SAVE THE FUNKYLAMA!!!

[PotVsKtl]

Sounds thrilling. I'm going to start drinking now.

[thefunkylama]

Guys, guys, don't get ahead of yourselves. That's pro-level only.



Further: Drinking and slacklining is a sobriety test in hell.

[Robin]

F that. I can't even pass a sobriety test sober.

[TomAz]

Not trying to be argumentative because I know this is your area of expertise, but what about this situation makes it tricky? Seems to the layperson like the city would be found culpable. What makes a lawsuit a doomed scenario?

Lampposts are not designed or intended to support a slackline. You can't expect the city to engineer their lampposts to serve those (& all other imaginable) purposes. That means the burden of proof would be on Alma to show that the lamppost was a safety risk anyway and that the slacklining had a minimal causative effect. A difficult case.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

I stand behind TomAz

[PotVsKtl]

[thefunkylama]

Overruled!_logo.gif

[Mr. Fuzz]

Lampposts are not designed or intended to support a slackline. You can't expect the city to engineer their lampposts to serve those (& all other imaginable) purposes. That means the burden of proof would be on Alma to show that the lamppost was a safety risk anyway and that the slacklining had a minimal causative effect. A difficult case.

Maybe, there are other lamp post in that same park that are just as risky. Did you guys take a look around? ?

Either way, I wouldn't pay the hospital bills. Did you ask to be treated or did they just fix you up?

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Maybe, there are other lamp post in that same park that are just as risky. Did you guys take a look around? ?

Either way, I wouldn't pay the hospital bills. Did you ask to be treated or did they just fix you up?

Nothing in this post makes any sense

[TomAz]

I think he was suggesting, in the first paragraph, that if there is a demonstrable pattern of rickety unsafe lampposts throughout the park, that might enhance Alma's case; and in the second, that Alma somehow has no obligation (legal or moral) to compensate the hospital for professional medical services rendered.

[kitt kat]

The city is most certainly responsible. Sounds like the post was unstable to begin with and was just waiting for something to bring it down. What if a kid hit it with a bike? City's fault; this shouldn't be any different.

I will chip in when I get paid!

[Mr. Fuzz]

I think he was suggesting, in the first paragraph, that if there is a demonstrable pattern of rickety unsafe lampposts throughout the park, that might enhance Alma's case; and in the second, that Alma somehow has no obligation (legal or moral) to compensate the hospital for professional medical services rendered.

Well, I don't think that she should pay the bills in full, ever. You can call and explain your situation and break your bill into payments with no intrest charged to you. Tell them that you can only afford $25 a month and see what they can do. Then, spend the money on things like perscriptions, wheelchairs, etc.

[TomAz]

I certainly agree there is no need for her to pay full billed charges; no one else does. And an interest-free payment plan would be useful as well. But, I think she should spend the money on things like more slacklines.

[HowToDisappear]

Yes, more slacklines.

Contribution made.

[Mr. Fuzz]

Is she having trouble making the monthly payment or does she just not feel that she is responsible for paying the bill?

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

That is covered in extreme detail on the fundraiser page.

[guedita]

That is covered is extreme detail on the fundraiser page.

How dare you suggest Mr. Fuzz take some time to read, digest, and think before spouting his opinion.

[Somewhat Damaged]

Lampposts are not designed or intended to support a slackline. You can't expect the city to engineer their lampposts to serve those (& all other imaginable) purposes. That means the burden of proof would be on Alma to show that the lamppost was a safety risk anyway and that the slacklining had a minimal causative effect. A difficult case.

Hmm, hadn't considered that. So while the case against the city would be difficult, finding fault with those setting up the slacklines would conceivably not be, right? Although then we get into whether it was actually any sort of a company doing it or just some yahoos who wanted to goof around on the 4th of July, some of whom may have been Alma's friends, and who Alma wouldn't be able to get any money out of in the first place.

[PlayaDelWes]

A faceless city may seem easy to blame, but 100% of the onus is on the one who set up the apparatus. Slacklining is a dangerous activity. There are accidents all over youtube and multiple forums on what to safely attach your slackline to; even calculators. A rickety light-post simply toppling over because the wind blew is a lot different than connecting a tension line to it and applying 1,000 pounds of pressure or more. Not to mention, a light-post is a lever, which requires even less force to topple for every inch up you go.

[TomAz]

Hmm, hadn't considered that. So while the case against the city would be difficult, finding fault with those setting up the slacklines would conceivably not be, right? Although then we get into whether it was actually any sort of a company doing it or just some yahoos who wanted to goof around on the 4th of July, some of whom may have been Alma's friends, and who Alma wouldn't be able to get any money out of in the first place.

I think Alma already said she was part of the crew setting the lines up.

[Mr. Fuzz]

How dare you suggest Mr. Fuzz take some time to read, digest, and think before spouting his opinion.

Please, quote it.

[PotVsKtl]

This guy likes the White Stripes everybody. Just do as he says.

[TomAz]

A faceless city may seem easy to blame

[malcolmjamalawesome]

The city is most certainly responsible. Sounds like the post was unstable to begin with and was just waiting for something to bring it down. What if a kid hit it with a bike? City's fault; this shouldn't be any different.

I will chip in when I get paid!

Summary Judgment against the plaintiff.

[Somewhat Damaged]

I think Alma already said she was part of the crew setting the lines up.

Clearly I didn't pay attention to that portion of her story, Tom, duh.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Hmm, hadn't considered that. So while the case against the city would be difficult, finding fault with those setting up the slacklines would conceivably not be, right? Although then we get into whether it was actually any sort of a company doing it or just some yahoos who wanted to goof around on the 4th of July, some of whom may have been Alma's friends, and who Alma wouldn't be able to get any money out of in the first place.

Nobody is getting into that.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

A faceless city may seem easy to blame, but 100% of the onus is on the one who set up the apparatus. Slacklining is a dangerous activity. There are accidents all over youtube and multiple forums on what to safely attach your slackline to; even calculators. A rickety light-post simply toppling over because the wind blew is a lot different than connecting a tension line to it and applying 1,000 pounds of pressure or more. Not to mention, a light-post is a lever, which requires even less force to topple for every inch up you go.

Per usual, PlayaDelWes is nailing it.

[sonofhal]

I donated a kidney and will be selling "More Slacklines" t-shirts outside the Olympic stadium to raise funds for this worthy cause.

[Tubesock Shakur]

No moar slackline.

[M Sparks]

What in the fuck is a slackline.

What do you do once you're on the slackline?

This is the first time ever Pot and I have ever had the same thoughts at the same time.

Regardless of my ignorance of what you damn kids do, donation is forthcoming.