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    At Coachella - weekend one, Win Butler from Arcade Fire blasted the Coachella Festival Promoters for their VIP debacle. I was there, I was VIP, I felt ripped off. Coachella is trying to fly under the radar with their recently diminished VIP passes and the losers are the festival goers that unwittingly paid the premium price. A VIP pass purchased in 2014 does not provide access to the premium viewing area next to the Coachella Stage as it did in recent years. The areas in front of the stages are exclusive for VIP Special Guest and Artist. During my Week One 3 day VIP experience I was never granted access to any special viewing areas (such as the area by the Coachella stage).

    The VIP purchase can be misleading...There are 2 basic passes available on the sale page; General Admission for $375 and VIP for $799. Since (1) there is not a pass sold called VIP “Special Guest”, (2) VIP passes are double the price therefore you expect to receive double the experience, (3) festivals at the same caliber of Coachella offer VIP viewing areas, (4) VIP used to include access to the viewing area next to the Coachella Stage, and (5) there is no warning that the VIP pass is diminished or that the Special Guest designation is granted by "powers that be" to the elite, family, friends, one could easily be fooled that VIP is the pass you need to purchase to access the premium viewing areas.

    The web site is clear that Coachella VIP passes grants you access to 2 VIP areas for drinking, eating, and bathrooms. If you are going to Coachella for convenient upfront and close viewing of your favorite bands, VIP DOES NOT PROVIDE YOU ANY BENEFIT. If you want a worthy VIP experience, I suggest you look into Bonnaroo (Tenn), SASQUATCH! (Wash), Outside Lands Music and Arts Festival (San Francisco), Lollapalooza (Chicago), Snowball Music Festival (Denver) …they all provide special viewing platforms or viewing areas.

    If you are not going for the live artist experience, the $141 per day premium will allow you to sit in a VIP drinking area all day long. Between all the conversations going on by folks not listening to the music, you can still hear the music from a local remote speaker. Over 3 days I visited the VIP areas 5 times for a quick drink, quick food, and bathroom break. VIP fell enormously short of double the experience.

    These are entirely my observations and opinions and I encourage you to thoroughly investigate what the VIP pass offers and I warn you not to make any assumptions based on past Coachella experiences or what their competitors are offering. Coachella isn't keeping up with other high visibility festivals. Bummer for them and us!

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    VIP has NEVER been allowed in the guest area at the front of stages. A few security guards may have let people in by mistake, but they weren't supposed to. The fact that it doesn't list viewing area access should be enough to let you know it is not available. If it was don't you think it would be one of the first things mentioned in regards to amenities? I love that VIP costs $800 and all it gets you is access to a couple "VIP" areas. Anyone that has to pay for VIP is not technically a VIP. Sorry for your entitlement. Nowhere on the site does it say you get access to any special viewing area. You know this before you buy. You have no one to blame but yourself.
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    Wait, I think I know this song? Is this the one where we bitch about VIP and if its worth it and why would people pay for it?
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    the description of VIP is on the website and completely accurate. and has not changed in many years. if anything, the last time it changed was when the ROSE GARDEN was ADDED.
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    wah wah wah. if you're not riding dirty then you're doing it completely wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chella Bella View Post
    (4) VIP used to include access to the viewing area next to the Coachella Stage
    When was that actually the case?

    (5) there is no warning that the VIP pass is diminished or that the Special Guest designation is granted by "powers that be" to the elite, family, friends, one could easily be fooled that VIP is the pass you need to purchase to access the premium viewing areas.
    You can also get access to the viewing areas if you buy a Safari Tent, win Carpoolchella, are a celebrity, or know someone.


    The web site is clear that Coachella VIP passes grants you access to 2 VIP areas for drinking, eating, and bathrooms. If you are going to Coachella for convenient upfront and close viewing of your favorite bands, VIP DOES NOT PROVIDE YOU ANY BENEFIT.
    Does the website tell you that you get upfront viewing? No. You could also search here and find many threads about the waste of money that a VIP ticket is. People pay for it, so they sell it. It sells out every year. It sold out before the festival started selling out. I don't blame the promoters. There's no deception here. Caveat emptor. Knowing what you're paying for before you fork over more than double the cash is on you, not them.

    If you want a worthy VIP experience, I suggest you look into Bonnaroo (Tenn), SASQUATCH! (Wash), Outside Lands Music and Arts Festival (San Francisco), Lollapalooza (Chicago), Snowball Music Festival (Denver) …they all provide special viewing platforms or viewing areas. If you are not going for the live artist experience, the $141 per day premium will allow you to sit in a VIP drinking area all day long. Between all the conversations going on by folks not listening to the music, you can still hear the music from a local remote speaker. Over 3 days I visited the VIP areas 5 times for a quick drink, quick food, and bathroom break. VIP fell enormously short of double the experience.
    A bonaroo VIP ticket is $1500. Their regular tickets top out at under $300. So you're paying for 5X the experience there. I'd say access to up front viewing IS 5X the experience. It's not 2X. You were expecting too much.
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    you really signed up for the forums just to write this essay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychic friend View Post
    the description of VIP is on the website and completely accurate. and has not changed in many years. if anything, the last time it changed was when the ROSE GARDEN was ADDED.
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    Paying an extra 4 hundred bucks to go to the festival does not make you a very important person in my books. It makes you fucking stupid. Smooth moves.
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    I love that this dipshit doesn't understand what Win was actually saying.
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    I bet Win didn't even use the posh VIP bathrooms.
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    It's been a while since Win Butler has been right about anything, judging by the last two Arcade Fire albums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chella Bella View Post
    At Coachella - weekend one, Win Butler from Arcade Fire blasted the Coachella Festival Promoters for their VIP debacle. I was there, I was VIP, I felt ripped off. Coachella is trying to fly under the radar with their recently diminished VIP passes and the losers are the festival goers that unwittingly paid the premium price. A VIP pass purchased in 2014 does not provide access to the premium viewing area next to the Coachella Stage as it did in recent years. The areas in front of the stages are exclusive for VIP Special Guest and Artist. During my Week One 3 day VIP experience I was never granted access to any special viewing areas (such as the area by the Coachella stage).

    The VIP purchase can be misleading...There are 2 basic passes available on the sale page; General Admission for $375 and VIP for $799. Since (1) there is not a pass sold called VIP “Special Guest”, (2) VIP passes are double the price therefore you expect to receive double the experience, (3) festivals at the same caliber of Coachella offer VIP viewing areas, (4) VIP used to include access to the viewing area next to the Coachella Stage, and (5) there is no warning that the VIP pass is diminished or that the Special Guest designation is granted by "powers that be" to the elite, family, friends, one could easily be fooled that VIP is the pass you need to purchase to access the premium viewing areas.

    The web site is clear that Coachella VIP passes grants you access to 2 VIP areas for drinking, eating, and bathrooms. If you are going to Coachella for convenient upfront and close viewing of your favorite bands, VIP DOES NOT PROVIDE YOU ANY BENEFIT. If you want a worthy VIP experience, I suggest you look into Bonnaroo (Tenn), SASQUATCH! (Wash), Outside Lands Music and Arts Festival (San Francisco), Lollapalooza (Chicago), Snowball Music Festival (Denver) …they all provide special viewing platforms or viewing areas.

    If you are not going for the live artist experience, the $141 per day premium will allow you to sit in a VIP drinking area all day long. Between all the conversations going on by folks not listening to the music, you can still hear the music from a local remote speaker. Over 3 days I visited the VIP areas 5 times for a quick drink, quick food, and bathroom break. VIP fell enormously short of double the experience.

    These are entirely my observations and opinions and I encourage you to thoroughly investigate what the VIP pass offers and I warn you not to make any assumptions based on past Coachella experiences or what their competitors are offering. Coachella isn't keeping up with other high visibility festivals. Bummer for them and us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twattycakes View Post
    Paying an extra 4 hundred bucks to go to the festival does not make you a very important person in my books. It makes you fucking stupid. Smooth moves.
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    I love that this dipshit doesn't understand what Win was actually saying.
    This.

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    Hashtag dumb cash cow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chella Bella View Post

    The web site is clear that Coachella VIP passes grants you access to 2 VIP areas for drinking, eating, and bathrooms.
    I get to stand in line for Spicy Pie and crap in a dirty porta-potie. Not such a bad gig since I have an extra $400 in my pocket by not buying VIP!

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    i guess i won't be doing VIP next year

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    My only complaint about VIP is that it's not expensive enough. Next year boost the price to $2500 per pass. Make the talent agencies and the other cultural moneychangers really feel that burn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twattycakes View Post
    Paying an extra 4 hundred bucks to go to the festival does not make you a very important person in my books. It makes you fucking stupid. Smooth moves.
    totally! i know to each their own..but i don't see how people actually want to buy vip passes..i guess if you really want to sit on a couch in the shade for all money? lolz i've never had to wait to more than 3-5 min(being generous) for food or drinks..plus you can't see shit in the vip area near the main stage..just hilarious to me..i actually had friends go vip this year and they got upset when win went on his rant haha
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    This topic never goes anywhere. If it makes you feel better they can change the name of that ticket to GA Plus. Even when you are in VIP it's clear you aren't VIP. Guest passes, safari passes, artists passes, production passes are VIP. So let's say I'm cool with paying an extra 4 bills per ticket for access to areas that allow me to be slightly less resourceful in times of need. A slight bit of comfort a touch of higher end options and a quiet, clean place to escape, can all be nice when you are putting in the effort to hang in the desert all day. Call it something else if that makes you feel better. It's not VIP till you have the connections or the 6500 for a pair of guest passes.

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    VIP bathrooms were JUST as shitty as the regular portapottys. The amazing bathrooms were the Rose garden ones. and only those.

    VIP meant:
    quick entrance, quick exit.
    Shorter lines for food and bathrooms.
    quick interactions with Celebs.
    option to purchase liquor
    an extra place to chill and lay out.
    extra Samsung tent that always had batteries when the normal Samsung tent would run out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinclair View Post
    This topic never goes anywhere. If it makes you feel better they can change the name of that ticket to GA Plus. Even when you are in VIP it's clear you aren't VIP. .
    Here is the bottom line. If you are paying for VIP, you're not VIP.
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    Liquor is available outside of the VIP area, that's no longer a bonus.

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    VIP is not, never has, and never will be for people who care one iota about any of the music taking place, and I'm really not sure why it takes comments from some indie rock band lead singer in 2014 to make this public knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by microcuts View Post
    VIP is not, never has, and never will be for people who care one iota about any of the music taking place, and I'm really not sure why it takes comments from some indie rock band lead singer in 2014 to make this public knowledge.
    This is a small minded comment. My wife and I both love the music and are highly dedicated.
    As I stated before, its entirely about convenience. Its not that I cant find liquor, good food, clean space to relax or bathrooms if I hunt (as noted in my weekend 2, day 2 review) Its just that when I want them, I know I can go to the two VIP areas and get them with little to no wait. Its that convenience that I am paying for.
    However, we spend 90% of our time outside of the VIP in the music that we love, its solely about what we do that other 10% of the time that is worth it to us.

    Like I said, I dont feel VIP or think I'm VIP, thats just what that type of access is called. If anything Coachella should change the name of the product to something else so it doesnt carry with it some bullshit label that causes drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by microcuts View Post
    VIP is not, never has, and never will be for people who care one iota about any of the music taking place, and I'm really not sure why it takes comments from some indie rock band lead singer in 2014 to make this public knowledge.
    This is a small minded comment. My wife and I both love the music and are highly dedicated.
    As I stated before, its entirely about convenience. Its not that I cant find liquor, good food, clean space to relax or bathrooms if I hunt (as noted in my weekend 2, day 2 review) Its just that when I want them, I know I can go to the two VIP areas and get them with little to no wait. Its that convenience that I am paying for.
    However, we spend 90% of our time outside of the VIP in the music that we love, its solely about what we do that other 10% of the time that is worth it to us.

    Like I said, I dont feel VIP or think I'm VIP, thats just what that type of access is called. If anything Coachella should change the name of the product to something else so it doesnt carry with it some bullshit label that causes drama.

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    I think the fact that you only use the VIP area as a temporary safe haven for the amenities it offers and not as a place to spend every waking hour of your day in to use solely as a means to have a networking wank session with other people from various corporations who didn't pay a dime to get into said VIP section shows that I clearly wasn't really talking about you with the whole 'not caring about music' statement. VIP at Coachella is not at all different than VIP at literally any other event.
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    Ain't that the damn truth.


    Quote Originally Posted by captncrzy View Post
    Here is the bottom line. If you are paying for VIP, you're not VIP.
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