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Old 04-28-2008, 12:10 PM   #31
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Prince was pretty fucking phenomenal.
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Some in here are really ignorant. That long ass jam was a fantastic rendition of Santana's Soul sacrifice mixed with other Santana riffs. You just dont recognise greatness if it stares you in the face...
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best performance I've ever seen.

Radiohead at the Bowl, sorry but Prince just stole that spot.

The whole thing was incredible. The build up, Opening with Jungele Love, everything. I can't believe how close I got.

still blown away.
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:46 PM   #34
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Long time Coachella go-er, first time posting here. I'm glad that quite a few people here enjoyed Prince's show, but I want to post my issue with it.

When I heard Prince would be at Coachella, I was excited, but also nervous. Prince is phenomenally talented, and completely capable of putting together an amazing rock show geared toward Coachella's sweet spot, and anyone who did not know this was simply ignorant. However, those claiming him to be completely separate from the Janet Jacksons of the world aren't being honest. Prince has made a lot of music that is pretty clearly not a different animal than what teenyboppers produce.

Obviously, while he did push his performance toward Coachella to some degree, on the whole he did his pop thing. And to me, that stuff has no more place at Coachella than Justin Timberlake does. Clearly Golden Voice wanted to have a really, really big artist, more than they wanted somebody who fit in with the niche Coachella has built for itself. My statement to them thus is that I'm disappointed, and I very much hope they don't go further in this direction.
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comparing prince to a teen pop princess is just stupid, that guy has more talent in one of his pubes than all the pop bitches combined.

and coachella is about pushing the boundaries, not being confined by any.
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im not going to waste my time reading the rest of this thread, but i would just like to take this time to tell you how bad of taste you have, and that prince destroyed that shit, possibly more than any other artist i have seen there, with the exception of a small few. it really is his house now, and anybody who thinks different should get a nice backhand slap, like a whore getting slapped by her pimp for being a dumb bitch.


ps. i wasnt even into prince before this weekend...
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Prince was great. My napping was simply a reaction to how much he overwhelmed me.

Morris Day, Sheila E = fucking fantastic - I find it silly how these "children" couldn't recognize that as his music. Yes, the comparison to Janet Jackson is a real knee slapper. And - he's a fucking great guitar player. I could keep going, but I figure I'm just stating the obvious.
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comparing prince to a teen pop princess is just stupid, that guy has more talent in one of his pubes than all the pop bitches combined.

and coachella is about pushing the boundaries, not being confined by any.
Look if you liked Prince's performance, that's great. Beyond that, I certainly know that no one is dying to hear my particular opinion. If I'm the only who feels the way I do, so be it.

Now with that clear, note that I already acknowledged how bloody talented Prince is. That doesn't change the fact that Prince has primarily made his career about being a pop artist and so comparing him to pop artists when he performs music designed to make him a pop artist isn't just reasonable, it's what obviously needs to be done.

As far as pushing boundaries, moving toward pop is not pushing boundaries, it is regressing back to the mean. After all it's certainly not the case that artists like Paul Oakenfold and Rage Against the Machine are in one little bubble, and Prince is daring us to break out of that.
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I don't know about you guys, but I had a great time during Prince.
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Prince has a new web address. It is for anyone suffering from a buzz. Check it out, www.princeisabuzzkill.com
...that's not a really web address, and it's not for a reason. And that reason is because Prince was awesome.
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i taped the entire "shh" performance. It came out beautiful, I'll have the video up later. Gave me chills watching it again.

I seriously thought my body was going to explode when he opened with a Jungle Love Jam. I love how he warmed up the crowd for 20 minutes, playing behind speakers to give full attention to his band/Morris day.

The tightest band of musicians i've ever seen. Seriously the greatest show I have ever seen.
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Look if you liked Prince's performance, that's great. Beyond that, I certainly know that no one is dying to hear my particular opinion. If I'm the only who feels the way I do, so be it.

Now with that clear, note that I already acknowledged how bloody talented Prince is. That doesn't change the fact that Prince has primarily made his career about being a pop artist and so comparing him to pop artists when he performs music designed to make him a pop artist isn't just reasonable, it's what obviously needs to be done.

As far as pushing boundaries, moving toward pop is not pushing boundaries, it is regressing back to the mean. After all it's certainly not the case that artists like Paul Oakenfold and Rage Against the Machine are in one little bubble, and Prince is daring us to break out of that.
i think coachella is not only about pushing the boundaries, but showing that there are no boundaries. that good music, is good fuckin music, no matter if it pop, rock, electro, whatever. prince showed that just because its "pop" doesnt mean its necessarily bad. all you pretentious indie scenesters that think it has to be some underground shit to be good just got your asses handed to you by prince and gv. i dont care how you want to classify it, it was epic, and if you were too busy thinking that the music was too mainstream to have a good time, than i feel sorry for you.
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i think coachella is not only about pushing the boundaries, but showing that there are no boundaries. that good music, is good fuckin music, no matter if it pop, rock, electro, whatever. prince showed that just because its "pop" doesnt mean its necessarily bad. all you pretentious indie scenesters that think it has to be some underground shit to be good just got your asses handed to you by prince and gv. i dont care how you want to classify it, it was epic, and if you were too busy thinking that the music was too mainstream to have a good time, than i feel sorry for you.
Hmm. If you are someone who thinks that there really is no bad music, that everything has something about it that can be enjoyed, then you've got a point. (if you think there is "good" and "bad" music, and that everything Prince did was "good", then you're being silly).

For me what it comes down to is that I want interesting music, more so than anything else. I stopped buying music because it was "good" quite a while ago, because the truth is, it's all good. Every year, I drag myself out to the god awful heat in the desert, because I want to hear music that's reaching beyond what Ryan Seacrest is promoting. If Coachella ceases to satisfy me in that regard, I might as well stay home where I can here the same stuff for far less money in far more comfortable surroundings.
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What I got from his performance was that he was a great guitarist and musician, but definitely out of place at Coachella. Also, coming on stage half an hour late was a bit of a buzzkill. No hate, just what I gathered.
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Hmm. If you are someone who thinks that there really is no bad music, that everything has something about it that can be enjoyed, then you've got a point. (if you think there is "good" and "bad" music, and that everything Prince did was "good", then you're being silly).

For me what it comes down to is that I want interesting music, more so than anything else. I stopped buying music because it was "good" quite a while ago, because the truth is, it's all good. Every year, I drag myself out to the god awful heat in the desert, because I want to hear music that's reaching beyond what Ryan Seacrest is promoting. If Coachella ceases to satisfy me in that regard, I might as well stay home where I can here the same stuff for far less money in far more comfortable surroundings.
i am definitely not saying that all music is good. all i am saying is that what makes it good or bad should not depend on what genre it is in. just because somebody makes some great music that happens to be loved by the masses, that doesnt make it bad. i love all the groundbreaking music at coachella too, just like you. but at the same time i can appreciate a mind blowing pop set from an icon like prince. i did not have high expectations going into it, but the funk, combined with all those amazing guitar solos he busted out just made me realize WHY he is such an icon. that was one of the funnest shows ive seen in a while.
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What I got from his performance was that he was a great guitarist and musician, but definitely out of place at Coachella. Also, coming on stage half an hour late was a bit of a buzzkill. No hate, just what I gathered.
Half hour late? Who the fuck cares? Guns and Roses went on an hour late for their entire career, and everyone thought that was cool.

In the future of Coachella, there will not be a better headliner show than Prince on Saturday night. There may be some that equal it, like Roger Waters & Radiohead, but none will surpass.

What's going to be the big surprise for year 10? Bowie, Talking Heads, U2? They will not top that show. (in my opinion)

And that's part of the dilemma for Goldenvoice; the need to "top themselves." I think those days are over, especially considering that there are 15 major music festivals in the US, so there is nothing exclusive anymore.
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:13 PM   #48
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prince man...

he is the best performer/guitar player still doing it right now.

he blew my mind.

i think anyone that did not enjoy probably didn't because you are a) too young to be familiar with the music b) one of those people with a corn cob up their ass that won't allow themselve to just let go and have a good time.

prince isn't a musical revolutionary like waters and may not stand the test of time like radiohead most likely will but fucking prince is 100% unadulterated fun. i can't imagine them getting a headliner that will be more fun than him ever.

but we will see what next year brings...michael jackson?
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i am definitely not saying that all music is good. all i am saying is that what makes it good or bad should not depend on what genre it is in. just because somebody makes some great music that happens to be loved by the masses, that doesnt make it bad. i love all the groundbreaking music at coachella too, just like you. but at the same time i can appreciate a mind blowing pop set from an icon like prince. i did not have high expectations going into it, but the funk, combined with all those amazing guitar solos he busted out just made me realize WHY he is such an icon. that was one of the funnest shows ive seen in a while.
I completely agree genre does not make music good or bad. As I've said, it's all good, but different music has different goals. If you want something that doesn't provoke thought, and doesn't challenge you, but rather simply provides a pleasant sound, then you want pop music. What I want from Coachella, is something more than that.

So let's be clear about what Prince is, and what he is not. Prince is a phenomenally talented musician capable of creating art that goes far beyond pleasantness. He is not however an artist who has dedicated his career simply toward creating such art. He has made a lot of music that is geared simply at out-popping pop artists. He's entitled to do this of course, but everyone looking at this music honestly should be able to see that just because it has a musical prodigy's hands on it, does not make it any greater than if it were a factory produced Britney Spears hit. I object not to having Prince the genius perform at Coachella, but at having him perform material that is merely pleasant.
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Half hour late? Who the fuck cares? Guns and Roses went on an hour late for their entire career, and everyone thought that was cool.
Are you kidding? Everyone hated that. GNR and Prince are talented enough to get away with it, but that doesn't mean people don't get irritated at them.
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Prince was the single most greatest performer to ever perform on that stage. He owned that stage. Just like he said from now on that was Princes stage. It was. Roger Waters was good and even breath taking, but you could not walk away from Prince on stage. I did to Roger Waters (and actually wished I didnt, Justice was WEAK WEAK WEAK...)
No other performer has matched the 2 hours of pure genius that was Prince.

All I gotta say is his performance of Creep killed anything before it, and everything after it.
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And in the words of Fatboy Slim - Prince and the Revoultion, just a band.
Go ahead and reply with your rant about how EDM is nothing but the same beat over and over.
Fatboy Slim is a DJ, and he has no words. The quote Norman (Fatboy Slim) used was from Dan le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip. And EDM is the same beat over and over.

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Oh, and Prince was good. He did kill it.
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Prince on guitar was amazing, and I heard someone up there say they were dissapointed and left in the first 20 minutes...shoulda stayed, your loss. I loved the intro with Morris Day and The Time, never expected that and the cover of "creep" was great too! yeah he started off slow and I think the morris day part should have remained but the Sheila E. portion could have gone and we would have had more Prince on ten minutes earlier.

everyone I talked to LOVED princes set, so I dont know where you found these people that just hated it...sounds like a bunch of teenagers only interested in one specific sound.
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Plenty of people walked away. That's not a huge indictment as that happens to basically every Coachella act, but there were visible lines of people leaving the Coachella stage not that long after Prince started playing.
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Plenty of people walked away. That's not a huge indictment as that happens to basically every Coachella act, but there were visible lines of people leaving the Coachella stage not that long after Prince started playing.
thats beacause most of those people dont even like prince and were only slightly curious about it. those that waited more than 15 minutes and saw the whole show would have loved it, everyone around me was dancing.
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Um. Did you actually see the show? Prince was fucking INSANE! I mean, he fucking covered Radiohead's CREEP for Christ sake.

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...but i would just like to take this time to tell you how bad of taste you have, and that prince destroyed that shit... it really is his house now, and anybody who thinks different should get a nice backhand slap, like a whore getting slapped by her pimp for being a dumb bitch.
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the late start and long wait for Prince to actually SING just about killed my enjoyment. But then he pulled Creep out of his ass and I recovered. His guitar skills are incredible and that DANCING!
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