SAVE OUR STATE (CALIFORNIA RALLY)

[RODGERRAMJET]

What: Rally against ILLEGAL immigration, planned by the organization Save Our State.

When: Noon Saturday

Where: San Bernardino City Hall,

300 N. D St.

San Bernardino, CA USA

[Tylerdurden31]

hahaha....this is gonna fly real well here

[J~$$$]

YEAH!!!!! its always been my dream since I was a young boy to tend the lettuce fields for $5.25 an hour.....now, that dream may come true!

[caco0283]

hmmmmm ill be good today

[TomAz]

http://www.californiaprogressreport....groups_in.html

[TomAz]

Immigration protesters joined by neo-Nazis in California

Anti-immigration activist Joe Turner may be one of the best things to happen to the Southern California white power community in years — a man whose group is seen as a "Trojan horse" allowing radical infiltration of mainstream politics.

Turner, a Ventura, Calif., man who founded the immigrant-bashing Save Our State organization in late 2004, insists that he's no racist, even though his self-described "aggressive activism" includes claims that undocumented Mexican workers are turning California into "a third world cesspool" and his Web site vilifies a variety of prominent Hispanic officials in a "Racialist Hall of Fame."

But neo-Nazis have found in Turner a tolerant master of ceremonies. In rally after rally this year, Turner and other SOS officials have failed to turn away racist Skinheads and likeminded white supremacists who have joined their protests.

Swastikas and sieg heils aren't usually welcome on the streets of Southern California, but Turner's followers, including SOS spokesman Don Silva, have been photographed standing alongside Skinheads clad in high black boots with red laces. Most recently, swastika pennants and Confederate battle flags were hoisted alongside Turner's own picket signs during a July 30 protest outside a day laborer center in Laguna Beach. One group in the crowd sieg-heiled repeatedly.

Turner has told members of his Web site's forum that he opposes white supremacists joining his protests, and he wrote to the Intelligence Report "there seems to be very little we can do to keep them from piggybacking off our activism. ... [W]e are unable to really do anything about it."

He has also banned a few white supremacists from his forum. But many others have posted racist attacks on Hispanics – attacks that are left on his Web site as long as they don't directly advocate violence.

SOS forum member "Chris 2005," for instance, offered this up on July 25: "Mexicans are like pigs. They are by far the filthiest f-ing animals. I have also felt like I needed to get into a hot bathtub of water and soap and just soak until the filth comes off me after being near any of them. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them!"

Nine days later, the statement was still there.

And then there are Turner's own statements in his forum. "I am sick and tired of all the white bashing that goes on through the use of political correctness as an indoctrinating tool," he wrote on July 16.

"I am sick and tired of multiculturalism, meaning, let's celebrate every culture as long as it isn't a European/white culture." During the same exchange, Turner also wrote that "just because one believes in white separatism that does not make them a racist."

All in all, white supremacists are delighted.

Posting on the neo-Nazi Stormfront Web site forum, one person described Turner's operation as a "Trojan horse" that radical racists can use to infiltrate more mainstream political discourse.

"The tide is turning in our favor in the movement against illegal aliens," this poster wrote in March. "The grass roots sentiment against this invasion is finally making its voice heard and [at] many different levels. This is a movement every WN [white nationalist] should support and be active in. It moves in our direction even as it does not even acknowledge, or even know, that the WN movement exists. Anti-alien activism is a no-loose [sic] for WN."

[blakely]

this is not something i would expect from a gay man.... but stranger things have happened, i guess...

[gaypalmsprings]

this is not something i would expect from a gay man..

who's gay?

[blakely]

who's gay?

the threadstart.....

[caco0283]

i think i found a new board to bother....goodbye coachella message board...helllooooo racist fucks that are going to feel wrath of the color brown

[J~$$$]

Dont waste your time Caco.

[bartelby]

what loonies...

[instinct]

lol.. I'M SO DOWN!!

[J~$$$]

Its funny because you will have a bunch of jerkoffs protesting at city hall on Saturday when no one is there and the people with real lives will out be working for the money these lazy fucks will never see. The greatest thing to happen to one of these assholes is to have a mexican boss.

[caco0283]

white man stands up for mexicans...i love this!!!!

[TomAz]

"it's not an open container bitch"

ahahahahahahahahahaahhaaa

[blakely]

damn it, damn it, damn it... i dont have sound at work....

[bartelby]

why would someone even film that?

[caco0283]

the guy is motherfucking CIA....thats why they filmed it

[bartelby]

the guy is motherfucking CIA....thats why they filmed it

true dat...

[RODGERRAMJET]

I don't have any problem with any race, and that includes brothers and sisters from Mexico. I'm all for people who want to become US citizens. After all, the State of Liberty says, "Come." HOWEVER, I am against border jumpers--illegals--who just show up and say, "Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie". If ya wanna come here to work. Fine. Do it legally and through the proper channels. If ya wanna live here, fine. Enter the country properly and with the right documentation--unforged, preferably. But don't jump the borders and expect this tax paying citizen to like it, esp. when your kids are getting free public education, better health care for free than I get (see info on The Healthy Kids grant) and have to PAY for, etc. etc. etc. We treat the illegals better than we treat our own citizens, and don't even get me started about how badly we treat our Vets of War.

[blakely]

I don't have any problem with any race, and that includes brothers and sisters from Mexico. I'm all for people who want to become US citizens. After all, the State of Liberty says, "Come." HOWEVER, I am against border jumpers--illegals--who just show up and say, "Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie". If ya wanna come here to work. Fine. Do it legally and through the proper channels. If ya wanna live here, fine. Enter the country properly and with the right documentation--unforged, preferably. But don't jump the borders and expect this tax paying citizen to like it, esp. when your kids are getting free public education, better health care for free than I get (see info on The Healthy Kids grant) and have to PAY for, etc. etc. etc. We treat the illegals better than we treat our own citizens, and don't even get me started about how badly we treat our Vets of War.

Do you actually understand what it is to live in absolute poverty you ignorant jack ass? Have you been into a third world country? I dont think you truly grasp the situation. Attaining a green card via "the correct channels" is almost unattainable in their country. So they come here and do the shitty menial labor that you would NEVER do and scrape by a living for themselves and their family. the simple fact that you have the privilege to relax at your home and casually complain about something that has little to know real effect on you sites the decadence of our society. There is something deeply wrong with you and your perception of life. Grow a heart and show some compassion for your fellow man. Dickweed.

[J~$$$]

I don't have any problem with any race, and that includes brothers and sisters from Mexico. I'm all for people who want to become US citizens. After all, the State of Liberty says, "Come." HOWEVER, I am against border jumpers--illegals--who just show up and say, "Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie". If ya wanna come here to work. Fine. Do it legally and through the proper channels. If ya wanna live here, fine. Enter the country properly and with the right documentation--unforged, preferably. But don't jump the borders and expect this tax paying citizen to like it, esp. when your kids are getting free public education, better health care for free than I get (see info on The Healthy Kids grant) and have to PAY for, etc. etc. etc. We treat the illegals better than we treat our own citizens, and don't even get me started about how badly we treat our Vets of War.

I agree that there are qutie a few illegals that do come over here looking for a free handout, but there a plenty more of American citizens looking for a free handout. Its not about stoping the illegals its more about fixing the system that alows the free handouts. ie heathcare, public education, welfare, ect.

[TomAz]

I agree that there are qutie a few illegals that do come over here looking for a free handout, but there a plenty more of American citizens looking for a free handout. Its not about stoping the illegals its more about fixing the system that alows the free handouts. ie heathcare, public education, welfare, ect.

In my experience the immigrants come looking for work. They often use fake Social Security numbers which means they are paying Social Security taxes but will never be able to collect any payemtns. That doesn't sound like a 'handout' to me.

[RODGERRAMJET]

In my experience the immigrants come looking for work. They often use fake Social Security numbers which means they are paying Social Security taxes but will never be able to collect any payemtns. That doesn't sound like a 'handout' to me.

Once again, breaking the law. And that's okay?

[TomAz]

Once again, breaking the law. And that's okay?

The law needs fixing.

[J~$$$]

In my experience the immigrants come looking for work. They often use fake Social Security numbers which means they are paying Social Security taxes but will never be able to collect any payemtns. That doesn't sound like a 'handout' to me.

I work with Mexicans I see mostly the good but I see the bad too....the guys you hire that 2 weeks later try to claim workmans comp. on all 3 of the different companies they currently work for. The Hispanic families that have plenty of money yet still go to the food bank and clothes drives to get free stuff. The families that go to hospitals and claim the dont have a job so they dont have to pay medical bills. This is more an issue of working a broken welfare system, than an illegal immigrant issue. Trust me there are plenty of american citizens that try to work over the system too, and they are pissed because they have to jump through more hoops to obtain the handouts.

[All That I Am]

I'm Mexican and I'm completely down with this idea. Lets get all those boat people and all their descendants who came over here from england and send them back to where they came from.

This is America, if you're gonna speak english go back to England!

[vinylmartyr]

We have to do something about illegal immigration but i'm not going to any rally.
Its hard to find an affordable apartment in LA because illegals move in and some become the landlords and they only rent to other illegals. Thats only one of the issues. I fell very strongly about this. It has to be fixed. Its not just Mexicans. Try renting an apartment in Chinatown in LA.

[TomAz]

We have to do something about illegal immigration but i'm not going to any rally.
Its hard to find an affordable apartment in LA because illegals move in and some become the landlords and they only rent to other illegals. Thats only one of the issues. I fell very strongly about this. It has to be fixed. Its not just Mexicans. Try renting an apartment in Chinatown in LA.

but is that an illegal immigration issue or is that an issue of racial preference in housing? they are two separate issues.