EDC Las Vegas 2012

[theresalwaysone]

theres no techo specific stage but there was a stage last year that consisted mostly of what seemed to be live and techo- glitch mob, plastikman, empire of the sun etc

nvm looking back at that stage there wasnt much techno

I'm not surprised someone as handicapped as yourself is incapable of looking at a chart of set times to determine which stage has which genre of music.

[theresalwaysone]

Is EDC the only Insomniac event that doesn't have a techno stage?

No sir. EDC takes care of the techno peoples. Although Sunday was really devoid of anything good (they may have overstretched themselves with the 3 day format and scrambling to book a festival while trying to find a venue) both Friday and Saturday were really good. Insomniac does a good job of grouping genres and acts at stages with lots of crossover interest. On Friday, the cosmic meadow featured Plastikman. Then on Saturday, they booked all the techno artists on the Circuit Grounds stage. I assume it was to give a bit of variety to people with specific tastes. Someone who was at the cosmic meadow for Plastikman is also going to be at the Richie Hawtin/Green Velvet/Umek/Gaiser stage the next day. So why not switch it up and give those people a taste of a different part of the festival?

The techno is going to be solid this year.

[Nick o]

LMAO this came up on my screen and made my fucking day

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[theresalwaysone]

But you clicked on it anyways.

[Nick o]

ahahha it came up again, guy must be so fucking mad

[theresalwaysone]

Nobody has even adressed my initial argument, all Insomniac events recycle a very large portion of the talent. Seitron says he hasn't been to EDC since 2010, which seems like a large enough gap between attending events that you'd want to go back and see a remarkably similar line-up in a new location, but for the people in here that do nothing but attend every Insomniac event like Beyond Wonderland, EDC, whatever halloween rave they're having now, etc, don't you get bored as fuck of going to an event that is remarkably similar EVERY time??

I'd love to address your claim. In fact, I'll probably even retort. But, first, I need you to specifically define what "remarkably similar EVERY time" means.

[seitron]

Very few? I'm not trying to slag the festival but the notion that EDC has recently booked all but a few DJ's whom regularly tour the US is nothing short of ridiculous. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you somehow.

I mean the DJs that I/We collectively care about. Whatever this point isn't worth arguing any further than this.

[SepaGroove]

Just bought EDC tickets and it was a lot of dough so I hope they don't disappoint with the lineup

[Nick o]

Just bought EDC tickets and it was a lot of dough so I hope they don't disappoint with the lineup

its going to easily sell out this year so if you dont like the lineup you can always sell your tickets

[SepaGroove]

Yeah you're probably right.

[Nick o]

its already 80% sold out and a single name hasnt even been officially announced from the lineup yet. theyre also only going to offer a VERY small amount of 1 day tickets because theyve sold/will sell so many 3 day passes

[Mugwog]

Its gonna be amazecat thats why

Everyone gets a free eternal kitten (never turns into cat)

[guedita]

I mean the DJs that I/We collectively care about. Whatever this point isn't worth arguing any further than this.

This only lends credence to hangthedj's claim, though. And since when did Victor Calderone start playing techno? In all fairness, that all techno stage still isn't really that impressive.

[hangthedj112]

Not to mention, they're recycling a large portion of the talent because they're getting almost everybody in the EDM scene. How the fuck is that a bad thing again?

HAHAHAHAHahahahahhaha, wow....
I hope one day you expand your taste in EDM and realize what an incredibly stupid and inaccurate statement this is.

Last year the Circuit Grounds was all techno on Saturday only.

Hernan Cattaneo
Pleasurekraft
Green Velvet
Gaiser
Umek
Richie Hawtin
Victore Calderone

Pleasurekraft is NOT techno, learn 2 genre

[Wheres the beef?]

This only lends credence to hangthedj's claim, though. And since when did Victor Calderone start playing techno? In all fairness, that all techno stage still isn't really that impressive.

What's his claim? Oh that insomniac "recycles a very large portion of the talent pool". The logical absurdity of that statement aside, it's just not true. Specifically for artists that people here hold in high regard. Benny benassi and skrillex could play every year but it doesnt affect me because I'm not at that stage. So hangthedjs claim doesn't hold water either. Especially over the last 3-4 events the techno lineups have been better than anything going on in north america outside of detroit or miami. I guess if you go back far enough you'll find acts that repeat but if someone like sasha is going to repeat, I'm okay with that.

And I suppose that one lineup on that one night doesnt look that great on paper but they had alot of growing pains last year. Everything I've heard about what is in store for this year point to it being a banner year.

[Nick o]

people complain about recycling talent? wow there's a reason that there's 5 STAGES, theres a very high chance that during almost every time slot you'd be able to see someone you havent seen before

[stacheRides]

people complain about recycling talent? wow there's a reason that there's 5 STAGES, theres a very high chance that during almost every time slot you'd be able to see someone you havent seen before

^ This. If you're not seeing someone new then it's your own fault that you're bored, the best part of a festival is that you have options.

[seitron]

Wow, i might have found someone that pisses me off more than sonicc.

[Mugwog]

Eh Pleasurekraft may not be techno but their set got fucking down last year, one of my favorites! Hope they repeat with a later time slot
8/9pm artist for sure suffered last year due to hectic entry situation

[guedita]

hangthedj's claim is that there is a large pool of artists that always play at their events. It's a pretty fucking basic claim, and it's true, and I don't know why you dummies want to try and say that it isn't true, regardless of whether or not this pool of acts are artists that you care about.

And no, they aren't getting everyone in the EDM scene, in the slightest. That is truly one of the stupidest things that has been said in here.

[Mugwog]

Oh yeah?

[guedita]

It's not as if there's anything inherently wrong with Insomniac's model; they also bring other acts you might not get to see and want to see, and on the west coast they are one of the only large scale events bringing a high quantity of EDM out here. But at least call a spade a fucking spade.

[soursour]

its going to easily sell out this year so if you dont like the lineup you can always sell your tickets

Weren't Ultra tickets going for under face value?

[choice cat]

HAHAHAHAHahahahahhaha, wow....
I hope one day you expand your taste in EDM and realize what an incredibly stupid and inaccurate statement this is.

Ok, so what edm events have you gone to recently that you have enjoyed, and haven't had recycled talent etc? You come in here and other threads and just want to bad mouth Insomniac, so why don't you share with us the deck of cards that you are working with. Tell us where all the super underground, rare edm acts are being booked, where are these festivals?

[Mugwog]

Underground parties are so shady, I have a friend working in a crew right now and she's been fucked over by a few people in the scene, but they push on. Her husband plays live music from machines, but barely gets a solid slot. I tried to help em out before, but its very hard to go to those events as you get older and you see a bunch of kids who are in tutus and just trying to find drugs or need to find more drugs.

EDC and Insomniac events don't always trump the lineup for Hard events, but the production quality is through the roof compared to a lot of other events I've been too. Anywho - I'm excited for EDC week, I probably won't do LiB or Sasquatch since my mind will be recovering from *********

[Mugwog]

Weren't Ultra tickets going for under face value?

This year? I know last year people were paying up to $800 for a 3 day pass, when they were originally $250 (?)

[Oranix]

art department will be in LA sunday before edc... maybe theyll be at edc?

edit: nvm, i think theyll be in europe that weekend. tits

[tmac]

people couldnt give away ultra tix this year. they were going for way under face

where is art department playing in LA?

[Oranix]

people couldnt give away ultra tix this year. they were going for way under face

where is art department playing in LA?

Standard hotel

[seitron]

hangthedj's claim is that there is a large pool of artists that always play at their events. It's a pretty fucking basic claim, and it's true, and I don't know why you dummies want to try and say that it isn't true, regardless of whether or not this pool of acts are artists that you care about.

And no, they aren't getting everyone in the EDM scene, in the slightest. That is truly one of the stupidest things that has been said in here.

Yeah there are a large pool of artists that always play at the events, because they have five stages over three days. He's claiming that the lineups are always identical so we shouldn't care about the lineup, which is absolute bullshit. They do a good job of changing the lineups considering how many fucking artists they pull every year. It's a lot easier to change up the lineups for a two day two stage event like HARD - EDC has just as much variation, but since they have so many stages there is a fuckton of overlap. Plus, you can't see every single person on the lineup, so it doesn't matter if they pull the some of the same artists because not everyone gets a chance to see them all. Even if you went to every single fucking insomniac event the whole year you could still get away without seeing an artist more than once, and sets change from year to year.

If they aren't getting everyone in the EDM scene, fine, I don't care. Sorry I don't know hundreds and hundreds of artists, clearly I know nothing about music. I honestly cannot think of anyone that they haven't pulled besides Eric Prydz and Daft Punk for obvious reasons. They pull all the EDM acts I've heard from the genres I listen to and then a ton more which introduces me to new music, but obviously this isn't good enough. Maybe their events would be better if they had shittier djs play just for the sake of novelty.

Handthedj is asking us to address his argument that there is overlap between the years - no shit, but that doesn't mean that parts of the lineup aren't new. We're excited for those acts. We're not arguing that there isn't overlap, we're arguing that there is reason to excited for the lineup in spite of the overlap.