Phoenix sold out Madison Square Garden almost three years ago (I believe). I generally take that as a sign a band is ready to headline a festival. And having seen them a number of times over the last ten years, they put on a hell of a show (which wasn't the case at first).
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I just think a headliner has more of a responsibility to do songs that their casual fans know because of the large audience. That's possibly selfish of me but it's what I'm accustomed to. This isn't The Yeah Yeah Yeahs at the Glasshouse performing to die hard fans. This is Phoenix performing to 45,000+ people where almost 20,000 have only heard their last album. But if they heard their last album and this album that would be at least half of the playlist. That's all I'm saying.
How do you think the crowd will react to those 6 songs? Not everyone is music nerds like us so I wouldn't be surprised if 80% of the audience for them haven't heard the songs before the 2nd weekend. And maybe some during weekend 2 will hear some but still not a big amount.
And I like Phoenix and think they will put on a great show. I just couldn't imagine how hype I would be if Plastic Beach came out after Coachella. I already had 5 different favorite songs by then
Oh wait, I can think of two more. Blur and The Stone Roses.
The three of them combined couldn't sell out the Rose Garden if they played a triple bill, and yet they're "headliners."
They're familiar songs that have been around forever, but that casual fans or people who came on board with the last album might not instantly recognize as being Phoenix songs. It's not a revolutionary fucking concept.
Or maybe you're anticipating 40,000 people all having that A-HA moment simultaneously Saturday night when they realize that one Phoenix song they heard for 10 seconds on Six Feet Under 10 years ago is so familiar.
mr hand doesn't like phoenix.
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If an album is great it will be great live, if it is decent it will be good live, if it is bad it will be awful live.
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Or alternatively: I was with a number of Phoenix doubters at their set in 2010. All were converted. I think you'll have a good time.
If they just play the exact same setlist as 2010 - we'll all be happy!
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You know what else isn't a revolutionary concept? That someone who spent $300+ on a concert ticket would take the time to research the bands they plan to watch perform. It's not that hard. Every douche on my facebook feed seems to be on Spotify.
Plus, if "Long Distance Call" (admittedly one of the bigger non-Wolfgang songs) got this solid a reaction in 2010, we should all be fine with 3 more years under our belt.
There's a legitimate question of how fans will react to a headliner playing a big chunk of material the audience has never heard. How many fans will search out audience clips on youtube or hope the labum leaks early?
What I find interesting about Phoenix is there might be almost a half dozen acts on the lineup that are not top line that could sell about as many tickets in many markets.
Does mrhand like any British bands?
Let me guess he only likes Radiohead.
This whole thing about fans not being able to handle hearing new songs in a concert by a band they love is incredibly fucking stupid. Do you idiots not go to any concerts? This is not a strange or inconceivable occurrence by any stretch of the imagination.
The casual music fan is actually much more likely to be highly entertained by new songs that they can't sing along with every word to than the diehard music dork is. People will be excited to hear new material. Shut the fuck up.
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I like Phoenix, but the odds of their new album being amazing enough to justify a headlining slot are about 100/1. Hope they prove me wrong, but I'm guessing it'll be a complete waste of the main stage headline slot, just like Friday and Sunday nights already are.