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    Default In which we discuss: Guns, Second Amendment, Weaponry, and Violence

    It’s an injustice that we respectfully mourn notable deaths of celebrities and artists in great detail in our ‘raining’ threads, but when a mass tragedy occurs, we clutter the discussion with politics and arguments that are no different today than they were yesterday. It’d be nice to move that discussion here, where those who want to see and discuss those arguments can. And hopefully the threads of the tragedy itself can be a place to respect and mourn.

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    we hear this every time a tragedy that could/should have been preventable happens. "this isn't the right time". yes it is, it's absolutely the time to have a national conversation about this. it's a topic that is quickly (and wrongfully) becoming the 3rd rail in American politics now that neither side lists gun control as a major party platform.

    whatever. I'll just post this here.

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    Tom, "repeal the second amendment" is a big statement. elaborate please..

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    Stricter background checks and no more handguns
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    Marijuana has a better chance of becoming legalized nationwide before more gun control happens.
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    Eh, no matter how many kids get shot I can't shake the feeling that sometime relatively soon all those automatic weapons might come in REAL handy.
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    Goatchella, is that you?
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    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    It would be intellectually dishonest to equate the NRA's push for automatic weapons and deregulation with the brilliant, pragmatic language of our constitution.
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    I say we remove pencil sharpeners from schools. I know people who have stabbed others with sharp tipped pencils. And without guns, it's only a matter of time before sharpened pencils become the weapon of choice.
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    While I do not believe we should take away all guns, there's definately a problem when it's perfectly legal in most places to go buy an AR-15. Thanks, NRA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by marooko View Post
    I say we remove pencil sharpeners from schools. I know people who have stabbed others with sharp tipped pencils. And without guns, it's only a matter of time before sharpened pencils become the weapon of choice.
    yeah! because pencil sharpeners were invented for the sole purpose of killing people. oh wait, no... that's guns. sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marooko View Post
    I say we remove pencil sharpeners from schools. I know people who have stabbed others with sharp tipped pencils. And without guns, it's only a matter of time before sharpened pencils become the weapon of choice.
    If these children would've been trained properly and allowed their conceal and carry this never would've happened.
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    Assault rifles? I'm listening. All guns? Don't be a fucking pussy.
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    You're right we should all be prepared. How naive I am to think I am safe walking around the streets of any neighborhood especially my own, I need to ask santa for some kevlar, a nine, a holster and a permit.
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    Having lived with guns in the house and without guns in the house, I can tell you one thing: I didn't feel any more safe with them in the house than I do without.
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    regardless of whether he had a gun or not this guy was looking to do some kind of damage. if a gun wasn't available he would've used a knife or something else. The real issue should be finding a way to deal with these psychopaths because this is going to happen again guns or not.
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    That's your silly argument, not mine.

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    Yes he would have stabbed 30 people to death just as easily as he shot them with an automatic weapon. Good point.

    #yesthatssarcasm

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    Tomthy McVeigh killed 168 people with fertilizer and racing fuel.

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    I really doubt cowardice crazy assholes like this would be as inclined to go on killing sprees if it wasn't as easy as pointing and squeezing. Also if we had stronger background checks the second part would potentially take care of itself, how many of these schmucks obtain these legally? Most

    Marooko what the fuck are you talking about it's my argument? I said I don't like people having handguns, I am all for hunting rifles and shotguns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faxman75 View Post
    Yes he would have stabbed 30 people to death just as easily as he shot them with an automatic weapon. Good point.

    #yesthatssarcasm
    i'm not saying the crime would've been equal. kids still would've died. he was looking to do damage. a gun just made it easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VigoTheCarpathian View Post
    Tomthy McVeigh killed 168 people with fertilizer and racing fuel.
    Yes and we all have the same military training and ability to figure out exactly how to do what Timothy McVeigh did. Right?

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    i'm not saying the crime would've been equal. kids still would've died. he was looking to damage. a gun just made it easier.
    Yes and that's the point. Killing shouldn't be made "easier".

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    A car filled to the brim with gas makes an excellent killing device. It can do much more damage than a pair of 9s or a knife..

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    Yes and we all have the same military training and ability to figure out exactly how to do what Timothy McVeigh did. Right?
    Thermite bomb instructions are as easy to find on the internet as porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neighborhood Creep View Post
    A car filled to the brim with gas makes an excellent killing device. It can do much more damage than a pair of 9s or a knife..
    So your theory is, once we create stricter gun laws, people will turn to their motor vehicles as a means of killing? It will become a weapon of choice so to speak.

    No.

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    equating something that can be used to kill (baseball bats, knives, pencil sharpeners and now cars filled with gas) to something that was invented specifically to kill is silly at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VigoTheCarpathian View Post
    Thermite bomb instructions are as easy to find on the internet as porn
    Yes Thermite bomb building will become an epidemic if we create gun restrictions. These are all very intelligent arguments guys. I'm glad I stopped in for a bit. Keep em' coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenicworld View Post
    equating something that can be used to kill (baseball bats, knives, pencil sharpeners and now cars filled with gas) to something that was invented specifically to kill is silly at best.
    No, thermite bombs are built to mass kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faxman75 View Post
    Yes Thermite bomb building will become an epidemic if we create gun restrictions. These are all very intelligent arguments guys. I'm glad I stopped in for a bit. Keep em' coming.
    When did anyone say that guns should not be regulated?

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