10:18 PM
Freshly shot, plucked and roasted quail is awesome. They are tiny fucking birds, though.

Also after going hunting for quail it was weird walking around campus with all the pigeons. They sound way different but I'd still be a little jumpy when I'd get back.

chairmenmeow47
03-01-2009, 08:53 AM
i only really enjoyed hunting when we went with a bow & arrow as a kid, never had too much fun with the rifle, prolly cause it was a daisy though :p

and this is for audra and aj, sorry but i was pretty lame this weekend and in bed really early. hope you guys had fun doing whatever it is you were doing :)

mountmccabe
03-01-2009, 04:11 PM
I will be there.

locachica73
03-01-2009, 05:57 PM
i only really enjoyed hunting when we went with a bow & arrow as a kid, never had too much fun with the rifle, prolly cause it was a daisy though :p

and this is for audra and aj, sorry but i was pretty lame this weekend and in bed really early. hope you guys had fun doing whatever it is you were doing :)

No big deal girl, I ended up at Fate but it kind of dead so we left there and went to another bar. Some little tiny girl tried to get in a fight with me. Why is it that the smallest girl in the bar always has the biggest mouth? I had to laugh, I could have damn near picked her up and tossed her.

westcoastpirate
03-01-2009, 07:27 PM
Fujiya Miyagi Fujiya Miyagi In One Ear and Out the Other...I'll be there

captncrzy
03-01-2009, 07:48 PM
I was going to go, but I'm going out of town early Wednesday, so I know I'm gonna have shit to do tomorrow and Tuesday night. I may change my mind at the last minute, but I doubt it.

mountmccabe
03-01-2009, 08:36 PM
I can't go tomorrow night. Bummer. When is The Mae Shi, because unfortunately I might be out of town for them as well.

Monday, March 23. I listened to HLLLYH whilst working out this evening and got pretty excited for that show.

TomAz
03-01-2009, 09:56 PM
fuck monday night shows.

chairmenmeow47
03-02-2009, 09:13 AM
No big deal girl, I ended up at Fate but it kind of dead so we left there and went to another bar. Some little tiny girl tried to get in a fight with me. Why is it that the smallest girl in the bar always has the biggest mouth? I had to laugh, I could have damn near picked her up and tossed her.

that is funny. i want to know who it was. i was actually at nine05 (formerly fate/next door, new management so now it's nine05) from about 7-9 on friday. i had a friend visiting from tucson and we surprised his friend who was djing early on. i had dinner at nine05, seems to be the same menu for the most part cause the pad thai chicken was still spicy as FUCK! good though and seems like they're doing exciting things in the house, it's been a minute since i've been down there. can't wait to see the place when it's all done :)

locachica73
03-02-2009, 09:29 AM
We got there at like 10, I like that place and I have had alot of fun there the times I went but my girl Beth doesn't like that kind of music so we bailed and went to The Hat Rack down on 35th Ave and Baseline. A friend of mine lives down there and his friends own the bar. We had fun until the little 5ft nothin tried to kick me for hugging my friend Chad. I asked Chad if he had ever banged her or what the deal was as to why she wanted to kick my ass. He said he had never met her before. Apparently she just didn't like the looks of me. Oh well, my mood was shitty so it was a good way to release some aggressions.

downingthief
03-02-2009, 09:29 AM
fuck monday night shows.

No kidding.

chairmenmeow47
03-02-2009, 10:51 AM
this is a total long shot, but does anyone know of a good studio to take flamenco lessons? my girflriend and i are interested.

she also currently takes pole dancing lessons and the teacher is offering some sort of sexy spy aerobics class on sundays. the pole dancing is way too expensive for me, but the spy thing sounds fun. i was too cranky to go yesterday, but i will be there next sunday, should be interesting and sounds like a ton of fun :) i'm sure all of you will be on the edge of your seat waiting for me to post the class information so you can go too :p

locachica73
03-02-2009, 10:54 AM
I have always wanted to take a dance class, I love to dance but hate to excercise at a gym. I can dance for 4 hours straight though and love the way I feel the next day, the sore muscles mean I had a great workout, but riding a bike for 4 hours just doesn't sound like fun, could be the lack of booze involved though. What exactly is a sexy spy aerobic class? I would love to take a hip hop dance class since that is mostly what I dance too.

chairmenmeow47
03-02-2009, 10:58 AM
I have always wanted to take a dance class, I love to dance but hate to excercise at a gym. I can dance for 4 hours straight though and love the way I feel the next day, the sore muscles mean I had a great workout, but riding a bike for 4 hours just doesn't sound like fun, could be the lack of booze involved though. What exactly is a sexy spy aerobic class? I would love to take a hip hop dance class since that is mostly what I dance too.

the class is supposedly taught by a former spy. she basically just teaches you how to act like a sexy spy, but there's a lot of lunges and shit like that cause my girlfriend's legs are so sore today! i think it's just acting out spy "scenarios" and being in control, slight of hand, that sort of thing, but all done in a "sexy" manner. i will give a full report next week :)

i also agree that dancing is the best workout. when i was in ballet i was fucking tight. i'd also love to take a hip hop class. and a break dancing class :p

locachica73
03-02-2009, 11:02 AM
You live down in Chandler/Mesa area? I know there is a dance class place right on Arizona Ave just north of Elliott I believe, on the west side of the street. At least there was when I use to live down there. Now I am thinking I might have to look up a hip hop dance class on this side of town, I need to find something new to occupy my brain since I think I may have to cut back on poker playing for a bit. At least until I can stop wanting to make out with the dude that has a girlfriend there. LOL

mountmccabe
03-02-2009, 11:25 AM
Audra: Fatcat Ballroom (http://www.fatcatballroomrocks.com/home.htm), at 32nd St and Thunderbird.

They have weekly Hip Hop dance classes at 5:30 pm on Fridays. Their classes are about an hour long and cost $5.

Most of their classes are various types of Swing, Latin and classic ballroom dances. What I like is Mondays and Thursday nights; each week they have a different dance and they do a beginning and an intermediate class in that dance. Like tonight, they have Beginning Tango - which is for anyone, even people who have never seen Tango before - at 6:30 pm and then an Intermediate Tango - which builds on what was learned in the first hour, and is good practice for those steps - at 7:30 pm. Other dances they're teaching like this include East Coast Swing, Rumba and Viennese Waltz.

It's been a while since I've made it but these are generally small group classes, the ones I have been to have only had 4-8 students. There's a lead teacher but there are often other Fatcat instructors around that take part/help you with the steps and such.

2 hours of small group dance instruction for only $10. You don't have to bring a partner (everybody dances with everybody, generally) you don't even have to stay for the Intermediate class if you don't want to.

And it's not for me but Friday nights they do the same Beginning/Intermediate paired classes starting at 7:30 and then follow that up with an open dance party, and that's only $5 for the whole night.

locachica73
03-02-2009, 11:28 AM
Thank you, I will have to check it out. I have never done anything like that because I always assumed you had to have a partner. I was at Bridgettes on Saturday for Kareoke and they have a dance floor there. Me and the other girls were doing our version of swing dancing. I am typically the leader and swing them, eventually I will have to learn to be the girl in that situation.

chairmenmeow47
03-02-2009, 11:29 AM
has that ballroom been around awhile? i knew some people who did shows out of there, but i can't remember now if it was ballroom or theatre.

mountmccabe
03-02-2009, 11:32 AM
Fatcat has only been around just over a year.

chairmenmeow47
03-02-2009, 11:34 AM
i wonder if it's the same location then, interesting.

so far i've only found one studio with an actual beginners flamenco class, boo. there's one by asu that seems more advanced, i e-mailed them for more info.

what dance do you take, john?

chairmenmeow47
03-02-2009, 11:39 AM
oh and if anyone is interested in seeing Rabbit in the Moon live, they are supposedly coming to boo's wherehouse on april 11th. i won't be at that child pisser's wherehouse, but if you are interested & need more info, i'll get it for you. i would HIGHLY not recommend buying tickets until closer to the actual date though as RITM has a curse on them playing in arizona; it never seems to actually pan out. i hope anyone who does go enjoys themselves, i hear boo's has been packed lately so i'm sure it will be fun.

locachica73
03-02-2009, 11:41 AM
OK I may have to hit up the Friday hip hop at 5:30 if I can get there in time.

Looking at their calendar just made me realize that we are heading out to Cali in less then 2 weeks. Time flies when your drunk and partying. Whoohooo.

captncrzy
03-02-2009, 12:19 PM
oh and if anyone is interested in seeing Rabbit in the Moon live, they are supposedly coming to boo's wherehouse on april 11th.

I wonder if they're getting a Coach add...

chairmenmeow47
03-02-2009, 12:22 PM
perhaps, good theory, but i wouldn't put too much weight on AZ dates as the last 3 times at least they have cancelled or had booking issues in the first place.

mountmccabe
03-02-2009, 02:59 PM
so far i've only found one studio with an actual beginners flamenco class, boo. there's one by asu that seems more advanced, i e-mailed them for more info.

what dance do you take, john?

I have been there for Salsa and Tango. Maybe one other? I don't remember. I want to start going again.

Wrong side of the city for you but I have not seen any flamenco offered at Fatcat.

westcoastpirate
03-02-2009, 04:27 PM
Seriously, Fujiya & Miyagi anyone?

And there's a great dance studio at Central and Camelback, supposedly the best in Phx area that teaches flamenco and tango, but I can't remember the name...

faxman75
03-02-2009, 04:28 PM
Hi fellow Phoenicians. Hope you all have been doing well. Any gatherings coming up any time soon?

chairmenmeow47
03-02-2009, 05:18 PM
i will have more info for you soon, i sent a text to one of the promoters who had told me about it and i'll post when i know more. and thanks for the heads-up on les miz, i'll keep that in mind. i know i'm going to try to see godspell later this month too as i fucking love godspell. i finally broke down and bought the soundtrack again last night and have been singing prepare ye the way of the lord all day :p

john, thanks. that'd actually be the "right" side of town as i'm looking for something midway between me and my friend who lives at t-bird and fucking 75th avenue. so far though i only found 2 flamenco studios in the whole valley, and one website doesn't appear to have been updated since 2006. i sent out emails though, so we'll see. i hope to be flamenco dancing soon :) and i was hoping you did swing dance, i sure do miss swing dancing!!!

PC-2 Violence
03-02-2009, 06:04 PM
OK I may have to hit up the Friday hip hop at 5:30 if I can get there in time.

Looking at their calendar just made me realize that we are heading out to Cali in less then 2 weeks. Time flies when your drunk and partying. Whoohooo.

I bought my ticket yesterday. I had faith that our trip was still going down so I bought it without haste.

See you guys soon.

locachica73
03-03-2009, 01:07 AM
The dance studio on Camelback is the fred astair (sp?) dance studio. The only reason I know that is every time I drive by it I think of the line from Dirty Dancing where he learned to dance at the fred astair studio.

only 10 days till our trip, and I am pretty sure i just agreed to go to LA this weekend as well with my ex (not nino, a different one). WTF, I shouldn't be allowed to speak when drinking.

chairmenmeow47
03-03-2009, 08:23 AM
I bought my ticket yesterday. I had faith that our trip was still going down so I bought it without haste.

See you guys soon.

yay, can't wait!!! less than two weeks!!!

and that sounds like TROUBLE loca!

locachica73
03-03-2009, 08:34 AM
Yeah I think I have myself talked out of it. He wants to rent a "nice" car while my car is in the shop and go camp on the beach in LA. I don't really camp, I like showers, it is the weekend before my birthday and since I am out of town after my birthday I kind of feel like I should stick around here and do the family thing as well as spend some time with my other friends. But after a couple of margaritas at iguana macs I can be talked into damn near anything. I am also looking to get some new tats out of the guy. ;)

PC-2 Violence
03-03-2009, 08:47 AM
Yeah I think I have myself talked out of it. He wants to rent a "nice" car while my car is in the shop and go camp on the beach in LA. I don't really camp, I like showers, it is the weekend before my birthday and since I am out of town after my birthday I kind of feel like I should stick around here and do the family thing as well as spend some time with my other friends. But after a couple of margaritas at iguana macs I can be talked into damn near anything. I am also looking to get some new tats out of the guy. ;)

So your saying your going to LA three weekends in a row?

I try and work ppl for tats too :)

So is our group just going to be us three or are you bringing a friend Ivy?

chairmenmeow47
03-03-2009, 08:50 AM
just the three of us, i'm not bringing anyone. i'm just along for the ride to randytown :p

and sorry i missed you this weekend, i was really, really lame and in bed super early.

locachica73
03-03-2009, 08:54 AM
So your saying your going to LA three weekends in a row?

I try and work ppl for tats too :)

So is our group just going to be us three or are you bringing a friend Ivy?

No it would be just this weekend and next weekend. And probably only going next weekend with you guys, although Barac will probably pressure me into going and I will probably cave lol. But it's on his dime so why the hell not right? OK see that, now I am trying to talk myself into it.

He did one of my tats when we dated before but I haven't seen him in 2 years, it is time for a new tat and a shoulder piece can be pretty spendy. :p

PC-2 Violence
03-03-2009, 09:54 AM
just the three of us, i'm not bringing anyone. i'm just along for the ride to randytown :p

and sorry i missed you this weekend, i was really, really lame and in bed super early.

I was out and about trying to hit different spots and nothing was happening so I decided to see if you were in the mix.

Ok so lets go over the itinerary again...

Leave Friday 2pm? I should not have to work at all that day.

Arrive 8pm go to HARD

Stay at Tims

Go to SD Sat morning?

please fill in the rest:

locachica73
03-03-2009, 09:59 AM
Go to SD in the morning with Ally, Mikey, Tim, You and I... Not sure if anyone else is going. Hang out there, I need to see the beach and have some good seafood at some point. I have to do that anytime I am in Cali. I am torn between campfires at the beach Saturday night with beers and smores or going out dancing somewhere with Ally and whoever else wants to join in, smoke some weed and do some drugs. Then Sunday is open until we leave around 3ish maybe to LA to get Ivy and then drive back arriving here around 10ish? I don't really have any other plans other then HARD and just having fun and enjoying my long needed vacation. :)

PC-2 Violence
03-03-2009, 10:22 AM
Friday: RAGE

Saturday: RAGE

Sunday: RAGE

locachica73
03-03-2009, 10:24 AM
Oh, and I do not have any CD's or anything in my car, I cancelled my XM so you guys might want to pack some music choices since I am not really the music girl in this mix. Whatever you guys want I am cool with (except country which I doubt will be an issue).

Pixiessp
03-03-2009, 10:34 AM
i know i'm going to try to see godspell later this month too as i fucking love godspell. i finally broke down and bought the soundtrack again last night and have been singing prepare ye the way of the lord all day :p



I love Godspell!!!!! Have never seen it performed live but i used to listen to the album religiously.

chairmenmeow47
03-03-2009, 11:01 AM
i have an FM transmitter for my ipod, so as long as you have an FM radio, we'll at least have that :)

and glad to hear it, pixie :)

locachica73
03-03-2009, 11:08 AM
ok cool ivy. i miss my ipod so much. i am secretly hoping my sister will buy me one for my birthday. :)

PC-2 Violence
03-03-2009, 11:12 AM
I have lots of CD's of Coach 09 artists.

DRO DRO DRO

westcoastpirate
03-03-2009, 02:55 PM
You guys missed out on Fujiya and Miyagi last night...the Rhythm Room went off. Here's a review from the New Times:


Fujiya & Miyagi Funk Up the Place
By Michael Lopez
Tuesday, Mar. 3 2009 @ 9:34AM
Victor Palagano
Taking a mere 18 minutes to start after opening act Project Penny & Project Jan finished, Brighton's Fujiya & Miyagi graced the stage Monday night at the Rhythm Room to an expectant crowd that most likely wasn't expecting the show they witnessed.

The band jumped right into "Sore Thumb," off its most recent album, Lightbulbs, a decidedly perfect opener for their light, funky, and insanely danceable set. The band relied on a drum machine for the song (a drumset sat empty), which is no big deal considering they are an electronic/indie music band. Reluctance to use the drums lasted all of one song, though, as Fujiya & Miyagi raised the stakes, unleashing live drums on the audience. It was easy for me to see from that point that the band would have the crowd in the palm of their polite, British hands.

Fujiya & Miyagi's set was heavy on material off Lightbulbs, but the band was sure to include some of the more popular songs from 2006's Transparent Things -- songs like "Collarbone" and "Ankle Injuries," the latter proving to be the band's anthem thanks oh-so-clever lyric "fujiya, miyagi, fujiya, miyagi." I'm pretty sure those in attendance knew who they were here to see, and their dancing was plenty indicative of that. Hanging out on to the left of the stage proved to be where all the happy dancers were, and I loved every minute of it. I love to the the 'Nix get down like it did on Monday night, and I am thankful that a British act like Fujiya & Miyagi were gracious enough to bless our little town with their presence.

To say the band absolutely killed would be an understatement -- their music was bolstered by Lee Adams' precision-tuned drumming complimented with David "Miyagi" Best's demure, almost bored-sounding vocals. I love that the guy can sing the way he does -- he sounds like he has a million things better to do than singing on stage, but yet he just pulls you in with his reluctant vocal genius, and he'll be damned if you ever try to get away. Cruising through hits like "Knickerbocker," "Uh" and "Pussyfooting," Fujiya & Miyagi proved that they were a funky force to be reckoned with. Most everyone in the crowd was bobbing their heads along to the music, if not full out dancing. It's saying something when four average looking British lads can whip the crowd into a frenzy like that. Fujiya & Miyagi possess a magical power -- and short of labeling them warlocks, I will be happy to concede to the fact that they are smart, precise inducers of all things funky.

Critic's Notebook:

Last Night: Fujiya & Miyagi at The Rhythm Room

Better Than: Getting your dance on at some Old Town Scottsdale establishment that attracts a decidedly different crowd than The Rhythm Room

Personal Bias: Fujiya & Miyagi play perhaps my favorite genre of music, so seeing them absolutely nail it live was an enjoyable experience. I also love the fact that electronic acts love to project cool, random video on a screen behind them while they play, and Fujiya & Miyagi's video dice mosaic was quite a sight to behold.

Random Detail: You know your band is making the crowd groove when they get a group of fans start up an imaginary jump-rope.

Further Listening: "Knickerbocker" as well as "Collarbone" and "Sore Thumb" at the band's MySpace.

One More Thing: I knew that Fujiya & Miyagi recently collaborated on a song with openers Project Penny & Project Jan. I didn't know if I would hear the song last night, but I hoped I would. My prayers were answered when Project Penny & Project Jan joined Fujiya & Miyagi onstage for the last song of the night, "Pins & Needles."

chairmenmeow47
03-03-2009, 04:00 PM
so there's no "official" info yet for that RITM thing, sorry gonshman, but no further info as of yet other than it will be at a werehouse downtown near the icehouse that is owned by that fuckhead boo. it sounds like z-trip may be there too, damn, why does this have to be at boo's?!?!?

and i may be at the pound tonight to say farewell to dallas aka ladykilla. if anyone is interested, it's going to be mostly breaks i think tonight since blake (Ill-Legal?) is playing, but no cover & it's on the NW corner of baseline and price. i forget the actual name of the venue, but it's on the far right corner.

westcoastpirate
03-03-2009, 08:37 PM
I loved the people doing the fake double-dutch jump rope dance move last night at F&M, I'm stealing that for Coachella.

happypappy420
03-03-2009, 08:57 PM
infected mushroom info:

http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=53798


INFECTED MUSHROOM LIVE
TURNER & HEIT
CHRIS FORSYTH
SYSTEM 22
MATTY
ESSEX
STRYKER TV
KEVIN BROWN


Location:
Stratus (formely Area)
2102 N 23 Av
Phoenix, AZ 85009

happypappy420
03-03-2009, 09:30 PM
gonshman, i was a little stoned and forgot what i was looking for. got excited when i saw infected mushroom and confused it with rabbit in the moon!

Somewhat Damaged
03-03-2009, 09:55 PM
Simultaneously glad and upset to hear about the Fujiya & Miyagi show last night, Tom. I unfortunately had a doctor's appointment that cut into what I was hoping to get accomplished for the evening. It's encouraging to hear that the turnout was really good, though. Hopefully they return soon and get booked in a larger venue. On a night other than Monday. (Ugh, beginning of the week is just shitty.)

Infected Mushroom are awesome live, had a blast closing out Coachella '07 dancing to them instead of watching anymore of Rage. (I caught the first half hour of RATM and that was more than enough.) That looks like an eminently doable show. Can anyone offer an opinion on the quality of that venue? Say, for example, is it douchebag ridden like Myst?

Mr. Dylanja
03-03-2009, 10:07 PM
NIN Friday, May 15th Cricket

Somewhat Damaged
03-04-2009, 05:55 AM
Board meet-up!

Damn, so the concert attending looks like this:

4/11 - Infected Mushroom
4/17-19 - Coachella
4/24 - Ladytron, The Faint
4/25 - Flaming Lips
5/15 - Nine Inch Nails, Jane's Addiction
6/1 - Fever Ray

And this was gonna be the year I wasn't gonna go to as many shows.

westcoastpirate
03-04-2009, 06:31 AM
Area is westside looks like near I-17 and McDowell so definitely less douchey, and I bet cheaper drinks too.

captncrzy
03-04-2009, 06:49 AM
Not westside--Central. Which is worse.

happypappy420
03-04-2009, 07:08 AM
I also do not know anything about this venue. When it was Area it used to be a gay bar. I assume that it still is. the pics that i saw of the venue looked really cool but other than that, i know nothing about it. i believe that they have an outdoor stage as well as as a large indoor stage.

chairmenmeow47
03-04-2009, 07:34 AM
i am going to guess that the area show is different from the RITM show. i was told the RITM show would be at boo's warehouse, not area or whatever they're calling it now. i'd go to area, i always miss infected mushroom. why two big shows on the 11th then, wtf phoenix?!

area does have an indoor and outdoor section. it's not huge, but it's not small. the indoor area is a stage and there are bathrooms. there was also a back vip room. there was an outside parking lot type area where they tend to put 1-3 stages. it's really only big enough for one nice stage, there's always been bleed with multiple stages out there.

captncrzy
03-04-2009, 07:44 AM
Yeah, it's weird that both are on the 11th. I still think RITM is getting a Coach add. Doesn't look like IM is, based on tour dates though.

chairmenmeow47
03-04-2009, 08:26 AM
NIN Friday, May 15th Cricket

keep me posted on ticket info, i can't keep up in the nin thread :)

mountmccabe
03-04-2009, 08:29 AM
I was at F&M! It was a great show. I have not had a chance to upload pics/post a review. The invisible jumprope thing was pretty hilarious. I was so happy to see so many people having a good time at the show.

westcoastpirate
03-04-2009, 08:31 AM
Yeah I-17 and McDowell is not central, that's like Le Girls and Adult Video Shops stylee

sin213
03-04-2009, 08:46 AM
no doubt on may 23rd....anyone? cricket pav.

i'm probably just gonna get lawn tix. $25.

westcoastpirate
03-04-2009, 08:54 AM
And another thing, Mon nights at the Rhythm Room=$1.50 Schlitz and PBR

Somewhat Damaged
03-04-2009, 10:41 AM
no doubt on may 23rd....anyone? cricket pav.

i'm probably just gonna get lawn tix. $25.

I won't go but I may buy tickets for my sister for her birthday. Or hell, maybe I'll buy 2 tickets and go with her if she and her on-again/off-again girlfriend are off-again come the end of May.

chairmenmeow47
03-04-2009, 10:45 AM
drumcore thread regarding RITM (http://www.drum-core.com/board/showthread.php?t=14694)

Somewhat Damaged
03-04-2009, 10:57 AM
Why didn't anybody tell me about this? http://www.luckymanonline.com/EventDetail.aspx?eventID=2275

Fuck my sister's birthday, a Juggalo Mini-Gathering is where I'll be! Where's Rap/Rock4Lyfe?

sin213
03-04-2009, 12:11 PM
lol rick... :nono

i saw that and laughed...juggalo meetup. wtf?

chairmenmeow47
03-04-2009, 01:27 PM
a little bird just told me that the infected mushroom show thrown by relentless beats will NOT be happening on april 11th due to the RITM show. just a heads-up to anyone that was considering going, like myself. i am cursed when it comes to IM.

amyzzz
03-04-2009, 03:41 PM
I'm glad I haven't mentioned the IM to Jacob yet, if that is the case.

kreutz2112
03-04-2009, 03:43 PM
i am cursed when it comes to IM.

So am I. They are playing salt lake on June 26, so maybe they will be in Phoenix again around that time.

westcoastpirate
03-04-2009, 04:22 PM
I was at F&M! It was a great show. I have not had a chance to upload pics/post a review. The invisible jumprope thing was pretty hilarious. I was so happy to see so many people having a good time at the show.

I was to the left of the stage a little further back than the jump rope dancers, lovin' every minute of the show. I showed up with no expectations and they blew my mind. I was wearing a tshirt that looked like a cowboy shirt.

westcoastpirate
03-04-2009, 04:31 PM
Infected Mushroom=bunch a bitches

chairmenmeow47
03-04-2009, 05:00 PM
Is the RITM show 18+? I don't think I even saw the venue name in there.

it is not listed. i don't know why, but i assume it has to do with all the controversy surrounding the venue. it's at boo's warehouse across from the icehouse downtown. the icehouse is at like 3rd street and jackson if you've never been there. i understand this venue is now "legitimate", though it used to be illegal and there were raids in the past. i don't know what the "legitimate" name is, all i know is that it's owned by an old man who was convicted for asking a 9 year old to piss on his dick and i am not paying a dime to set foot in such a venue, and have not since people started using it. i also have fears of being arrested at illegal events or events thrown by shady people as i don't want to lose my job or something over that, so i protest the venue. i know there are others who won't be there for the same reason, but it's mainly us older ravers who have kids or decent jobs who don't attend events at the venue. lots of people still go, so i doubt it will affect attendance too much. i'm sure that's more than you wanted to know, but there it is :)

also, the venue used to host a lot of all ages events, but i am pretty sure it's 18+ after all the controversy with 15 year olds in lingerie at that one event clix threw (you remember clix, that promoter that came in here to defend his raver porn honour). i highly, highly doubt this will be 21+.

and kreutz2112, i hope that phoenix promoters are smart enough to make that happen in june!!!!!!!

Somewhat Damaged
03-04-2009, 06:12 PM
So...does anyone have a friend at Myst who can get me into MSTRKRFT for free?

Isn't MSTRKRFT playing the 13th? You aren't going to the Juggalo Mini-Gathering instead? What's wrong with you????

westcoastpirate
03-04-2009, 07:16 PM
I also am looking for a free or cheaper way into Myst on the 13th, does anyone have a hookup? My buddy who's a concierge at a hotel in Scottsdale isn't calling me back, asshole!

mountmccabe
03-04-2009, 07:20 PM
I was to the left of the stage a little further back than the jump rope dancers, lovin' every minute of the show. I showed up with no expectations and they blew my mind. I was wearing a tshirt that looked like a cowboy shirt.

I really was impressed at how they got the crowd into it. I ended up front and center and where I could take these pics:

Project Jenny, Project Jen
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3312/3329893016_d84a174205.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14669732@N07/3329893016/in/set-72157614744169973/)
I didn't find much to enjoy about PJPJ; the mixed/prerecorded music didn't do much for me and the rapping/singing/talking wasn't anything special and wasn't passing on much for lyrics, either. There was a good amount of energy though, and it wasn't bad, just not good.

Fujiya
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3379/3329893944_2a1382cef3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14669732@N07/3329893944/in/set-72157614744169973/)

Miyagi
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3329/3329060705_8d2002dd72.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14669732@N07/3329060705/in/set-72157614744169973)

Last song collaboration
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3335/3329896916_5d7a67ea26.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14669732@N07/3329896916/in/set-72157614744169973)

westcoastpirate
03-04-2009, 07:29 PM
Yeah, PJPJ was weaksauce. But that's alright because F&M more than made up for their performance. The show kicked into high gear once the drummer came on stage 1.5 songs into the set. My wife almost skipped out on the show because she had jury duty the next day. On the car ride home she said she would have been totally pissed if she missed F&M. Good call on her part.

Nice pics by the way!

Mr. Dylanja
03-06-2009, 02:51 PM
First Friday, anyone?

captncrzy
03-06-2009, 03:35 PM
Dylan-I'm in Orlando but Rick is going out to FF tonight and then to a FF party tomorrow night. You should get in touch with him.

chairmenmeow47
03-06-2009, 04:27 PM
So you will be boycotting this then? Unfortunate.

But that is weird they wouldn't mention the venue. Why even have a show that big if you can't advertise because it is illegal. If you hear any more information about it, please let me know.

the venue is legal now, from what i understand. knowing the promoter i had been talking to, they wouldn't do something like this if they didn't have their ducks in a row. i have no clue why it's not listed; maybe it's not confirmed, but i wonder if it has to do with the controversy with the venue regarding boo. when the venue was illegal, the new times did an article (which i believe i posted here) about it and there's been some busts, so they probably don't want people to not come based on the venue alone.

i most likely will not be there. i probably could get talked into going if i were confident on the legality, but i just hate the idea of supporting that fucking pedophile. i have issues with our the rave scene is related to pedophiles and i feel like working with this venue owner only adds to those concerns; especially since there are pics of him with like 15 year old raver girls in lingerie, regardless of what ACTUALLY happening, it makes us look bad. so i'm still on the fence because it sounds like a dope party, i just have moral objections to going.

and i don't think i can get you into myst for free, but drum-core mentioned presale tickets for $10 here:

http://www.drum-core.com/board/showthread.php?p=139714#post139714

i might know someone who could get you on a reduced cover list, but that's about it.

and no first fridays for me, i'm fucking exhausted and will probably be spending another night being paranoid about our house being robbed the other day while we were at work.

amyzzz
03-06-2009, 04:30 PM
your house was robbed??

chairmenmeow47
03-06-2009, 04:38 PM
yeah, i came home wednesday night and my roommate was standing outside by the front door (her and her boyfriend park in the back of our condo and enter the back door while i park in the general parking area and enter the front door). she was on the phone with the cops. she came home and saw a small break in the window of our back door, which is near the handle so they were able to just break in and open the door.

thankfully no one was home. they only took quick things that were easy to sell. at first we all thought they had targeted our house for bill's music studio, but that was left untouched. thankfully they were pretty clean about it and didn't ransack the place or break anything.

they stole the following:


my roommate's laptop that she has never backed up and that has no password protection for anything
her old cell phone
our house phone
my laptop which was last backed up before switzerland, so i have most stuff, but some things are just GONE. thankfully you had to login with a password to use my computer and my financial docs are password protected.
my sony ipod docking station clock radio thing my dad had gotten me for xmas
bill's xbox 360
his PS3
his WII
and a handful of video games & a pillow case. i think they got spooked while taking games, cause they only took a few when there's a lot of games & dvds & blu ray shit out there.


i feel ok about the stuff; my laptop was 3 years old anyways, but i just haven't been able to sleep knowing there were people in my room. plus, there's this big window right by my bed and that scares me. i've had a lot of trauma in the past, so situations like this put me back in paranoia mode. i can't help but worry they saw all our studio shit and bill's expensive stuff and they'll want to come back. or that they'll see our pictures and want us girls or something, paranoid, i know, but crazy shit like that happens to me so i can't just rule it out. i slept on the floor away from the window that night. last night it took me awhile to crash in the bed, but i finally started to and half the power in my room went out with this really loud noise which left me hiding under the covers crying & clutching my cell phone. i had almost called into work that day and it scares me because if i am home alone, there's no indication like a car parked out front so people could break in with me there. ARGH! i know i'm paranoid :(

i just hope tonight i am a bit better. i'm fine at work, but at home i just feel really scared and i don't like it. i hope we get the house secure soon. my poor roommate also got laid off this week, i feel really bad for her :(

no laptop so i'll be MIA pretty much all weekend, on my home, have a good one :)