Set Time Predictions - SATURDAY

[Reeber]

This is my first year coming to coachella so not to sure what time the sun sets but from what i've heard sub focus is bringing his light show so hes definately going on late.

[Genowarp]

100% he is going on at night.. cant wait!

[kerby14]

ya sub focus after dark

and to whoever said gary clark jr on the mainstage or outdoor needs to read the post in this thread saying he was confirmed in gobi already

[Lemonpie]

ya sub focus after dark

and to whoever said gary clark jr on the mainstage or outdoor needs to read the post in this thread saying he was confirmed in gobi already

That was from KCRW with Jason Bentley, where people have claimed he is unreliable. You should read the whole post in this thread to know that already.

[fibes]

Seriously. What kind of an asshole promises consistent updates and then there's virtually nothing nearly 2 months later?

lol

[travelfan]

I know these threads are pretty much dead, but I've been thinking about the close of this day.

I really think David Guetta will close the Sahara with some extended cheesefest. I cannot think of any significant fan overlap between Radiohead and Guetta. Zero. If there is, it's the kind of thing like, "Ooooh, I love Radiohead because they do that song Creep, I would see them I guess", or "David Guetta? Hmm maybe if I want to dance a little bit and there is nobody playing that I like." I can't fathom who would seriously be gunning to see both acts. Jigga and Deadmau5 I can, Radiohead and Guetta I can't.

Also, David Guetta, whether you love him or hate him (I am firmly in the "hate" camp, by the way) is huge to the point where people were questioning if he'd fit in the Sahara. Put him against the headliner and he certainly can. In this case, put Ingrosso where Kaskade is, Kaskade where Guetta is, and Guetta where Ingrosso is. In exchange for going against the headliner, Guetta gets a long set where he can do his whole robots and Nicki Minaj thing. I think he'll be more than fine with that.

If that's the case, and you have two huge draws at the same time, then the other two stages would have to be a complete 180 in terms of fan base. I think A$AP makes sense closing a stage, because he's nowhere near poppy enough to compete with Guetta, and probably a little too "swagged out" and aggressive to create too many RH/A$AP conflicts. I think, as much as it pains me to say it because I'm setting myself up for conflicts, but move Flying Lotus down a bit so he still plays at night but doesn't conflict with Radiohead, and move somebody up from a genre that would be the last element in a RH/Guetta/A$AP conflict...Black Lips?

[KidRobot]

In your Radiohead/Guetta/A$AP case, I actually agree Flying Lotus would play earlier (barring that I have a feeling that he will be playing earlier anyway, simply because a Radiohead/FlyLo conflict just seems too aggravating). But with Radiohead and Guetta (two of the biggest performers in their respective genres) going head to head, I couldn't see another performer who would cross paths with either genre also playing. Flying Lotus' genre would be a prime example of crossing both paths: the experimental nature of Radiohead and the EDM nature of Guetta (no matter how different the two may seem). With Flying Lotus' set being a debut of his new album, I am hoping that Goldenvoice give him an appropriate time: one where he can debut it to as many people as possible.

[travelfan]

Black Lips. It has to be. Unless I'm missing something obvious, in this hypothetical situation all of the indie and quiet leaning stuff is out because of a RH conflict, most of the fun pop stuff or EDM leaning stuff is out because of Guetta, and hip-hop is out because of A$AP. Rowdy, drunken, flower punk party to end the night? I think enough people would be down for that to fill up the Mojave at least half way full (not that Black Lips give a shit about how many people show up), even with going against Radiohead and Guetta. It's painful for me to say this because A$AP and Black Lips were both really high on my list, but that seems more likely than Flying Lotus against RH.

[theklein25]

Guetta will be on during Bon Iver... the end

[Lemonpie]

Black Lips. It has to be. Unless I'm missing something obvious, in this hypothetical situation all of the indie and quiet leaning stuff is out because of a RH conflict, most of the fun pop stuff or EDM leaning stuff is out because of Guetta, and hip-hop is out because of A$AP. Rowdy, drunken, flower punk party to end the night? I think enough people would be down for that to fill up the Mojave at least half way full (not that Black Lips give a shit about how many people show up), even with going against Radiohead and Guetta. It's painful for me to say this because A$AP and Black Lips were both really high on my list, but that seems more likely than Flying Lotus against RH.

You think they will make the black lips close against the headliner again? I could see fIREHOSE closing it with most likely an extremely small crowd size but with a somewhat cult following and the people would be pleased.

[travelfan]

You think they will make the black lips close against the headliner again? I could see fIREHOSE closing it with most likely an extremely small crowd size but with a somewhat cult following and the people would be pleased.

They made the Presets do it.

[seitron]

That's actually a really good case for Guetta against Radiohead, I hadn't thought of that. I hope that actually happens.

[frizzlefry]

You think they will make the black lips close against the headliner again? I could see fIREHOSE closing it with most likely an extremely small crowd size but with a somewhat cult following and the people would be pleased.

They won't hesitate to give any small act this shitty slot just in case there is a fringe group that doesn't care the world about the indie headliner but can't stand the cheesiness in the Sahara. R.I.P Daedalus 2011

[CitizenJ]

They won't hesitate to give any small act this shitty slot just in case there is a fringe group that doesn't care the world about the indie headliner but can't stand the cheesiness in the Sahara. R.I.P Daedalus 2011

Yea. Throbbing Gristle was booked during The Cure in 2009. I remember halfway through The Cures set deciding to wander the polo grounds toward the sahara, and noticed throbbing gristle "playing" to a crowd of like 200 people.

[werner12123]

They won't hesitate to give any small act this shitty slot just in case there is a fringe group that doesn't care the world about the indie headliner but can't stand the cheesiness in the Sahara. R.I.P Daedalus 2011

That crowd was so small, it made me sad.

[nbvcide]

i see Sebastian Ingrosso closing just like axwell and angello did last year..

[travelfan]

i see Sebastian Ingrosso closing just like axwell and angello did last year..

But Angello and Axwell were the highest billed Sahara acts of their night, Ingrosso is third (even though the cheese level is ridiculous, the Sahara has infinitely more starpower this year). Could the billing have had more to do with closing the tent rather than the Swedish House Mafia connection? This is an honest question. In 2011, two nights the highest billed Sahara acts conflicted with the headliner, while on Friday the highest billed EDM act played the main while the second highest EDM act, and the highest billed Sahara (Sasha), conflicted with the headliner. In 2010, Deadmau5 (the highest billed Sahara act, LCD played main) conflicted directly with the headliner, Guetta (the highest billed Sahara act) had at least half his set conflict with Muse, and then there's Orbital who played for 50 minutes at an awkward slot because they were so rare and PT was likely trying to make sure everybody could see all of the ultra rare acts.

So, in the past two years, the highest billed act in the Sahara conflicted directly with the headliner four times, half conflicted once, and didn't conflict at all once (for Orbital, on a day that was notoriously overbooked with rare must see acts). Given that Guetta is a repeat and about as rare as red eyes at a Cypress Hill show, why is everybody so sure that he won't go against a headliner that there is absolutely no fan overlap with? To make everything "fair" for Sebastian after he got to close out the main stage the night before? What is Paul Tollett, a baby boomer parent?

[travelfan]

Plus somebody earlier in the thread said they read some article or saw some interview where Guetta said he would close out the Sahara. There was no link so, given the board, the credibility could be less than zero, but it's worth mentioning. I see the progression going Ingrosso --> Kaskade --> Guetta.

[IzGewd]

^^
YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP

[Mr. Porter]

All I ask for on Saturday is Kaskade and FlyLo NOT CONFLICTING

[KidRobot]

Guetta can easily conflict with the headliner. I don't know anyone who would see a "conflict" between Radiohead and David Guetta.

[Genowarp]

guetta going up against radiohead makes total sense. he can still pack the sahara tent with a huge crowd. i have a feeling this years coachella, the ravers will be the majority. kandi will rule the fields in 2012

[frizzlefry]

Maybe weekend 2 but I think weekend one will have the average mix of hipsters, ravers, bros, actual music lovers, and the occasional jaded EDM lover

[concertgoer]

Maybe weekend 2 but I think weekend one will have the average mix of hipsters, ravers, bros, actual music lovers, and the occasional jaded EDM lover

Agreed especially since almost all of the weekend one passes were sold during the pre-sale.

[Alchemy]

Kaiser Chiefs vs Jeff Magnum. Ouch.

[CoachellaVet09]

Gary Clark Jr. will not be playing at night. He gave a statement saying he would be playing saturday night, but he just meant saturday.

Seriously, he's billed in the last spot of the second to last line and you have him playing at 9:15. He only has an EP and a few cover's worth of songs to work with, he wont be on that late/long.

He's awesome and all, and i will be seeing him, but he wont be starting his set later than 2, i guarantee

[concertgoer]

Kaiser Chiefs vs Jeff Magnum. Ouch.

I am not a Mangum fan so easy choice for me.

[heart cooks brain]

guetta going up against radiohead makes total sense. he can still pack the sahara tent with a huge crowd. i have a feeling this years coachella, the ravers will be the majority. kandi will rule the fields in 2012

HEADLINES FROM THE FUTURE

'Coachella Festival Double Weekend Marred by Drug-Related Deaths'

[werner12123]

Gary Clark Jr. will not be playing at night. He gave a statement saying he would be playing saturday night, but he just meant saturday.

Seriously, he's billed in the last spot of the second to last line and you have him playing at 9:15. He only has an EP and a few cover's worth of songs to work with, he wont be on that late/long.

He's awesome and all, and i will be seeing him, but he wont be starting his set later than 2, i guarantee

Thinks he has all the answers

[Highly Refined Pirate]

Hes a coachella veteran, man. He's been droppin knowledge since '09.