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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastgreatman View Post
    I found Bmack's response pretty weird too. Of course they're not a perfect way to evaluate a live show, but can you come up with a better one?
    Maybe it's just me, but if I want to evaluate a live show, I see the band live. I'd rather take the risk and just see the show than watch crappy youtube live videos. I just don't much like live videos unless they're professionally shot, and usually even then I'll only seek them out if its for a band I'll probably never have the chance to see. I've never denied being pretty weird.
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    Right, well, you know YouTube can be used for hearing music that isn't fans recording live shows, right?

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    I use youtube to check out how a group performs live, but it isn't to see if they're any good, it's to make sure they're not terrible.
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    I use youtube to check out bands on the coachella lineup. Sure its not ALWAYS going to show the "full presence" of a band live, but generally it does.

    I really don't enjoy listening to a recorded album that sounds great and then live, the band sounds like shit, consistently. Sure fan videos aren't the best but there are the occasional live videos that really sound better than the bands actual recording of the album. Those are the bands to see live

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    Quote Originally Posted by RotationSlimWang View Post
    Right, well, you know YouTube can be used for hearing music that isn't fans recording live shows, right?
    Yeah, but I could just as easily use Spotify or Bandcamp, where I don't have to worry about sound quality issues between uploaders. I
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but if I want to evaluate a live show, I see the band live. I'd rather take the risk and just see the show than watch crappy youtube live videos. I just don't much like live videos unless they're professionally shot, and usually even then I'll only seek them out if its for a band I'll probably never have the chance to see. I've never denied being pretty weird.
    I agree fully with Bryan here. A lot of things about a live experience cannot be conveyed by a youtube video, especially since many of them are bad quality.

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    Back when it was still a thing, MySpace. Now, YouTube.
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    Spotify because I'm a premium member.
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    YouTube, Soundcloud is second. They are the most-commonly used embeds on blogs and news sites.
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    If it's a big band, I try Spotify first. If it's a small truly independent band, I go to Bandcamp. I really can't stand soundcloud. The only time I go to youtube to listen to non-live music is if I am looking for an out-of-print recording (or bootleg or demo or whatever) that I think a fanboy might have uploaded. The sound quality on YT is pretty horrendous.
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    I hate how producers now put up condensed "previews" of their albums/eps on soundcloud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenicworld View Post
    I use youtube to check out how a group performs live, but it isn't to see if they're any good, it's to make sure they're not terrible.
    Yes, exactly. It's more to see HOW a group might perform live than if they're good. Seeing a few snippets of The Besnard Lakes live videos, shot by fans, made me more optimistic in seeing them. It was a weeknight show, and I'm an old man who has to work and doesn't function well without much sleep, so I was actually more motivated to go when I saw that they could maybe replicate live what I like about them.

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    I agree fully with Bryan here. A lot of things about a live experience cannot be conveyed by a youtube video, especially since many of them are bad quality.
    You guys are fucking nerds and building strawmen. We've outlined perfectly reasonable uses for YouTube fan videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guedita View Post
    I hate how producers now put up condensed "previews" of their albums/eps on soundcloud.
    This. 30 second clips are the worst
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotHamWater View Post
    You guys are fucking nerds and building strawmen. We've outlined perfectly reasonable uses for YouTube fan videos.
    Maybe reasonable for you, but for me I have no interest in previewing a band's live show via fan videos. Like I said, if I like a band I'll just pony up the money and see them live. Sometimes that approach leads me to seeing a crappy live act, but more often I catch someone entertaining. Apparently that works for you guys, and that's solid, but I have no interest in watching youtubes of a live act as a preview. It's not a strawman, it's a preference.

    And for non-live stuff, as both Jeff and I stated, youtube's sound quality is just not trustworthy. Sometimes it can be good, frequently it's crap.
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    God forbid people have different opinions and then even have the audacity to explain them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    Like I said, if I like a band I'll just pony up the money and see them live.
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    I mostly just find myself doing this with Coachella research, and the like. I knew The Besnard Lakes would end around 1:00am, and I was sort of dreading it, so I wanted more of an idea about what I might see. Watching videos put me at ease knowing that they don't do any weird awful shit to their songs, like playing at slower tempos or not utilizing some key instrument.

    I know you and Icey are more musical purists than someone such as myself, so that probably doesn't make sense to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    Maybe reasonable for you, but for me I have no interest in previewing a band's live show via fan videos. Like I said, if I like a band I'll just pony up the money and see them live. Sometimes that approach leads me to seeing a crappy live act, but more often I catch someone entertaining. Apparently that works for you guys, and that's solid, but I have no interest in watching youtubes of a live act as a preview. It's not a strawman, it's a preference.

    And for non-live stuff, as both Jeff and I stated, youtube's sound quality is just not trustworthy. Sometimes it can be good, frequently it's crap.
    Most of the bands you go to see cost like 10 dollars though because they're fucking shit. Suppose you're talking about a real band and the tickets are expensive?
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    If they made good music then I'm willing to take the chance. I paid 30something to see Danzig play a total shit show back in 2007, and more than that to see a flat and uninspired Arcade Fire set at the Greek Theater. When I saw R.E.M. I'd never watched live videos and I coughed up a decent amount of money and drove 400 miles. It's just how I like to operate. If watching the videos works for you, cool, but that's not how I like experiencing music.

    I make no claim to be a "musical purist" but I like a live set to be an experience, and for me part of that is being surprised by how the band is going to perform.
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    Goddammit Mack, you fucking asshole. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS THIS:

    You and I go out to drinks. I say to you, "Hey, there's this band I saw the other night--YOU WOULD LOVE THEM. Gotta check them out. Their name is [some band you've never heard of]. Look them up online."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    Spotify, and if they're not on there I'll look for their Bandcamp.
    Post number 7 in this thread. I've repeated that statement at least once more. Reading, it helps.
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    Good, then stop derailing this into a bizarre, shitheaded conversation about something else.
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    Danzig and REM have no relevancy whatsoever to the conversation because you already knew their fucking music, your prick bastard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastgreatman View Post
    Goddammit Mack, you fucking asshole. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS THIS:

    You and I go out to drinks. I say to you, "Hey, there's this band I saw the other night--YOU WOULD LOVE THEM. Gotta check them out. Their name is [some band you've never heard of]. Look them up online."

    WHAT DO YOU DO, SHITHEAD?
    I check out their recorded music and MAYBE look at a live review. I do not rely on youtube to determine whether or not they are "good" live. Ever. I literally have never done that. And I am using the term literally correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastgreatman View Post
    Goddammit Mack, you fucking asshole. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS THIS:

    You and I go out to drinks. I say to you, "Hey, there's this band I saw the other night--YOU WOULD LOVE THEM. Gotta check them out. Their name is [some band you've never heard of]. Look them up online."

    WHAT DO YOU DO, SHITHEAD?
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    By far the most benign subject matter that we've somehow turned into a passionate disagreement.
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    Nine times out of ten, checking out a live clip of a band on youtube to determine if you should see them live is like reading a sixth-grader's book report to determine if you should read a book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroir Noir View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by guedita View Post
    I hate how producers now put up condensed "previews" of their albums/eps on soundcloud.
    From what I've noticed artists will put up a preview on their Soundcloud until it's available on Beatport or iTunes. Then they'll upload the full version on their Soundcloud. At least that's usually what happens with the artists I listen to
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    Quote Originally Posted by york707 View Post
    Nine times out of ten, checking out a live clip of a band on youtube to determine if you should see them live is like reading a sixth-grader's book report to determine if you should read a book.
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