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    This thread is in commemoration of the great music festival that was once Coachella.

    Coachella was once a festival where a person could go and listen to music. Great music. Music that spanned generations and performances that were simply timeless. The lineup was diverse, the accommodations were minimal, but the experience was unforgettable. Hard to believe how far we have come...

    Now, here we are. Thursday, May 17 2012. A day that will live in infamy for music lovers. What was once a music festival has transformed into a trendy LA rave. Gone are the days where one could go to discover new music. Coachella 2012's sahara lineup confirms what we have all feared, the era of good music has ended. Get ready to hear more of Levels, Feel So Close, and David Guetta in 2013. I heard all the sahara dj's are going to play a sick remix of Calling. Should be fun. The lineup has not even come out but it almost does not matter what is on it. Expect mainstream garbage. Expect the same lineup as EDC.

    Coachella has successfully transformed into a trendy, mainsteam music festival. Have fun, ravers.

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    Here's the pro-tip to have a great Coachella: don't go in the Sahara tent now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ods.. View Post
    Here's the pro-tip to have a great Coachella: don't go in the Sahara tent now.
    ^^^^^ exactly...i went toward the sahara tent once this year for 5 min to see some friends and quickly realized what coachella has turned into but just don't go there...its impossible for anything not to become trendy after 10+ years..stop bitching


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    i personally wish they'd axe the sahara tent and put more actual bands but whatever GV has to make their please the mainstream crowd now more than ever
    Quote Originally Posted by mncarpooler View Post
    Anything that's not Sahara tent trash is going to have a small crowd it seems like. I wandered over near the Sahara once all weekend and it was a clusterfuck of the douchiest looking people you could ever imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedonism View Post
    This thread is in commemoration of the great music festival that was once Coachella.

    Coachella was once a festival where a person could go and listen to music. Great music. Music that spanned generations and performances that were simply timeless. The lineup was diverse, the accommodations were minimal, but the experience was unforgettable. Hard to believe how far we have come...

    Now, here we are. Thursday, May 17 2012. A day that will live in infamy for music lovers. What was once a music festival has transformed into a trendy LA rave. Gone are the days where one could go to discover new music. Coachella 2012's sahara lineup confirms what we have all feared, the era of good music has ended. Get ready to hear more of Levels, Feel So Close, and David Guetta in 2013. I heard all the sahara dj's are going to play a sick remix of Calling. Should be fun. The lineup has not even come out but it almost does not matter what is on it. Expect mainstream garbage. Expect the same lineup as EDC.

    Coachella has successfully transformed into a trendy, mainsteam music festival. Have fun, ravers.

    5/17/12 the day hedonism realized he fucked up and missed out on tickets

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    Quote Originally Posted by lt.roast.a.botch View Post
    5/17/12 the day hedonism realized he fucked up and missed out on tickets
    The "fox and the sour grapes" phenomenon.

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    OP is hedo rick!
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    Sounds like you only listen to "underground" electronic music..

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    Are you sure you are not getting older? I have been going for 7 years now and while yes I agree that Sahara has gone downhill, I find myself gravitating towards the other tents more which is nice. I cannot believe you are going to be pissed off because a lot people enjoy electronic music. How can you be mad at someone who is having a good time with their friends and screaming the lyrics to a song. Yes it may be a bro who you despise, but how dare you feel superior to him for liking "better" music than him/her. Coachella is constantly evolving and things change, if Coachella stayed the way it started it would be dead. You sound like an asshole, and you are already assuming that they are booking electronic acts that are terrible. How do you know they are not planning to reunite Talking Heads (yes I know how ridiculous this is) or get Bowie. If they do that, will Coachella be "cool" for you? I hate all this bitching today from everybody, Coachella is a beautiful place and a wonderful experience, the music is a bonus. Just because your mother did not hug you enough as a child does not mean you need to take it out on music festival that really has not done anything wrong to you.

    Also what ods... said, stay away from Sahara if you do not want to go there, there is a reason they put it in the corner.
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    ^

    Sahara was fucking garbage this year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedonism View Post
    This thread is in commemoration of the great music festival that was once Coachella.

    Coachella was once a festival where a person could go and listen to music. Great music. Music that spanned generations and performances that were simply timeless. The lineup was diverse, the accommodations were minimal, but the experience was unforgettable. Hard to believe how far we have come...

    Now, here we are. Thursday, May 17 2012. A day that will live in infamy for music lovers. What was once a music festival has transformed into a trendy LA rave. Gone are the days where one could go to discover new music. Coachella 2012's sahara lineup confirms what we have all feared, the era of good music has ended. Get ready to hear more of Levels, Feel So Close, and David Guetta in 2013. I heard all the sahara dj's are going to play a sick remix of Calling. Should be fun. The lineup has not even come out but it almost does not matter what is on it. Expect mainstream garbage. Expect the same lineup as EDC.

    Coachella has successfully transformed into a trendy, mainsteam music festival. Have fun, ravers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaypalmsprings View Post
    Summarized into one sentence: "I didn't get a thicket."
    ^this

    when i saw the title of the thread, I thought for sure it was going to be, the festival is somehow dead because it sold out pre-sale. Not a thread about how it's too crowded and the EDM sucks. Why the 5/17/12 date if those problems plagued last year? All that said, having smaller crowds definately makes it a better experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boskodahmer View Post
    How can you be mad at someone who is having a good time with their friends and screaming the lyrics to a song. Yes it may be a bro who you despise, but how dare you feel superior to him for liking "better" music than him/her.
    This is exactly what I don't understand, especially at a festival where there are five options (plus Do Lab and Heineken Dome) at any given time. You don't have to see the act in question, and so just relax and accept that there are a ton of people who enjoy it. "Oh, look at that group of people, they are having the weekend of their lives at THAT set? I pity them, blah blah blah". A) who gives a shit which band it is as long as people are enjoying themselves at Coachella, and B) the man in charge seemed to think the band deserved a Coachella spot and belonged on the lineup, but I guess you know otherwise, right?

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    The Sahara hasn't been excellent overall in years. It certainly hasn't since I started going back. With that being said, 2012 was the first year it was atrocious. 2010 Sahara had Plastikman, Orbital and 2manyDJs; 2011 had Sasha, Shpongle, Sven Väth and The Twelves. I still hold out hope 2013 will have a much better edm lineup and that includes the Sahara.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyInTucson View Post
    The Sahara hasn't been excellent overall in years. It certainly hasn't since I started going back. With that being said, 2012 was the first year it was atrocious. 2010 Sahara had Plastikman, Orbital and 2manyDJs; 2011 had Sasha, Shpongle, Sven Väth and The Twelves. I still hold out hope 2013 will have a much better edm lineup and that includes the Sahara.
    as whiney as the OP is he's right (and the timing of his post pretty much confirms it's about his ticket), your hopes for 2013 I think are weak. Gone are the days when you could have an act like Kraftwerk close Sahara.

    The ONLY hope hangs on the dynamics of the festival changing from a financial standpoint. Right now it's a well oiled machine and there's no reason to tinker, not even to make some sort of ironic hipster statement by bringing in obscure acts and placing them prominently in the schedule. EDM is approaching its golden age (from a popularity standpoint) in this country and the labels and promoters are going to cash in on the wave.

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    Coachella is my baby! Stop talking trash about her! Sounds like someone didn't get the presale coachella tickets. Coachella isn't dead. Here's why. No other festival has Dr Dre and Mazzy Star NONE! Radiohead and Modeselektor were EPIC! the whole experience was so bad ass! I've gone to all 13 Coachella's and i will go to my 14th because there is nothing else like it. You go to the KROQ wennie roast then cause that was the worst line up EVER!) nothing else comes close! Nothing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw94086 View Post
    as whiney as the OP is he's right (and the timing of his post pretty much confirms it's about his ticket), your hopes for 2013 I think are weak. Gone are the days when you could have an act like Kraftwerk close Sahara.

    The ONLY hope hangs on the dynamics of the festival changing from a financial standpoint. Right now it's a well oiled machine and there's no reason to tinker, not even to make some sort of ironic hipster statement by bringing in obscure acts and placing them prominently in the schedule. EDM is approaching its golden age (from a popularity standpoint) in this country and the labels and promoters are going to cash in on the wave.
    Dance music is in a similar state as it was 20 years ago when shitty acts like Crystal Waters, Ya Kid K and C and C Music Factory were getting tons of air time. This whole Guetta / SHM / Avicci wera will implode in a few years after it runs its course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyInTucson View Post
    Dance music is in a similar state as it was 20 years ago when shitty acts like Crystal Waters, Ya Kid K and C and C Music Factory were getting tons of air time. This whole Guetta / SHM / Avicci wera will implode in a few years after it runs its course.
    I don't see this as analagous to 20 year ago at all. Those old acts you mentioned made money selling albums, air time was what mattered.
    Today these guys pack festivals. 20 years ago kids were packing festivals to see Pearl Jam and Beastie Boys and Maaaybe some hip hop acts.
    There were no EDM acts at festivals back then. Now they're comfortable on the mainstage.

    Yes I agree that acts like Avicii will die out in popularity, but some hybrid of that and whatever kind of live music exists in 10 years will be the aftermath, but who knows if festivals like Coachella will still be around then. In any case that's off in the future. For the next few years it'll be Skrillex and Avicii

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw94086 View Post
    I don't see this as analagous to 20 year ago at all. Those old acts you mentioned made money selling albums, air time was what mattered.
    Today these guys pack festivals. 20 years ago kids were packing festivals to see Pearl Jam and Beastie Boys and Maaaybe some hip hop acts.
    There were no EDM acts at festivals back then. Now they're comfortable on the mainstage.

    Yes I agree that acts like Avicii will die out in popularity, but some hybrid of that and whatever kind of live music exists in 10 years will be the aftermath, but who knows if festivals like Coachella will still be around then. In any case that's off in the future. For the next few years it'll be Skrillex and Avicii
    You're right but we are only 13 months removed from a year that had Sasha, Sven Vath, Shpongle, Leftfield, The Twelves and several other good EDM acts. It was the year that was so successful it made them say, "Fuck it, let's do it two weekends."

    Are we going to get Skrillex, Tiesto, Oakenfold, SHM, Avicii, Afrojack etc...? Absolutely, but I bet it's more like 2011 next year than 2012.

    I had this discussion with Captn, Gribbz and Somewhat Damaged last friday night. I could be wrong with this, but it was almost as if 2012 was a trial run for the two weekends and they wanted to be absolutely certain it would sell out. What better way to do that than booking the biggest set of bro-centric DJ's and electronic acts Coachella has ever had?

    My hope is that they recognize that they can sellout both weekends no matter who they put on the lineup and they introduce these cheesetards to some electronic music with some depth behind it. Wishful thinking? Grasping for straws? Possibly. But I just don't see 2013 having the same level of EDM trash as 2012.
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    He makes a lot of valid points. Im going to miss the days of 2008. Insane acts like Portishead, Kraftwerk, Prince, Roger Waters, to a very empty feeling polo fields, being able to walk from the Sahara to Main stage in half the time it does now, no clusterfucks, just awesome music goers. Now its a struggle to get in to any tent or beer garden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulb View Post
    He makes a lot of valid points. Im going to miss the days of 2008. Insane acts like Portishead, Kraftwerk, Prince, Roger Waters, to a very empty feeling polo fields, being able to walk from the Sahara to Main stage in half the time it does now, no clusterfucks, just awesome music goers. Now its a struggle to get in to any tent or beer garden.
    I don't think the days of those types of lineups are over. The size of the crowd doesn't bother me either other than 2010.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyInTucson View Post
    I don't think the days of those types of lineups are over. The size of the crowd doesn't bother me either other than 2010.
    I think lineups aren't the problem, its the size of crowd that are now attending blindly, and using Coachella as a place to strictly party and be seen. For me it was about discovering great music I would have otherwise potentially never seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulb View Post
    I think lineups aren't the problem, its the size of crowd that are now attending blindly, and using Coachella as a place to strictly party and be seen. For me it was about discovering great music I would have otherwise potentially never seen.
    If someone was saying to you in 2008, that 'Coachella was better in 2003', what would you have said? Stop looking back? I think you are in danger of believing everything was better back then. Things seldom stay the same, the experience changes. Live in the moment and embrace the changes, otherwise you will find yourself becoming the crusty old guy at festivals who complains about 'selling out, the price of water, new acts etc'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigermilkboy View Post
    If someone was saying to you in 2008, that 'Coachella was better in 2003', what would you have said? Stop looking back? I think you are in danger of believing everything was better back then. Things seldom stay the same, the experience changes. Live in the moment and embrace the changes, otherwise you will find yourself becoming the crusty old guy at festivals who complains about 'selling out, the price of water, new acts etc'.
    well said, i agree with everything you said. The size of the crowd is my main issue with Coachella, I dont think its gone downhill at all, just the audience its attracted through some questionable bookings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigermilkboy View Post
    If someone was saying to you in 2008, that 'Coachella was better in 2003', what would you have said? Stop looking back? I think you are in danger of believing everything was better back then. Things seldom stay the same, the experience changes. Live in the moment and embrace the changes, otherwise you will find yourself becoming the crusty old guy at festivals who complains about 'selling out, the price of water, new acts etc'.
    Actually I have several friends from here(Palm Springs) who have been going since 02, and they tell me that the experience was very similar from 02-08.The first year they noticed a shift was 09(surprise surprise it was when EDM started blowing up, and the sahara started turning to shit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulb View Post
    I think lineups aren't the problem, its the size of crowd that are now attending blindly, and using Coachella as a place to strictly party and be seen. For me it was about discovering great music I would have otherwise potentially never seen.
    sounds like you should have been going to SXSW this whole time

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyInTucson View Post
    I don't think the days of those types of lineups are over. The size of the crowd doesn't bother me either other than 2010.
    2010 was not bad at all. Last year was terrible. So many people and one big clusterfuck. 2010 was smooth and easy. I chose not to buy a ticket on lay away like I did the last two years. I feel a cash in is coming.

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