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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    We have very little proof of that. Yes, a select few will, but most of those people will be part of some sort of organized crime syndicate. A mentally disturbed person seeking to go on a shooting rampage will be much less likely to have the connections to get in contact with a black market arms dealer.

    For reference, do you know who you could contact to get a portable-RPG or weapons-grade plutonium? Both are illegal and sold on the black market, and both are hard to come by. Another specious argument that seems to be borne of paranoia rather than logic.
    I agreed with you and thought you made a good point, until...

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    I can't quite get my mind around this one. Shooting or not what were these parents thinking?
    Who fucking cares. I thought this was 'merica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by algunz View Post
    I can't quite get my mind around this one. Shooting or not what were these parents thinking?

    http://news.yahoo.com/couple-colo-th...D2ztarWqCs#_=_
    Hey, the last time a Batman movie came out, some guy locked his toddler in an 90 degree car in the parking lot of one of the local movie theaters here. The police found him screaming at like 2 in the morning.
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    It's hard to argue with that.

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    i'm curious as to why the shooter would tell the cops his apartment was rigged with explosives if he was setting out to hurt people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmack86 View Post
    We have very little proof of that. Yes, a select few will, but most of those people will be part of some sort of organized crime syndicate. A mentally disturbed person seeking to go on a shooting rampage will be much less likely to have the connections to get in contact with a black market arms dealer.

    For reference, do you know who you could contact to get a portable-RPG or weapons-grade plutonium? Both are illegal and sold on the black market, and both are hard to come by. Another specious argument that seems to be borne of paranoia rather than logic.
    The potential logical flaw you are making here though is assuming outlawing guns is the only or even most productive avenue to reduce violence.

    Your RPG/plutonium analogy doesn't really work because there is a very tight supply for those regardless of demand.
    Of course creating a huge effort to ban all guns will may very well reduce gun violence to a degree, but you don't know how flexible the black market will be, and we certainly can't say whether working on the societal issues that precipitate gun violence might not have a far greater and sustainable effect. Quoting some statistic about HOW MUCH MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO DIE by a gun than terrorism is disengenuous (not by you, but others). Movie theater massacres are exceedingly rare. It's mostly people in pre-disposed socio-economic conditions who face that reality. And it's there where the black market would probably blossom. This isn't really about movie theater massacres. And that isn't the problem that needs solving.


    I'm not really trying to argue that outlawing all guns isn't a good idea. It probably is. But I suspect we can improve people's lives to a larger degree in other ways.
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    Wes just got most of the board on an FBI watch list. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubesock Shakur View Post
    http://gizmodo.com/5927379/the-secre...nyone-anything

    "The Armory is an anonymous marketplace where you can buy and sell without revealing who you are. We protect your identity through every step of the process, from connecting to this site, to purchasing your items, to finally receiving them."
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    This guy I knew in Chicago lived above some kids who ordered a ton of drugs off that site (Silk Road, not the gun portion).

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    I'm not sure "smh" is the appropriate acronym to describe seeing a little girl get shot. I think "fml" expresses the profound sorrow and horror much more eloquently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miroir Noir View Post
    Hey, the last time a Batman movie came out, some guy locked his toddler in an 90 degree car in the parking lot of one of the local movie theaters here. The police found him screaming at like 2 in the morning.
    Maybe this should be a conversation about birth control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotHamWater View Post
    Wes just got most of the board on an FBI watch list. Thanks.
    Haha I was thinking the same thing when I clicked the link he posted. And I'm at work too...

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    Can we change jackstraw's board title to Devil's Advocate already?
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    Anyone going to go see this tonight or this weekend?
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    has a manifesto emerged yet? there's always a manifesto.
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    Funny, My home is almost ready to be down for access
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanfairchild View Post
    has a manifesto emerged yet? there's always a manifesto.
    http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanfairchild View Post
    has a manifesto emerged yet? there's always a manifesto.

    there's your manifesto

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    Has a list of the victims been released yet?

    And those people who brought their babies should thank their lucky stars the kids escaped alive. I'm sorry — I know parenting is hard and stressful, but if you absolutely can't get a sitter and you absolutely must bring your tiny infant to a (very loud, violent and long) movie...wait a few days and see a daytime screening for fuck's sake. I want to blame it on them being "young parents" but I really think it's just general stupidity. No reason little kids should be at midnight screenings. That 4 year old will definitely have memories of this which makes me so fucking sad/angry

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw94086 View Post
    The potential logical flaw you are making here though is assuming outlawing guns is the only or even most productive avenue to reduce violence.

    Your RPG/plutonium analogy doesn't really work because there is a very tight supply for those regardless of demand.
    Of course creating a huge effort to ban all guns will may very well reduce gun violence to a degree, but you don't know how flexible the black market will be, and we certainly can't say whether working on the societal issues that precipitate gun violence might not have a far greater and sustainable effect. Quoting some statistic about HOW MUCH MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO DIE by a gun than terrorism is disengenuous (not by you, but others). Movie theater massacres are exceedingly rare. It's mostly people in pre-disposed socio-economic conditions who face that reality. And it's there where the black market would probably blossom. This isn't really about movie theater massacres. And that isn't the problem that needs solving.


    I'm not really trying to argue that outlawing all guns isn't a good idea. It probably is. But I suspect we can improve people's lives to a larger degree in other ways.
    Agreed. And honestly, while I'm personally not a fan of hand guns as a general rule, I'm not for a blanket ban on firearms. I understand their usefulness as sport and hunting tools, I just would like to see more proscriptive regulation so that there is some oversight against things happening. It won't stop things like this, but it would be an added deterrent.
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    I blame the Swedish House Mafia. Specifically Steve Angello.

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    The need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by algunz View Post
    I can't quite get my mind around this one. Shooting or not what were these parents thinking?

    http://news.yahoo.com/couple-colo-th...D2ztarWqCs#_=_
    Holy shit, I really can't believe this story. The guy lets go of his baby and then runs out of the theater without the baby, his daughter and the mother of his childern. And then the motherfucker gets in his car and drives off without them. WTF
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    no fucking way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Fuzz View Post
    Holy shit, I really can't believe this story. The guy lets go of his baby and then runs out of the theater without the baby, his daughter and the mother of his childern. And then the motherfucker gets in his car and drives off without them. WTF
    Two kids, super young and unmarried. Not surprised he's pretty uncommitted to his spawn if he can't show legal commitment to the mother of his children. What an asshole. There's still time for the poor girlfriend to bolt!

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    I don't know if the guy was an asshole. He was probably just panicking. It happens.
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    you don't leave a baby on the ground in a panicked theater that is being shot up. if the threat of getting shot wasn't bad enough, what if the baby got stepped on by the panicked crowd trying to leave the theater? no excuse for that.
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    ...so you're panicking and it's totally logical to drop your infant on the ground, run out of the theatre and drive away? Leaving the two kids and girlfriend inside?

    "Panicking" would be an excuse if he bolted with the infant outside as soon as he could to keep the baby safe, then staying outside to wait for the girlfriend OR giving the baby to an EMT and going back in to grab his girlfriend.. I don't get the logic of leaving the baby on the floor when people are stampeding around in all the chaos. You make a choice to put your baby on the ground, leave the building AND drive away? I'm not gonna believe it was "panicking" — it's you being a motherfucking selfish asshole.

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    That's neither here nor there at this point; like I said, I hope the girlfriend reconsiders this jerk and thanks her lucky stars she was brave enough to protect her babies.

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