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    36 days until spring training, time for the new thread.

    Dodgers sign Donny Baseball to multi-year contract extension.
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    This is the year.

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    They start serious contention in 2015, I think.
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    Default Re: The 2014 MLB Thread

    Also predicted here:



    2015 is your year.
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    serious contention. every year is our year, especially 1908.
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    yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaah!
    This ain't no middle of the mall shit.

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    serious contention. every year is our year, especially 1908.
    2017 thats when itll happen. But I do think we have a chance to be in the running of a WC spot until the all star break, then completely crumble and sell everything we got. I just want to see baez by june and bryant in august.
    you are soooooooo good lookin

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    Let the Rick Renteria era begin!
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    Also really want tanaka!!!
    you are soooooooo good lookin

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    I'm gonna guess the Dice-K experience (and general sense of patience he's currently exhibiting) will keep Theo away from Tanaka.
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    Forever lol at Maddux not being unanimously voted into the Hall of Fame.


    EDIT* I get it. Gurnick is "taking a stand." Very admirable, Ken.
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    Cal Ripken was the ultimate "what the fuck" non-unanimous vote. In a crowd of douchebag sportswriters, there's always one douchebag who will try to outshine the rest. Though I do appreciate the logic of not voting for all-time statistical great Maddux because he played in the "steroid" era, while simultaneously voting for marginal candidate Jack Morris (and only Jack Morris!) because he played in a total non-steriod era that was completely free of Bash Brothers or their ilk.
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    Bill Conlan, former baseball writer in Philadelphia, left Nolan Ryan off of his ballot because "If I had to choose a pitcher to start Game 7 of the World Series, it wouldn't be Nolan Ryan." So one pitcher should be in the Hall of Fame? I heard this story years ago, and was blown away.

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    The first ballot is for guys who pitched 8 or more no hitters.
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    I have no problem with Ken Gurinick's taking a stand. It's good that he's going to abstain in future ballots. But to call Maddux "PED-era" and Morris not seems completely arbitrary. their careers overlapped by like 9 years or something.
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    Exactly

    Ken Gurnick’s Hall of Fame ballot is perhaps the laziest and most willfully ignorant ever

    Jack Morris played through 1994. His career overlapped with nine of Greg Maddux’s seasons, including three of his four Cy Young seasons. So that either means that Gurnick thinks Maddux actually used PEDs while Morris did not or he has zero grasp on the concept of eras or what “the period of PED use” actually was. He’s making a distinction between Morris and Maddux (and Glavine and every other player on the ballot) that is not grounded in any sort of sense at all.

    I don’t know when the first player took steroids, but it was certainly before Jack Morris retired. Indeed, Jack Morris’ signature accomplishment — winning Game 7 of the World Series with a ten-inning shutout — came in 1991. By 1991 Barry Bonds had an MVP Award and Roger Clemens had three Cy Young Awards and an MVP. Jose Canseco had hit 209 homers, won an MVP award and had been booed for steroid use. Mark McGwire had hit 178 home runs. Indeed, the Bash Brothers only had 97 games left together when Morris won Game 7 of the 1991 World Series. Over half of Jack Morris’ wins came from Jose Canseco’s rookie year (1986) on.
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    Speaking of Maddux...


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    This is the year.

    Hey Cubs fans, remember when you had Greg Maddux and let him get away because your GM decided to pursue Candy Maldanado instead?
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    These mofos shoulda won it all




    1989 Chicago Cubs Roster


    45 Paul Assenmacher
    36 Mike Bielecki
    51 Kevin Blankenship
    39 Paul Kilgus
    43 Joe Kraemer
    50 Les Lancaster
    31 Greg Maddux
    37 Pat Perry
    41 Jeff Pico
    21 Scott Sanderson
    32 Calvin Schiraldi
    40 Rick Sutcliffe
    38 Dean Wilkins
    28 Mitch Williams
    44 Steve Wilson


    # Catchers

    9 Damon Berryhill
    7 Joe Girardi
    1 Rick Wrona


    # Infielders

    12 Shawon Dunston
    17 Mark Grace 6-02
    2 Vance Law 6-02
    15 Domingo Ramos
    11 Luis Salazar
    23 Ryne Sandberg
    16 Greg Smith 5-11
    19 Curtis Wilkerson


    Outfielders

    29 Doug Dascenzo
    8 Andre Dawson
    30 Darrin Jackson
    10 Lloyd McClendon
    18 Dwight Smith
    11 Phil Stephenson
    24 Gary Varsho
    20 Jerome Walton
    33 Mitch Webster
    25 Marvell Wynne

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    Maddux, Glavine, and the Big Hurt are in the Hall of Fame. Waiting to see the full voting results.
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    morris got 61.5%
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    Apparently 16 people didn't vote for Greg Maddux. Biggio was at 74.8%

    Like everything else about the BBWAA, their website is awful.
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    Apparently 16 people didn't vote for Greg Maddux.
    16 morons

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    Greg Maddux 555 (97.2%) 1
    Tom Glavine 525 (91.9) 1
    Frank Thomas 478 (83.7) 1
    Craig Biggio 427 (74.8) 2
    Mike Piazza 355 (62.2) 2
    Jack Morris 351 (61.5) 15
    Jeff Bagwell 310 (54.3) 4
    Tim Raines 263 (46.1) 7
    Roger Clemens 202 (35.4) 2
    Barry Bonds 198 (34.7) 2
    Lee Smith 171 (29.9) 12
    Curt Schilling 167 (29.2) 2
    Edgar Martinez 144 (25.2) 5
    Alan Trammell 119 (20.8) 13
    Mike Mussina 116 (20.3) 1
    Jeff Kent 87 (15.2) 1
    Fred McGriff 67 (11.7) 8
    Mark McGwire 63 (11.0) 8
    Larry Walker 58 (10.2) 4
    Don Mattingly 47 (8.2) 14
    Sammy Sosa 41 (7.2) 2
    Rafael Palmeiro 25 (4.4) 4
    Moises Alou 6 (1.1) 1
    Hideo Nomo 6 (1.1) 1
    Luis Gonzalez 5 (0.9) 1
    Eric Gagne 2 (0.4) 1
    J.T. Snow 2 (0.4) 1
    Armando Benitez 1 (0.2) 1
    Jacque Jones 1 (0.2) 1
    Kenny Rogers 1 (0.2) 1
    Sean Casey 0 (0) 1
    Ray Durham 0 (0) 1
    Todd Jones 0 (0) 1
    Paul LoDuca 0 (0) 1
    Richie Sexson 0 (0) 1
    Mike Timlin 0 (0) 1

    Looks like Palmeiro is off the ballot; lots of other 'roid guys declined this year.

    God bless the joker who voted for Armando Benitez
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    At least two blank ballots were submitted. Seriously fuck those guys.
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    Whoever voted for Jacque Jones and J.T. Snow should have their votes taken away. And SIX people voted for Hideo Nomo?

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    I understand the sentiment behind having distinctions, I guess, but this "first-ballot" shit is stupid if you really think about it. It's a completely arbitrary thing. A player's HoF credentials don't get better or worse after he retires.

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    A-Rod gets 162 game suspension, including a ban from next year's postseason. Ideally the Yankees would still have to pay him. Apparently he plans to appeal the suspension in federal court and participate in spring training.

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    I don't understand how he can do that. Didn't he agree to binding arbitration?
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