Set Time Predictions - SUNDAY

[HotHamWater]

Wiz Khalifa played the main stage during the day last year, and had some pretty crazy lyrics. Your theory has no merit.


But, really, I shouldn't get involved this year. I'll just show myself out.

No you shouldn't get involved if you are comparing Wiz and The Weeknd. They aren't even the same genre. It's not the drug references, it's the overall ambiance of their music. Wiz is happy, summery, laid back rap songs. Perfect for daytime. The Weeknd sounds like desperately drunk dialing an ex while on a coke comedown at 3:30 at night. I doubt anybody involved with the project has seen sunlight for months. The mixtapes reek of insomnia. Anybody who is remotely familiar with their music is going to agree. There is absolutely no way in hell they play main or daytime or even sunset. Nighttime in the Mojave or Outdoor are the only two options here.

If you don't want me to reference the lyrics, don't use that as your main point....

Absolutely no chance The Weeknd does not play after dark. Have you listened to their music? Songs about four am coke lines off of glass tables are not going to go over well at 5:00 in the afternoon. I also think their show is going to be more intimate, I really think Mojave at night is the best option.

Also, you're clearly more familiar with The Weeknd than anybody here, but isn't The Weeknd a "he" not a "they"?

[travelfan]

If you don't want me to reference the lyrics, don't use that as your main point....



Also, you're clearly more familiar with The Weeknd than anybody here, but isn't The Weeknd a "he" not a "they"?

Frankly I'm even a little unclear. Some think The Weeknd is just Abel, some think it's Abel and his producers. I have no clue.

I don't mention lyrics in that quote, but the topics his songs are about. Read it again. It's not the lyrics, it's the thematic elements and the overall ambiance. And it's not the drugs, it's the setting for them. He/they/whoever are an undisputed nighttime act, just like Gayngs last year.

[HotHamWater]

I'm not so sure that thematic elements are really considered when scheduling. That would be a giant subjective pain in the ass. If it's not directly related to the lyrics, then it's even more subjective and probably not worth Goldenvoice's time to think about. You seem somewhat reasonable because you shot down the "Goldenvoice doesn't put repeat bands on smaller stages" theory, and had good reasons, but I think you're reaching with this.

[Phantasma Del Mar]

ATDI and Le Butcherettes won't conflict. Omar's playing in both: http://lebutcherettes.net/post/15590930256#notes

Florence>>ATDI>>>Dr.Dre with Justice on the outdoor before Dre makes a lot of sense.

[rage patton]

You seem somewhat reasonable because you shot down the "Goldenvoice doesn't put repeat bands on smaller stages" theory...

Woh. So there are 4 examples of repeat bands being booked to smaller stages when they return and my theory has no credit? There are a ton of examples that show this to be true (see: all other repeat bookings), so I still think the theory holds water.

[theklein25]

Woh. So there are 4 examples of repeat bands being booked to smaller stages when they return and my theory has no credit? There are a ton of examples that show this to be true (see: all other repeat bookings), so I still think the theory holds water.

once a theory has been proven wrong it is no longer valid. in other words get over yourself

[HotHamWater]

Woh. So there are 4 examples of repeat bands being booked to smaller stages when they return and my theory has no credit? There are a ton of examples that show this to be true (see: all other repeat bookings), so I still think the theory holds water.

It's likely because bands are usually more popular when they come back, thus getting a bigger stage and a later time. Having that sort of scheduling rule is just too arbitrary. I seriously doubt that's a consideration that comes up in meetings. "How about Explosions in the Sky in the evening on the Outdoor?" "Oooooh you know we can't do that. They played the main in 2007 and we have that rule." An Outdoor slot at night is a higher booking than Main stage during the day, so it would make complete sense to put them on the Outdoor.

Bottom line: Goldenvoice will do what makes sense in the context of that year.

[rage patton]

It's likely because bands are usually more popular when they come back, thus getting a bigger stage and a later time. Having that sort of scheduling rule is just too arbitrary. I seriously doubt that's a consideration that comes up in meetings. "How about Explosions in the Sky in the evening on the Outdoor?" "Oooooh you know we can't do that. They played the main in 2007 and we have that rule." An Outdoor slot at night is a higher booking than Main stage during the day, so it would make complete sense to put them on the Outdoor.

Bottom line: Goldenvoice will do what makes sense in the context of that year.

I don't think it comes up in meetings at all because Paul T makes all the set times himself. He said that in an interview. Unless you are suggesting Paul T has meeting with himself. Then that is possible. But what I am saying is that I may just be a thing Paul T tries to do... not to put bands on a smaller stage on their return.

[paulb]

Woh. So there are 4 examples of repeat bands being booked to smaller stages when they return and my theory has no credit? There are a ton of examples that show this to be true (see: all other repeat bookings), so I still think the theory holds water.

Sonic Youth main stage 2003: Outdoor 2007

[HotHamWater]

But what I am saying is that I may just be a thing Paul T tries to do... not to put bands on a smaller stage on their return.

Except for when it makes sense to put bands on a smaller stage upon their return, for which there are examples. So, really, he just does whatever makes sense for that particular year.

[HotHamWater]

Josh, do you think DJ Shadow is a lock to play the Outdoor or Main this year? He played the Outdoor in 2007, so it would stand to reason that Paul wouldn't demote him. Right?

[DeadSkin]

I think you should switch Sleeper Agent and The Airplane Boys... Sleeper Agent is more of an "open the outdoor stage" kinda band. The Airplane Boys would do better in a tent.

[KickerConspiracy]

This is the worst of the predicted schedules. I'd have ATDI closing the Outdoor opposite Dre/Snoop. I like the Weeknd on the Main prior to Dre/Snoop. Maybe Justice switching slots with The Weeknd or in the Sahara. Modeselektor earlier in the day. DJ Shadow to close out Mojave.

[heart cooks brain]

you suck at this

[travelfan]

I'm not so sure that thematic elements are really considered when scheduling. That would be a giant subjective pain in the ass. If it's not directly related to the lyrics, then it's even more subjective and probably not worth Goldenvoice's time to think about. You seem somewhat reasonable because you shot down the "Goldenvoice doesn't put repeat bands on smaller stages" theory, and had good reasons, but I think you're reaching with this.

Jesus Christ you are an idiot. When an act is billed that high, is a big get (their/his first US performance), and not only fucking sounds like nighttime, but also the narrative to all their/his songs take place during nighttime, then of course it is worth Goldenvoice's time to think about it. Just listen to the records, look at the billing, and look at the fact that people have been calling them in the Gayngs slot and closing a tent/stage since before they even were on the poster. Seriously, in The Weeknd request threads.

Does anybody else in this thread think The Weeknd on during the day is even a remote possibility? The answer is no. So shut up.

[rage patton]

I dunno. Everyone thought Liars were a lock for a night time tent set... and they ended up on the Outdoor at 2pm.

[travelfan]

I dunno. Everyone thought Liars were a lock for a night time tent set... and they ended up on the Outdoor at 2pm.

Liars were billed on the seventh line. The Weeknd is the eighth name on the poster. I think they'll/he'll be getting a little bit more consideration as to optimal set time.

[KidRobot]

I think it is a given that given the direction the EDM is going this year that Beats Antique will be nowhere even NEAR the Sahara.

Is it just me or does Sunday seem to lack any bands that feel like outdoor material? Florence + the Machine outdoor maybe?

She has the right sound for Outdoor but is probably too big.

Also, you're clearly more familiar with The Weeknd than anybody here, but isn't The Weeknd a "he" not a "they"?

Almost sure that The Weeknd is simply Abel. I thought, for a while, that Illangelo, his producer, might be a part of the actual "group" but later gave up that theory because of their remix for Lady Gaga's 'Marry the Night' being written as 'Marry the Night (The Weeknd & Illangelo Remix)'.

Jesus Christ you are an idiot. When an act is billed that high, is a big get (their/his first US performance), and not only fucking sounds like nighttime, but also the narrative to all their/his songs take place during nighttime, then of course it is worth Goldenvoice's time to think about it. Just listen to the records, look at the billing, and look at the fact that people have been calling them in the Gayngs slot and closing a tent/stage since before they even were on the poster. Seriously, in The Weeknd request threads.

Does anybody else in this thread think The Weeknd on during the day is even a remote possibility? The answer is no. So shut up.

No. The Weeknd will not be on during the day. Don't even know why this idea is even being entertained.

[guedita]

Is there some sort of insider information onto the projected reclusive nature of The Weekend? And is that why he is such a huge get, because we know that he's not going to like, tour the fucking fuck out of his material in 2012?

[KidRobot]

Is there some sort of insider information onto the projected reclusive nature of The Weekend? And is that why he is such a huge get, because we know that he's not going to like, tour the fucking fuck out of his material in 2012?

I think the "huge get" part comes from this being his first announced show in the US. I read a quote from Drake yesterday that foreshadowed a tour for The Weeknd so it isn't like it's going to be rare per se.

This kind of explains his reclusive nature though: http://exclaim.ca/Features/OnTheCover/waiting_on_weeknd

[guedita]

You don't say.

[xanman86]

Is there some sort of insider information onto the projected reclusive nature of The Weekend? And is that why he is such a huge get, because we know that he's not going to like, tour the fucking fuck out of his material in 2012?

The Weeknd. Check yoself before you wreck yoself.

[werner12123]

This is the worst of the predicted schedules. I'd have ATDI closing the Outdoor opposite Dre/Snoop. I like the Weeknd on the Main prior to Dre/Snoop. Maybe Justice switching slots with The Weeknd or in the Sahara. Modeselektor earlier in the day. DJ Shadow to close out Mojave.

Your predictions are bad and you should feel bad.

[Ride a Tire!]

The Weeknd is the eighth name on the poster.

Seventh, with La Roux missing.

[zimmy1222]

modeselektor is definitely in the sahara, beats antique is definitely not.

[Prelude]

Lol@this ATDI vs Le Butcherettes conflict. Did this guy look anything up?

[Weatherman]

I don't see Band of Skulls plying as an early Mojave act, at least currently. Either later on or at least Outdoor.

[DFrank]

Justice vs Dada Life? Dont see that happening. Way too similar fan base...The sahara would be empty for Dada Life.

I like where Justice is now, but guessing their slot/stage correctly is the hardest one on the lineup.

[Edmontonian]

I doubt the Growlers would close the Gobi, more likely acts to close IMO: Greg Ginn, Wild Flag, Beats Antique or Araabmuzik.

Not especially helpful but ya I don't the the Growlers deserve such billing..

[heart cooks brain]

Lol@this ATDI vs Le Butcherettes conflict. Did this guy look anything up?

you ungrateful fuck