Why are all the stages shut down for dre and snoop?

[hippityhip]

Rap just isnt great live at all. It doesn't compare to the other music genres , not even close.

You are absolutely wrong.

[glitterlazerz]

I guess you didn't know about the presets last year

still bitter i didn't know of them until after the fact. they're flawless and i just sat around during kanye.

[Nealocus]

Yeah I'm with you Ive tried the rap headliner thing enough already . It's not my thing. Kanye sucked for me . Eminem was ok . Rap just isnt great live at all. It doesn't compare to the other music genres , not even close.

You haven't seen good rap then.

[girmaff420]

I was hoping I'd have some alternatives but gv decided to fuck me.

Hey GoldenVoice? Do you think we could go to the general store after Snoop & Dre and buy some condoms for the next time you decide to FUCK ME?

Gangster rap is the last thing i want to leave with from coachella.

"Gangster rap" WILL be the last thing you will leave with from Coachella. /grammarjoke

[WhatLies]

This. Best decision of the weekend last year.

I would have to agree even though i wasn't even there lol. Back in 09 it was the best decision to catch their set and then run over to the rest of macca's set

still bitter i didn't know of them until after the fact. they're flawless and i just sat around during kanye.

coachella growing pains... do your research! I hope you've heard of the black angels and amon tobin....

[psycobetabuckdown]

The dre and snoop performance is a once in a life time moment. I haven't seen them both together in concert since 2000.

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[NoMeansYes2010]

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Yeah, this comment is a bit ironic. (the one you quoted)

[juloxx]

Well you and the rest of the Kandy Kids can have fun exchanging bracelets at DJ levels

[HandBanana]

You are absolutely wrong.

Name 10 rap acts that can play a big stage and put on a good show.
Not just have great, classic songs (as Dre and Snoop do) but put on a good show that is interesting to watch on a big stage.
I love Dre and Snoop. Dre alone has soundtracked most of my life. That doesn't mean he's gonna be able to fill the shoes that come with playing that slot and stage.

[Gribbz]

Most hip hop does suck live. However, I've seen Dre and Snoop and they put on one hell of a show. Jurassic 5 too.

[juloxx]

Name 10 rap acts that can play a big stage and put on a good show.
Not just have great, classic songs (as Dre and Snoop do) but put on a good show that is interesting to watch on a big stage.
I love Dre and Snoop. Dre alone has soundtracked most of my life. That doesn't mean he's gonna be able to fill the shoes that come with playing that slot and stage.

Tech N9ne (I dont even like his music)
Outkast
Snoop (w/o dre)
De La Soul
Wu-Tang (thats like 9 people right there)
Method Man w/ or w/o Redman
Odd Future
Devin the Dude
Murs
Ice Cube
The Game
Cypress Hill
Pharoah Monch
A Tribe Called Quest


Maybe not all of them can put on a great show with a big stage (whatever that means), but I know most of them do

[Mr. Dylanja]

Jay-Z puts on the best show.

Method Man is the best performer.


And then way down below there's everyone else.

[HandBanana]

Tech N9ne (I dont even like his music)
Outkast
Snoop (w/o dre) - Was just OK when I saw him
De La Soul - were just OK on the very same stage we are talking about in 2010
Wu-Tang (thats like 9 people right there) - Were just OK at RTB on a similar size stage
Method Man w/ or w/o Redman
Odd Future - Surely you have some sort of proof right, seeing as how they were lackluster on a smaller stage last year
Devin the Dude
Murs
Ice Cube - Saw him at the height of his powers in 92 at a club that held maybe 500 and it was one of the worst shows Ive ever seen.
The Game
Cypress Hill - Know how to at least mount a stage show so Ill give you that.
Pharoah Monch
A Tribe Called Quest - Can actually perform


Maybe not all of them can put on a great show with a huge stage, but I know most of them can.

And the question wasn't "who did you have a good time when you saw live" the question is about which rappers can put on more of a show than "rap and walk over here, rap and walk over there" and hardly any of the ones you listed do. Hip Hop is what like 40 years old now? And you can't list a dozen acts that put on a real live interesting stage show.
Also "but I know most of them can" doesn't really scan in the age of every show in the world getting uploaded to Youtube. So prove that The Game can handle a big stage.

[Mr. Dylanja]

Tech N9ne (I dont even like his music)
Outkast
Snoop (w/o dre)
De La Soul
Wu-Tang (thats like 9 people right there)
Method Man w/ or w/o Redman
Odd Future
Devin the Dude
Murs
Ice Cube
The Game
Cypress Hill
Pharoah Monch
A Tribe Called Quest


Maybe not all of them can put on a great show with a big stage (whatever that means), but I know most of them do

I'd add Atmosphere, Mos Def and Common to that list. And where's Eminem?

Wu-Tang is very hit or miss, mostly miss.
Odd future is a shitty hipster version of Wu Tang.
Does Ice Cube still make music? Did I miss the latest Disney soundtrack or something?

And if you're going to say Outkast, you might as well say Tupac and Biggie because that's not happening.

[HandBanana]

Oh and Murs actually is pretty great live, but he would drown on the Coachella stage in under 3 songs. You'd be off to Spicy Pie.

[Mr. Dylanja]

And the question wasn't "who did you have a good time when you saw live" the question is about which rappers can put on more of a show than "rap and walk over here, rap and walk over there" and hardly any of the ones you listed do. Hip Hop is what like 40 years old now? And you can't list a dozen acts that put on a real live interesting stage show.
Also "but I know most of them can" doesn't really scan in the age of every show in the world getting uploaded to Youtube. So prove that The Game can handle a big stage.

Jay-Z is the only one, but he's not a rapper, he's a rock star.

[GuyInTucson]

Eminem used to put on a good live show but his performances became more boring as he got older.

Nas and Damian Marley were really good last year, but I saw Nas by himself about 9 years ago and it was the dullest hip hop performance I have ever seen.

I saw Kool Keith a few times in the late 90's and early 2000's and all of his shows were really good. Same with Aceyalone.

Matt is right on about Jurassic 5 being good live.

I agree with Dylan on Jay-Z.

And I saw Snoop perform with a live band back in 2004 and the show was surprisingly awesome.

[gaypalmsprings]

I've seen Eminem and I loved him.
I've seen Snoop Dogg and I didn't care for him.
I've never seen Dr. Dre.

It would be OK if only Eminem showed up.

[GuyInTucson]

Eminem isn't the same anymore, unfortunately. I saw him in 1999 and he played the entire Slim Shady LP and two songs he released for Rawkus records. He also freestyled for about three and a half minutes straight and his entire performance had a lot of energy. His shows were like that for a couple of years.

Then I saw him in 2004 and it was night and day, in comparison. No energy, only performed like one to two verses per song and the show was very weak overall.

[HandBanana]

BTW there's nothing at all wrong with hip hop working better on record and in smaller rooms.
That's totally fine.
I just hope they have something special up their sleeve if they are darkening the other stages for this (and "Hey look, its Tha Dogg Pound" isn't special)

Based on GV's track record doing this during the Gorillaz abortion in 2010, I wouldn't hold my breath.

[fetuspiniata]

Sage Francis :P

[juloxx]

Ya how I forgot to mention Jigga. Foolish mistake

Oh and Murs actually is pretty great live, but he would drown on the Coachella stage in under 3 songs. You'd be off to Spicy Pie.

He has played Coachella (2wice I believe). The time I saw him was fantastic, and there was a pretty big crowd.

I'd add Atmosphere, Mos Def and Common to that list. And where's Eminem?

Wu-Tang is very hit or miss, mostly miss.
Odd future is a shitty hipster version of Wu Tang.
Does Ice Cube still make music? Did I miss the latest Disney soundtrack or something?

And if you're going to say Outkast, you might as well say Tupac and Biggie because that's not happening.

Fair enough. Ice Cube doesnt make music, however I did see him at a sold out Boulder Theatre a year and a half ago, and it was really damn good. He had my boy WC with him, shit was pretty cash. OF shouldnt even be compared to Wu-Tang, but they can put on a fantastic show. They were still relativley new to the performance world at their Coachella show. I wasnt impressed, but I have seen them since. It was at a (much) smaller venue so its hard to compare, but I have heard they are getting better at performing to big crowds.


Im not denying live hip-hop musicians have a tendency to be boring. They dont have instruments to hid behind. They have to find means to entertain a crowd using just their voice. Talking into a mic isnt that cool to me. It really comes down to if you are seeing a rapper or an MC

People that have been in the game for as long as De La or Cube are still in it because they learned how to properly work a crowd. Tech N9ne is my favorite example of this. His music really sucks IMO, but damn, that guy knows how to put on a live performance. i dont even know how he does it. Ill try and post a youtube to show

[Slejor]

The Roots. One of the best band's I've ever seen live, but they do a lot more than hiphop.
Saw Wu-Tang last year and they were pretty lethargic.
Meth and Red together are a good show. A lot of energy.
Same goes for Lupe Fiasco. He had a full band and a great show. Most songs sounded better than on his albums.

[HandBanana]

BTW this is how a hip hop show should be

[hippityhip]

Name 10 rap acts that can play a big stage and put on a good show.
Not just have great, classic songs (as Dre and Snoop do) but put on a good show that is interesting to watch on a big stage.
I love Dre and Snoop. Dre alone has soundtracked most of my life. That doesn't mean he's gonna be able to fill the shoes that come with playing that slot and stage.

Sorry just saw this. Your post is a bit loaded but I'll answer it. Of course we all have our on thoughts and ideas on who puts on a great live show and what not. I can tell you who I personally believe put on a hell of a show.

Outkast
De La Soul
Living Legends
Black Star (also Talib & Mos seperately)
Gang Starr
Wu-Tang (I was lucky enough to see all ten before ODB passed. 2004 I believe?)
Tribe Called Quest fucking killed it at RTB a few years back
The Roots
Little Brother
Jay Z

My response to MostlyMellow was because he/she gave an absolute and said rap isn't great AT ALL live. Just gotta go see some good hip hop. That will fix that opinion.

[hippityhip]

^ those are all acts I've seen btw

[Vic Viper]

the thought of somebody not being at presets last year is so depressing.

jesus i get chills just thinking about it.

[hippityhip]

the thought of somebody not being at presets last year is so depressing.

jesus i get chills just thinking about it.

Presets were amazeballs

[juloxx]

Also I feel like Vanilla Ice puts on a bomb show, I mean who else has production like this?

[HandBanana]

Actually it doesn't quite count but I saw Guru'a Jazzmatazz show in Chicago back when I went to school there and it was pretty amazing.