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[Somewhat Damaged]

It's just a selfish and a horrible thing to do to your loved ones.

You don't know what the situation was, so you're not in a position to judge. It's all too easy to spout off that the person was being a selfish prick for killing themselves when one doesn't know what was going on in that person's life or mind that compelled them to do that. It pisses me off when people get so indignant about something they have zero clue about.

[TomAz]

Come on Rick. people with mental illness just need to get over it. sheesh.

[algunz]

I'm guessing you don't know what it feels like to be left behind. Why do you guys have the right to judge?

[gaypalmsprings]

[TomAz]

Why do you guys have the right to judge?

What a bizarre statement. ThatGirl has judged suicides as selfish. Rick and I are disagreeing with her.

[amyzzz]

No one has the right to feel any way about anything, EVER.

[TomAz]

They have an "AMSOME" clause.

[algunz]

I guess I'm being hypersensitive.

[HotHamWater]

I'm guessing you don't know what it feels like to be left behind. Why do you guys have the right to judge?

Yes, let's just stop having discourse and sharing opinions because some of it is rooted in "judging."

[ThatGirl]

You don't know what the situation was, so you're not in a position to judge. It's all too easy to spout off that the person was being a selfish prick for killing themselves when one doesn't know what was going on in that person's life or mind that compelled them to do that. It pisses me off when people get so indignant about something they have zero clue about.

I don't know the circumstances, but my gut reaction when a person chooses to take their own life isn't something I can help.

[chairmenmeow47]

i think when you have kids under the age of 18, it's pretty fucked. i'm sure there are some parents where you're probably such a shitty parent, death allows the child to only remember the good stuff, but it also leaves a trail of trauma for that kid for the rest of their life. especially if they were too young to understand the parent killed themselves because they were generally depressed and not just mad at the kid. other than that, i don't think any of us can reasonably tell someone life is going to get better if they just live to make the rest of us happy. it's sad. and yes, it really hurts those of us left behind, but it's not our life to live.

[fatbastard]

Always go with your gut.

[algunz]

Yes, let's just stop having discourse and sharing opinions because some of it is rooted in "judging."

That is so not what I was going for. It just seems that there may be some truth to TG's statement and just like the victim's feelings, the survivor's emotions shouldn't be disregarded.

[SoulDischarge]

It's selfish for a rich and famous person to commit suicide. What the fuck are we plebes supposed to look forward to if wealth and notoriety doesn't make you happy?

[HotHamWater]

That is so not what I was going for. It just seems that there may be some truth to TG's statement and just like the victim's feelings, the survivor's emotions shouldn't be disregarded.

Rick acknowledged this in his first post...

Have you never been so in the grip of despair that killing yourself seemed like the most reasonable action? I think it's fucked that he did this, especially since he had a couple of kids, but I can empathize with being despondent enough to think about committing suicide in the first place, much less going through with it.

ThatGirl gave an opinion, Rick gave a little bit of validity to an aspect of her opinion and came back with his own perspective. That's how this stuff works, algunz.

[SoulDischarge]

Maybe algunz just has survivor's guilt.

[nyarlathotoats]

Well, congrats on purposely derailing the joke by taking it in a very non-funny shitty direction. I would like to know what your thought process was.

Look, it was a swing and a miss at being witty. I get that; I tried and failed.

Its a message board, hotham. Simmer down...

[algunz]

ThatGirl gave an opinion, Rick gave a little bit of validity to an aspect of her opinion and came back with his own perspective. That's how this stuff works, algunz.

I never insisted that the discussion end.

[Yablonowitz]

There's some quality, meaningful communicating going on in this thread. It's so great to see.

[TomAz]

Hi Greg. How are you? I am fine.

[McDunnough]

Apparently he had just been diagnosed with inoperable brain cancer.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...4#.UDJgb6OfiJs

[SoulDischarge]

Brain cancer? How selfish.

[ThatGirl]

Apparently he had just been diagnosed with inoperable brain cancer.

That's awful.

[TomAz]

What a prick.

[RotationSlimWang]

Hahahaha, FACE.

[Yablonowitz]

That's awful.

Better than dying with a bunch of fucking tubes shoved in you.

[Yablonowitz]

Hi Greg. How are you? I am fine.

I'm doing fine. Heard about this and knew I needed to come to the board to make sense of it all. Glad you're doing well.

[algunz]

Better for everybody.

[ThatGirl]

Better than dying with a bunch of fucking tubes shoved in you.

Well I hope his family can share that same view, and take comfort in the notes he left, even if they didn't get the chance to say goodbye to him.

[RotationSlimWang]

Saying goodbye isn't really all that much fun.