Fitchella 2013 It's GO TIME!

[ThatGirl]

Just under 10lbs lost since the start of the year. No change in routine - just eating sensibly.

I'm exercising a lot but need a straight month of eating sensibly to lose my 10 lbs. Need to summon up the will.

[chairmenmeow47]

way to go, chris!

being sick for so long and having abdominal incisions made me forget how easy and rewarding hula-hooping is. i've now gotten into a routine of hula-hooping for a half-hour while watching tv (preferably something without commercials so i don't have to hold the remote). only thing is i feel like i need to stand on a blanket or towel or my heels start to kinda hurt.

[chairmenmeow47]

also, shame yourself thin!

http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2...cist-says?lite

Fat-shaming may curb obesity, bioethicist says
By JoNel Aleccia, Staff Writer, NBC News

Unhappy with the slow pace of public health efforts to curb America’s stubborn obesity epidemic, a prominent bioethicist is proposing a new push for what he says is an “edgier strategy” to promote weight loss: ginning up social stigma.

Daniel Callahan, a senior research scholar and president emeritus of The Hastings Center, put out a new paper this week calling for a renewed emphasis on social pressure against heavy people -- what some may call fat-shaming -- including public posters that would pose questions like this:

“If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?”

Callahan outlined a strategy that applauds efforts to boost education, promote public health awareness of obesity and curb marketing of unhealthy foods to children.

But, he added, those plans could do with a dose of shame if there’s any hope of repairing a nation where more than a third of adults and 17 percent of kids are obese.

“Safe and slow incrementalism that strives never to stigmatize obesity has not and cannot do the necessary work,” wrote Callahan in a Hastings Center Report from the nonprofit bioethics think tank.

Weight-acceptance advocates and doctors who treat obesity reacted swiftly to the plan proposed by Callahan, a trim 82-year-old.

“For him to argue that we need more stigma, I don’t know what world he’s living in,” said Deb Burgard, a California psychologist specializing in eating disorders and a member of the advisory board for the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance.

“He must not have any contact with actual free-range fat people,” she added.

That view is shared by Dr. Tom Inge, an expert in childhood obesity at the Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center.

“No amount of teasing, probing questions about what they wish they could do, or medications seem to help,” Inge said. “So if one is proposing to help them by more stigmatization, that would seem at once both antithetical and unethical.”

Still, Callahan, a former smoker, argued that public shunning of those who lit up led to plunging rates of cigarette use. People were asked to smoke outside and told directly or indirectly that their “nasty” habit was socially unacceptable.

“The force of being shamed and beat upon socially was as persuasive for me to stop smoking as the threats to my health,” he wrote. “The campaign to stigmatize smoking was a great success turning what had been considered simply a bad habit into reprehensible behavior.”

That same pressure could be applied to overweight people, perhaps leading to increased efforts by people to eat right, exercise -- and actually succeed in losing weight, Callahan argued.

“The individual seems to be left out of this,” he told NBC News.

But the difference between smoking and obesity is huge, said Burgard, the eating disorder expert.

“Deciding whether to smoke or not is a behavior,” she said. “The weight your body is is not a behavior.”

Stigmatizing obesity targets not just the act, but the entire person.

“It’s a kind of identity you have that is actually the very most intimate thing about you: your very body,” she said.

Callahan does worry that increased stigma will lead to more retaliation against overweight people in employment and other areas. He frets about finding a way to pressure people to do something about their extra pounds, but without making them feel too badly about it.

“Can there be social pressure that does not lead to outright discrimination – a kind of stigmatization lite?” he wrote.

Callahan’s theory has drawn criticism, not only from obesity specialists, but also from other bioethicists. There’s already plenty of stigma heaped on the obese, said Art Caplan, the head of the Division of Medical Ethics at NYU Langone Medical Center, and an NBC News contributor.

“Zinging the chubby does not require a shift in our daily conversation,” he said. “Plenty of Americans are already more than willing to chide their fellow fatties about their weight.”

Instead of shaming people, social efforts should focus on forcing food manufacturers and marketers to stop creating what’s been termed an “obesogenic environment.”

“Calls on each of us to take more charge of our food behavior in an environment in which the promotion of fast, unhealthy foods is omnipresent and celebrity chefs extol the wonders of high-caloric meals on television hour after hour is to spit personal virtue against a tsunami of marketing coming in the other direction,” Caplan said.

Still, Inge, the medical expert, says Callahan’s call for more social pressure might play a role when it comes to prevention, particularly with parents of kids on the borderline of obesity.

“If we could somehow make an impact with an edgier approach with young parents who for convenience sake, or out of ignorance, poverty or whatever make very bad dietary and lifestyle choices for their unwitting toddler, that might be something very worthwhile,” Inge said.

and this made me lulz at my desk:

“He must not have any contact with actual free-range fat people,” she added.

[ENluv12]

weighed in this morning.... Today marks 10 lbs down! Guys, if I can lose weight, I KNOW you can. I love eating shitty foods and I hate working out. I have been saying for 2 years that I need to lose weight and I finally started to! Just find the motivation for why you want to lose the weight and you can do it!

[Errant]

I am interested in one of the polar Ft's, how do you like it?

I love it! It makes me feel better doing this MFP calorie counting business to have a more accurate burned count from my workouts. I bought the FT4 which is very basic. It gives you the heart rate and calories burned, and lets you set up one zone. I'm almost wishing I had bought a more expensive one that could do more zones and the fitness test, but I really don't think it's necessary. Maybe I'll upgrade some day if this one ever kicks the bucket.

[ThatGirl]

weighed in this morning.... Today marks 10 lbs down! Guys, if I can lose weight, I KNOW you can. I love eating shitty foods and I hate working out. I have been saying for 2 years that I need to lose weight and I finally started to! Just find the motivation for why you want to lose the weight and you can do it!

Great job!! I need to find that drive. Maybe when we get the lineup and I'm all booked for first weekend that will do it!

[Errant]

Looks like everyone's doing a great job getting fit. Congrats, Fitchellians!!

[ENluv12]

Getting engaged really helped me... I thought I was going to die trying to eat better, but it wasn't that bad. MFP helped a lot... Ivy has been great motivation, and Beth. We all try to keep each other in line, and once I started losing some it was easier to stick with it.

[lehorne]

“He must not have any contact with actual free-range fat people,”

Seen some of them while driving outside Omaha one time.

Let’s pretend we just had gastro bypass surgery. That follow-up diet looks torturous, but I’m sure effective. Fluids only the first few weeks, then pureed foods are introduced.

[euphonicfiend]

I love it! It makes me feel better doing this MFP calorie counting business to have a more accurate burned count from my workouts. I bought the FT4 which is very basic. It gives you the heart rate and calories burned, and lets you set up one zone. I'm almost wishing I had bought a more expensive one that could do more zones and the fitness test, but I really don't think it's necessary. Maybe I'll upgrade some day if this one ever kicks the bucket.

Good to know! I have the polar ft40 in my amazon shopping bag. I currently use a fit bit to track steps & sleep and as a rough guesstimate for calories burned, I'm thinking with the polar ft40 I can see how accurate the fitbit is for calories burned, and if its not so accurate just continue to use it for tracking steps. I think with having both I will have a pretty good idea of what I'm burning.

[Azzah1977]

Okay I know this is going to be a dumb question so I'm sorry in advance. Is there anywhere to go for a run when at Coachella? The only reason is it will be really close the Tough Mudder I'm taking part in. Can we leave Coachella grounds to go for a run? And if we can, would there be somewhere close I can go for a run without looking like an oddball? Thanks for all your help

[Chillzzz]

50 pull ups in 4 sets and 150 pushups in 6 sets

[Chillzzz]

Okay I know this is going to be a dumb question so I'm sorry in advance. Is there anywhere to go for a run when at Coachella? The only reason is it will be really close the Tough Mudder I'm taking part in. Can we leave Coachella grounds to go for a run? And if we can, would there be somewhere close I can go for a run without looking like an oddball? Thanks for all your help

To be honest with all the walking and dancing you'll be doing you won't need to run, but I've seen people jogging around the camp grounds at night and in the morning, they're big enough to laps around and if you need to leave the grounds you can go into the neighborhoods.

[Azzah1977]

I thought of that too. I'm just scared that if I miss any of my training I will be back at square one. I'm not the fittest person in the world so it's hard as it is to keep up. Oh okay I didn't know if we can leave Coachella grounds but I will probably end up doing that. Thanks for the advice!

[chairmenmeow47]

are you camping? if not, the parking lot walk will be sufficient.

do they still do yoga in the campgrounds?

[ENluv12]

are you camping? if not, the parking lot walk will be sufficient.

do they still do yoga in the campgrounds?

I think I read last year that they did.

[Azzah1977]

yes I am car camping

[chairmenmeow47]

just run around the campgrounds. i'm sure you'll be only the 5th or 6th craziest person running around

i just took a walk at work after waiting for the rain to subside. fuck yes.

so a question for the people who wear the calorie counting things all day long. do you find it's more accurate for things like workout machines because it measures heart rate and you can input your weight? my only concern is how accurate things like walking to you car in the parking lot are. if you're only walking for 2 minutes, how many calories are you really burning if your heart rate doesn't go up?

[Chillzzz]

I thought of that too. I'm just scared that if I miss any of my training I will be back at square one. I'm not the fittest person in the world so it's hard as it is to keep up. Oh okay I didn't know if we can leave Coachella grounds but I will probably end up doing that. Thanks for the advice!

Don't worry too much about it, you don't get in shape in 3 days and you don't get out of shape in 3 days, dance your ass off and enjoy the weekend.

[beeerplease]

170lbs 5'6" large framed

A lot of work to do in the next 3 months, but still in prime condition to produce Rey Maualugas. yaaaa knowwww what i'm sayyinnnnnnnnnn

[euphonicfiend]

just run around the campgrounds. i'm sure you'll be only the 5th or 6th craziest person running around

i just took a walk at work after waiting for the rain to subside. fuck yes.

so a question for the people who wear the calorie counting things all day long. do you find it's more accurate for things like workout machines because it measures heart rate and you can input your weight? my only concern is how accurate things like walking to you car in the parking lot are. if you're only walking for 2 minutes, how many calories are you really burning if your heart rate doesn't go up?

As I have mentioned before I use the fitbit, it tells you how many calories you have burned by your steps taken, depending on how fast the steps are taken and for how long in a straight period. but this fitbit does not have a heart rate monitor so I am not sure how accurate it is. I haven't worried or cared too much since I have been doing 2 hrs of cardio so i know I am at least burning 300-400 calories and I never eat back more than 200 calories so I'm its ok. I did want to buy a polor ft40 which takes your heart rate with this strap attached to your chest, which is way more accurate. So I think if I combine the polar ft40 with my fitbit results which I will use to track my steps I will have a pretty good idea of how much I'm walking and how many calories I'm burning.

[Chillzzz]

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[chairmenmeow47]

thanks for the response

also, i heard on NPR this morning that you can take classes with richard simmons for only $12. IF ONLY I LIVED IN BEVERLY HILLS!

http://www.richardsimmons.com/j15/in...e=cat&cat_id=1

[euphonicfiend]

thanks for the response

also, i heard on NPR this morning that you can take classes with richard simmons for only $12. IF ONLY I LIVED IN BEVERLY HILLS!

http://www.richardsimmons.com/j15/in...e=cat&cat_id=1

yes you can! my friend does it ALL THE TIME. She takes pictures with him every time she goes.

[chairmenmeow47]

well i live in arizona. i'm actually going to LA this weekend, maybe i can find a class. i'd totally wear a headband.

[euphonicfiend]

well i live in arizona. i'm actually going to LA this weekend, maybe i can find a class. i'd totally wear a headband.

I think headbands are mandatory.

[Errant]

Way back a million years ago, my mother (the aerobic bitch from hell) was on his show. She wore a Flashdance leotard and leg warmers. Probably a head band, too!

[ThatGirl]

Speaking of working out at Coachella - if I organized morning Zumba classes somewhere on the grounds, would this interest anyone? I have music on my phone and would probably have speakers, just need a power source. It would be way more fun than trying to find a place to run.

[lehorne]

No working out at Coachella. The worst was seeing some arse in his jogging shorts early morning running barefoot through tent camping in 2010 with all those ground prickles. Isn't all that walking/dancing/sex enough exercise?

[Monsterface]

Getting engaged really helped me... I thought I was going to die trying to eat better, but it wasn't that bad. MFP helped a lot... Ivy has been great motivation, and Beth. We all try to keep each other in line, and once I started losing some it was easier to stick with it.

What are your MFP usernames? I need to get some buddies on there-mine is mrmonsterface