If You Want To Complain About The Lineup, Here's Some Advice For You

[sliiiiip]

While people have a right to be unhappy with the lineup, I don't understand why they are directing their anger towards the Coachella organizers. It's not like they have a responsibility to YOU to ensure that you're 100% satisfied with the bands on the bill. Their responsibility is to make sure that the festival is a success, and by that I mean the following:

- The festival needs to make money, above all else. It's a business.

- The festival needs to be enjoyable enough that the people that attend it will be likely to return in subsequent years or tell their friends that they should attend in the future. It's called generating spin off business.

- The festival needs to maintain a status as being able to bring in an attractive lineup so that it received positive coverage in the media and from a majority of attendees. Remember, a majority isn't everybody.

Really, other than that, I don't think that there is a responsibility on the part of the organizers to give two shits about what people think. The difference with Goldenvoice is that they actually do seem to take their audiences wishes into account when arranging their events, and have produced lineups that I'd say are pretty solid for a number of years.

So, with all that being said, those of you who are upset with the lineup have a few options that you can take as consumers:

1. Don't buy tickets. Your dollars speak louder than your bitchy messages.

2. Spend your money on other festivals that do cater to your wishes and give them more of an ability to compete with Coachella, that way the competition may lead to you getting your way at a later date (or the festivals that to cater to your demands will become stronger themselves).

3. Try to start your own festival. Take the time to get a site, organize the construction of the stages and set up of tents and concessions, get sponsorship details, bring in the bands, sell tickets, advertise, and so on, and get all the bands that you love to play there. Try your best to turn a profit so that you don't lose your shirt doing it. Oh, and good luck with all of that by the way.

I would say that based on what they are responsible for, the Coachella organizers are going a great job. Last year, I was not impressed with the lineup, so I stayed home, even though I had the money and had arranged the time off. This year, I will attend because I like the lineup. That's my right as a consumer. And if I was really unimpressed with the product, I'd write a professional letter to the organizers explaining why I was unhappy and what alternatives I would have appreciated (a hint for some of you: by 'professional letter', I don't mean posting a bitchy rant on a message board with the subject line "this lineup fucking sucks'). And if they didn't respond to my concerns, I'd take my business elsewhere.

Anyway, that's my little essay. If you want to get mad at me for writing it, now's your chance.

[Sexecutioner]

this is a message board. people come on here to share their opinions, positive or negative. if somebody is unhappy with the lineup, who else would they direct their unhappiness to besides GV? They put on the show. They market it to us, the music fans, according to what they think we want, so we will buy tickets. well, if we dont get what we want, we let them know so maybe next year they can improve.

i personally like the lineup this year, and every other year. but theres nothing wrong with people sharing their lack of enthusiasm with the lineup. if everybody here had the same opinion and just agreed with each other about everything, it would be boring.

[wstsidela]

LOL! I can't wait to see the Snivelin' Crybaby Music Festival.

[sliiiiip]

I agree that people can share their opinions on here, but reading post after post of 'The lineup sucks' or 'WORST LINEUP EVER' with people expressing anywhere from mild annoyance to pure rage at the organizers propted me to write this. I mean really, if you don't like it, go elsewhere. And as if a festival with 100 bands doesn't have enough for everyone.

People that think they are entitled to getting everything they want without doing it themselves are fools.

[york707]

My question is - why does everyone have to start their own thread about why it sucks or rules? Can't you reply to an existing thread? Srsly.

[Nychek]

yelling at people for expressing their opinion is silly -- if you aren't allowed to suggest alternate lineups then the festival could never improve. please put your jackboot away.

[AEversW]

i dont see how anyone could think this lineup sucks...shame really.

[tessalasset]

yeah thats the weirdest thing to me, is this is my favorite coachella lineup since i started going in 04. i think this beats 04, personally.

ps, AEversW, that is the best avatar EVER.

[Trailmix]

Amen my brother!

[tiffdud41]

why are the to and what's all red? did I miss something?

[mountmccabe]

why are the to and what's all red? did I miss something?

the to all what for the under said. no something hasn't happened yet.

[elChurro]

While people have a right to be unhappy with the lineup, I don't understand why they are directing their anger towards the Coachella organizers. It's not like they have a responsibility to YOU to ensure that you're 100% satisfied with the bands on the bill. Their responsibility is to make sure that the festival is a success, and by that I mean the following:

- The festival needs to make money, above all else. It's a business.

- blah blah blah. money money money...

All the bitching leads to a better lineup the following year. GV's paying attention, if not we'd have bands playing over and over every year... oh wait, thats already happening.

nevermind.

Coachella started off as an outlet for something different, creative and edgy. An alternative to the 'business as usual' concerts. Lets hope it doesn't turn into what you described... or watch it slowly turn into another lollapaloser.

cause really, Stagecoah?... lol, talk about selling out.

oh well, theres still churros and frozen lemonade.

[sliiiiip]

Coachella started off as an outlet for something different, creative and edgy. An alternative to the 'business as usual' concerts.

Good point. I remember back in '99 when Coachella features such 'different, creative and edgy' bands as Perfect Circle, Tool, The Chemical Brothers, Rage Against The Machine, and Beck.

[sliiiiip]

All the bitching leads to a better lineup the following year.

If you think your little pissy rants on a messageboard speak louder than your dollars you are an idealistic fool.

[sliiiiip]

yelling at people for expressing their opinion is silly -- if you aren't allowed to suggest alternate lineups then the festival could never improve. please put your jackboot away.

I didn't yell, I presented a well thought out opinion. I'd say that's a big step above the naysayers who post threads with subjects in all caps that say things like 'THIS LINEUP SUCKS' or 'WORST LINEUP EVER'. What a bunch of babies.

[TomAz]

The only thing dumber than bitching about the lineup on a message board..

is bitching about people bitching about the lineup on the message board.

Now this post, this one right here that you are reading, is me bitching about people bitching about other people bitching about the lineup. This is good stuff, right here.

[elChurro]

Good point. I remember back in '99 when Coachella features such 'different, creative and edgy' bands as Perfect Circle, Tool, The Chemical Brothers, Rage Against The Machine, and Beck.

...meanwhile everyone else was far from the mainstage checking out alternatives to your billboard's top 40 guide to coachella.

[Philthy]

Why can't GV give me somewhere to plug my hairdryer in? A man needs to make his hair look good when he's camping in the desert. Damn you GV. Damn you to hell.

[NoGwenPlease]

i dont see how anyone could think this lineup sucks...shame really.

co-sign

[suprefan]

Why can't GV give me somewhere to plug my hairdryer in? A man needs to make his hair look good when he's camping in the desert. Damn you GV. Damn you to hell.

Iposted somethign about this in the camping thread....

[sliiiiip]

...meanwhile everyone else was far from the mainstage checking out alternatives to your billboard's top 40 guide to coachella.

Lies.

[Tijuana]

I agree that people can share their opinions on here, but reading post after post of 'The lineup sucks' or 'WORST LINEUP EVER' with people expressing anywhere from mild annoyance to pure rage at the organizers propted me to write this. I mean really, if you don't like it, go elsewhere. And as if a festival with 100 bands doesn't have enough for everyone.

People that think they are entitled to getting everything they want without doing it themselves are fools.

Like the other poster said: "THIS IS A MESSAGE BOARD"... message boards are places where people discuss topics... If you don't want to read people's complaints about the lineup (WHICH BY THE WAY SUCKS MAJOR ASS)... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH YOUR "KNOWLEDGE ABOUT SUCCESFUL FESTIVALS"...

COACHELLA WILL SUCK THIS YEAR....

Everybody that reads this will remember me when they're at the Polo Fields sweating and tired and realizing that they just dropped a lot of cash on overpriced, overhyped, short sets by artists who are just there to collect their money.

[FakePlasticMe]

yeah thats the weirdest thing to me, is this is my favorite coachella lineup since i started going in 04. i think this beats 04, personally.

ps, AEversW, that is the best avatar EVER.

Radiohead? Pixies (at the time they hadn't toured every place with oxygen)? Kraftwerk?

No, not better than 04.

[KRINGER]

cause really, Stagecoah?... lol, talk about selling out.

seriously a country music fest in california.. now i've seen it all!

[SnowShoe]

seriously a country music fest in california.. now i've seen it all!

Stagecoach may not be your cup of tea... and it's not mone, but:

Some people are very excited about that event. So, are they less cool than you cause they want to experience a big festival in the desert? Not in their mind.

Plus, Goldenvoice has done an amazing job construcing the Coachella event layout, so it makes perfect sense to use it twice before tearing it all down. It's called economies of scale.

And, by the way... with Willie Nelson, Drive By Truckers, Old 97's, Lucinda Williams, Junior Brown... they have some pretty damn good musicians.

I ain't going to Stagecoach, but for those of you who think GV is selling out for creating a second festival, pull your head out. All they're doing is promoting live music and making a buck off of it. Pretty admirable.

[Kiefer]

this is what i really dont get... people post their wish lists of like 50 bands they want to see. thing is, you will not be able to watch them all anyway! you would just be pissed cuz every 15 minutes 3 of your 'absolute favorite bands ever' will be conflicting with each other. first year i went (01) i hopped from stage to stage, seeing maybe 38% of the acts there. last year, honestly, i saw maybe 15 acts. still worth the ticket price. buy a ticket, go to the festival, rock out, go home. quit whining.

[Cafe Dali]

The only thing dumber than bitching about the lineup on a message board..

is bitching about people bitching about the lineup on the message board.

Now this post, this one right here that you are reading, is me bitching about people bitching about other people bitching about the lineup. This is good stuff, right here.

lol

[J~$$$]

Poopin'.

[Balthazar B]

For me...

the line-up is so good, I am hard in my panties.

[sliiiiip]

Like the other poster said: "THIS IS A MESSAGE BOARD"... message boards are places where people discuss topics... If you don't want to read people's complaints about the lineup (WHICH BY THE WAY SUCKS MAJOR ASS)... GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH YOUR "KNOWLEDGE ABOUT SUCCESFUL FESTIVALS"...

COACHELLA WILL SUCK THIS YEAR....

Everybody that reads this will remember me when they're at the Polo Fields sweating and tired and realizing that they just dropped a lot of cash on overpriced, overhyped, short sets by artists who are just there to collect their money.

Hey...maybe you should take your own advice. I have a right to post on any subject I wish, and it looks like I generated quite a discussion. You, for instance, seem to have quite the little obsession with what I have to say.

Coachella won't suck for me this year, that's why I've decided to go. If I thought it was going to suck, I'd stay away and find somewhere else to spend my money. I wouldn't yap about it incessantly on some message board like a dummy. The box office receipts in combination with people's reactions AFTER the festival is done are what will make a difference in what is presented in subsequent years.