Thread for Me And Pot To Go Va-Tech On Each Other

[J~$$$]

withdrawl never fully ends IMO. It fades in and out of the background.
If I didn't live in California I'm not sure I could be a non-smoker.

The basis of our disagreement is that you distringuish a "brain's thrist" with a "mind's thirst".

This is a bit extreme, but your emotions at their most basic level are really just chemical reactions. Every emotion you've ever had was your brain's direct or indirect reaction to a chemical stimulus.

My lust for you is not real?

[I'm Rosetta Stoned]

There are 2 kinds of addiction. A physical which includes withdraws and a mental addiction which is harder to define. I have a mental addiction to smoking ciggs. If I am busy or its hot I dont smoke nor have the desire to do so. I can go a long time without smoking. Its when I am bored, get off of work, on a break, waiting for class ect. Breaking this kind of addiction is hard but I think phat once you do you are cured. On the other hand I have a phsyical addiction to cocain. This is a real addiction.

[J~$$$]

oh man your back? I give it 15 min.

[thelastgreatman]

withdrawl never fully ends IMO. It fades in and out of the background.
If I didn't live in California I'm not sure I could be a non-smoker.

The basis of our disagreement is that you distringuish a "brain's thrist" with a "mind's thirst".

This is a bit extreme, but your emotions at their most basic level are really just chemical reactions. Every emotion you've ever had was your brain's direct or indirect reaction to a chemical stimulus.

no, I fully agree with you about emotions being chemical. For example, love is just another addiction, according to pheremone study.

What I am talking about though is reason, not emotion. Addiction is an emotional experience (if we stipulate that emotions=chemicals), but choice could be defined here as one's ability to deny what their emotions want.

[bassmintpdx]

If you continue to represent yourself as a b-grade Burroughs I will continue to be a dick. Deal? Hugs.

this is one of the greatest quotes ever typed

Lol yeah, that's awesome.

[thelastgreatman]

There are 2 kinds of addiction. A physical which includes withdraws and a mental addiction which is harder to define. I have a mental addiction to smoking ciggs. If I am busy or its hot I dont smoke nor have the desire to do so. I can go a long time without smoking. Its when I am bored, get off of work, on a break, waiting for class ect. Breaking this kind of addiction is hard but I think phat once you do you are cured. On the other hand I have a phsyical addiction to cocain. This is a real addiction.

Actually, there is no physical addiction to cocaine. Withdrawl from coke lasts less than two days at the absolute tops, it doesn't build up a dependency in your body's chemistry the way that heroin or benzos do. Cocaine addictions are pretty much entirely mental, but once again--it is the mental addiction that is the hardest thing to beat, not the chemical.

[Caitlin]

Ohhh, now this is an interesting read.

[thelastgreatman]

Also, Burroughs is a relatively shitty skag writer. At least call me a b-grade Welsh.

[codytwo]

There are 2 kinds of addiction. A physical which includes withdraws and a mental addiction which is harder to define. I have a mental addiction to smoking ciggs. If I am busy or its hot I dont smoke nor have the desire to do so. I can go a long time without smoking. Its when I am bored, get off of work, on a break, waiting for class ect. Breaking this kind of addiction is hard but I think phat once you do you are cured. On the other hand I have a phsyical addiction to cocain. This is a real addiction.

This is not true. Professionals in teh field do not differentiate between the two. Just ask Dr. Drew. Addiction in the medical sense has to do with reliance on elevated levels of specific neurotransmitters. But at the level that these changes occur, from my understanding of the issue, differentiating between a mental process and a physical one becoems an exercise in absurdityl.

[thelastgreatman]

This is not true. Professionals in teh field do not differentiate between the two. Just ask Dr. Drew. Addiction in the medical sense has to do with reliance on elevated levels of specific neurotransmitters. But at the level that these changes occur, from my understanding of the issue, differentiating between a mental process and a physical one becoems an exercise in absurdityl.

Inaccurate, Dr. Drew or not, although I suspect that you've just gotten a slightly muddled view of the fairly true aspect that the two are extremely intertwined. But there is a very distinct difference between actual chemical DEPENDENCY--your body's reliance on said chemical that causes withdrawl--and the addiction (or addictive tendencies in my own theory) that stays with you long after the withdrawl. But like I said, I disagree with a lot of the authorities on addiction about certain aspects of this matter, Dr. Drew would be coming from the "disease" perspective.

[Caitlin]

This is not true. Professionals in teh field do not differentiate between the two. Just ask Dr. Drew. Addiction in the medical sense has to do with reliance on elevated levels of specific neurotransmitters. But at the level that these changes occur, from my understanding of the issue, differentiating between a mental process and a physical one becoems an exercise in absurdityl.

I think there is most certainly a difference between the two. I don't feel marijuana is addicting in a physical sense. My friends could quit if they really wanted to. However, they have a mental addiction to it that has a lot to do with repitition. For example, we as humans need food to survive and so one could say we have a food addiction because our body is constantly giving off that "FEED ME" signal to our brains. This, IMO, is because of constant repitition. I feel this is an entirely different situation than that of a physical addiction to substances such as heroin, alcohol, etc.

[TomAz]

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[amyzzz]

What's with the Latin?

[I'm Rosetta Stoned]

A better way to describe it is like a "habbit addiction". Thats how I describe my smoking addiction. I smoke to waste time I guess and over the years I just kept the habbit but, I am not addicted to smoking. My other addiction is like an alcoholics addiction. Thats the one that lasts a lifetime and that I'm always going to battle all my life.

[amyzzz]

Is "habbit" a female hobbit?

[Hannahrain]

What's with the Latin?

It's not latin. It's Lorem Ipsum, which is a dummy text used to demonstrate layout and font.

Although it has latin roots.

[TomAz]

What's with the Latin?

My fake latin > greatman's endless prattling

[J~$$$]

amy made a funny.

[TomAz]

yeah the 'habbit' made me chuckle too.

[amyzzz]

It's not latin. It's Lorem Ipsum, which is a dummy text used to demonstrate layout and font.

Ah. I never took Latin. It just looked that way.

[TomAz]

it's supposed to look that way.

oddly, it looks like Latin but is called 'greeking'.

[Caitlin]

This thread makes me want a drink. ;x

[mountmccabe]

It's not latin. It's Lorem Ipsum, which is a dummy text used to demonstrate layout and font.

Although it has latin roots.

Whoah. Something useful/interesting in this thread.

[thelastgreatman]

Would you care to actually constructively respond to anything, Tom? Or just act like a big ol' cunt per your usual routine? Or do you just prefer to take the easy way out when you know you won't win the argument?

[TomAz]

Would you care to actually constructively respond to anything, Tom? Or just act like a big ol' cunt per your usual routine? Or do you just prefer to take the easy way out when you know you won't win the argument?

"Arguing" with you would be as pointless as arguing with a dust mote.

[I'm Rosetta Stoned]

This thread makes me want a drink. ;x

LoL this is comedy! Addiction is hard to explain to someone who has never delt with it. Every addict is different and addiction isnt black and white like science makes it out to be. Its complicated and in this country addiction is a term used to freely imo.

[J~$$$]

"Arguing" with you would be as pointless as arguing with a dust mote.

snaps. snaps. and more snaps.

[Caitlin]

LoL this is comedy! Addiction is hard to explain to someone who has never delt with it. Every addict is different and addiction isnt black and white like science makes it out to be. Its complicated and in this country addiction is a term used to freely imo.

Believe me, I know. I grew up with an alcoholic mother. I think another word for addiction would be desperation.

[Yablonowitz]

Inaccurate, Dr. Drew or not, although I suspect that you've just gotten a slightly muddled view of the fairly true aspect that the two are extremely intertwined. But there is a very distinct difference between actual chemical DEPENDENCY--your body's reliance on said chemical that causes withdrawl--and the addiction (or addictive tendencies in my own theory) that stays with you long after the withdrawl. But like I said, I disagree with a lot of the authorities on addiction about certain aspects of this matter, Dr. Drew would be coming from the "disease" perspective.

Bottom line here is that our thoughts and desires are not completely under our control. It's called being human. Thoughts, habits, decisions, ideas....it comes from the body it's as physical as it is mental. Mental is physical. But I agree with tom, what's the fucking point of arguing with you when say shit about how you USED to be an addict but you're not expecting to live to 35 because of how you choose to live your life, eschewing the stifling "real world" for something PROFOUNDLY more interesting. Go blow yourself. You live for yourself. That's it.

You don't need to get our acceptance or agreement for your own narcissism.

[Hannahrain]